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    • Kermit56

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      Right now, Florida has reached another good benchmark: COVID deaths have remained in the single digits

      https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/local/2021/04/11/florida-reports-7-resident-deaths-5-520-new-cases-7-2-million-vaccinated/7181745002/

      –For the first time in almost seven months, the state of Florida reported only a single-digit increase in new reported deaths linked to the coronavirus pandemic.

      –The state health department said seven more Floridians and two additional non-residents have died due to COVID-19.

      –Just five new coronavirus deaths in Florida were reported Sept. 28.

      –Because Floridians aged 16 and older were eligible to access the vaccine without a doctor’s note or certain occupation on April 5, as of Sunday almost 1 million more people had received a shot of either the Pfizer, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines.

      Some posters have been complaining about DeSantis’ vaccine rollout. Apparently, with nothing to back up that opinion other than…what?

    • FireLicht2020

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      Good news in spite of him being a POS

      • jbear

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        Why is he a piece of shit, liberal who lives in Oregon?

        Some suggestions:

        Floridians are allowed outside?

        Florida Seniors didn’t get locked in death traps to die like they did in the good blue states?

        Florida’s economy is booming?

        He let a grocery store chain (A corporation) distribute some of the vaccine?

        Ohhh I know… I heard this one the other day and is an actual left wing argument. Desantis is a POS because he prioritized the vaccine go first to the weakest and most vulnerable among us above teachers. You douchebags are freaking hilarious.

        And I forgot all about the very terrible…. Florida kids have been in school since last August!

        It’s just ridiculous how you parrot the left wing talking points memo without seeming to know that’s what you’re doing.

        I live in Florida and I deal with a large number of people, many of whom are transplants from blue states and the overwhelming majority of those people….. fuck it…. almost all people I’ve spoken to this year…. hundreds and hundreds of people. I can’t even remember one person who told me they’d rather have been in any other state during this pandemic.

        Fire Just STFU and get back in your basement like all the really good people.

    • Anonymous

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      Trumpers always include the imaginary Greek chorus

      “Some posters have been . .(complaining about eh vaccine rollout)”

      This poster has correctly said DeSantis seems to be caught up in a pay to play scheme relating to the vaccine rollout

      not sure how that relates to this, but any goods news is good. If it makes you want to chirp, maybe that is telling?

    • Kermit56

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      The fact you can’t acknowledge good news without caveats, perhaps that is telling?

    • Biggs3535

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      Trumpers always include the imaginary Greek chorus

      “Some posters have been . .(complaining about eh vaccine rollout)”

      I can always count on this particular piece of shit’s lack of self-awareness to give me a good chuckle.

    • Anonymous

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      The fact you can’t acknowledge good news without caveats, perhaps that is telling?

      Kermit

      My post says “good news is good”

      You are so INSECURE about DeSantis that you started a thread that says “DeSantis KEEPS WINNING .. . “keeps winning” . . . when he is literally under fire for multiple acts of corruption INCLUDING HIDING ACTUAL CV19 numbers, no less

      maybe dont try so hard? DeSantis is probably both good and bad, right? Like most people.

    • Anonymous

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      Kermit, you got the Biggs blessing BWAHAHAHA

      maybe he could teach you about the Voting Rights Act while calling Fire a baby for “never admitting he’s wrong.”

      at this point, maybe KKKChron is the most sane of all of us :-)

    • jbear

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      The fact you can’t acknowledge good news without caveats, perhaps that is telling?

      Kermit

      My post says “good news is good”

      You are so INSECURE about DeSantis that you started a thread that says “DeSantis KEEPS WINNING .. . “keeps winning” . . . when he is literally under fire for multiple acts of corruption INCLUDING HIDING ACTUAL CV19 numbers, no less

      maybe dont try so hard? DeSantis is probably both good and bad, right? Like most people.

      You got that talking points memo I see. It’s a coordinated attack which you are right on the cutting edge of every time all the while feigning objectivity and independence.

      Last I heard you also don’t live in Florida.

      I live in Florida and I deal with a large number of people, many of whom are transplants from blue states and the overwhelming majority of those people….. fuck it…. almost all people I’ve spoken to this year…. hundreds and hundreds of people. I can’t even remember one person who told me they’d rather have been in any other state during this pandemic.

      Yes I just quoted myself.

      But I still haven’t met one single person who wishes they had been in New York through all of this. That’s why it’s so crucial that the DNC get all their foot soldiers, er… pretend Republicans in line on this quickly. I believe Fire doesn’t even know he’s regurgitating DNC attack plan alpha but you on the other hand have spent way to much time pretending to be objective for me to believe that you don’t understand exactly what you’re doing.

      • Kermit56

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        @jbear–regarding the talking points memo, leftists just throw darts at a list of words and phrases based in critical theory and then put them into a sentence. Then, their useful lemmings parrot everything as if its all true. And the mouth breathers and low info voters clap like the trained circus seals they are.

        I’m still trying to figure out if Karma is a useful lemming, or a mouth breather/circus seal.

    • jbear

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      Scared as you all are of Trump you love this dichotomy where everyone against you is a Q supporter that you get to keep using so long as Trump is the guy. So anybody who isn’t the orange man and could become popular or seem reasonable must be kneecapped. And whadaya know you and 60 minutes were right on time.

      But what’s really interesting is that you spent the last 4 years pretending that you were really a Republican trapped into voting for Democrats because of Trump yet when you’re presented with an opportunity to potentially shed the party of Trump you kick it in the teeth.

      Don’t you think that’s interesting Alice?

    • Anonymous

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      I believe Fire doesn’t even know he’s regurgitating DNC attack plan alpha but you on the other hand have spent way to much time pretending to be objective for me to believe that you don’t understand exactly what you’re doing.

      One Truth



      @JBear
      this comment has to be a lie — ” I can’t even remember one person who told me they’d rather have been in any other state during this pandemic.”

      One very simple example. For political reasons — and ONLY political reasons – Florida took away the most common choice for school IN OTHER STATES which was a hybrid approach. Florida said “choose now and its final, remote or brick and mortar.” LOCAL (you’re a small govt guy, right?) LOCAL school districts even sued and Florida retaliated by threatening their budgets.

      Like I said, I chalk it up to trolling, but maybe you are just misinformed BUT That one difference ALONE is why many parents would have preferred many other red and blue states over Florida

      • jbear

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        You are consistent I give you that. Still on the truth and lies shtick I see.

        The local school district where I live still has kids who are remotely learning and even still has teachers teaching from home.

        I actually know a teacher who is teaching from home. We can all guess the political leanings of those parents and teachers but so what I guess.

        Once again it seems like the lie isn’t coming from where you think it is.

    • Anonymous

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      So anybody who isn’t the orange man and could become popular or seem reasonable must be kneecapped.

      One Truth ^^^^

      its not that DeSantis was actually caught in a “pay to play” lie, its a “vast conspiracy involcing everyone from CNN to the Cove

      My apologies, One Truth. Probably unfair to compare :-)

      • jbear

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        This is about as true as that time when some people said Hunters laptop was evidence that Joe Biden may have known that his son was leveraging access to him into millions of dollars for cocaine and hookers.

        The pay for play story is a proven lie in exactly the same way you claimed the laptop story was. The main difference is that the laptop story was suppressed while you’re still allowed to keep spreading a lie.

    • Anonymous

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      You are consistent I give you that. Still on the truth and lies shtick I see.

      The local school district where I live still has kids who are remotely learning and even still has teachers teaching from home.

      I actually know a teacher who is teaching from home. We can all guess the political leanings of those parents and teachers but so what I guess.

      Once again it seems like the lie isn’t coming from where you think it is.

      It’s a fact – absolute fact – they Florida stands out as state that denied parents the delayed hybrid approach.

      In a move that was completely inconsistent with conservative views about a FEDERAL Dept of Ed and prior claims about local control of schools, Florida Education comm overruled local school boards

      That’s a fact. Not an opinion. Look it up. Don’t just cry because it obliterated your point 😂

    • Anonymous

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      The pay for play story is a proven lie

      Lol

      https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/vaccines/fl-ne-ocean-reef-baptist-health-vaccines-ss-prem-20210306-6sbx345w5jdqbijbyhy24c4iku-story.html?outputType=amp

      It’s like you live in an alternate universe

      😂

      At least you admit you were duped on Hunter

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    • FireLicht2020

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      Notice how jbear soundsike Gaetz?

      I’ve talking to hundreds of thousands of people walking the the streets and they all say Oregon is for losers.

      Speaking of Gaetz, you seem to have selective posts on topics…

      Huh… strange

    • DCGoth

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      For the first time in almost seven months, the state of Florida reported only a single-digit increase in new reported deaths linked to the coronavirus pandemic.

      😂

      Yeah, with all of this winning, I’m just going fucking head over heals for the fact that people are dying slightly slower here for the first time in seven months.

      I wonder if DeSenseless will have all of the deceased vote Republican. He is just the sleaze that I could see trying to pull that shit off.

      Hopefully that dude will be picking lettuce again in two years.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

    • Anonymous

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      It’s the tribal mentality that creates all the problems in politics

      “I am for ‘x’ and he says he is for ‘x’ so I am going to blindly defend everything else he does, no matter how bad… because he says he is for ‘x’”

      “I am for “x” and Fox News says he is NOT so I hate him. (He proposes a plan that FoxNews previously applauded…. crickets) “because he’s secretly a socialist, according to Tucker Carlson”

    • Kermit56

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      Proven lie? How’s your reading comprehension? From the article you offered up as proof:

      Meredith Beatrice, spokeswoman for DeSantis, responded: “The Governor’s office statement from yesterday still stands, which is: This was not a state supported senior community vaccination site, nor was it requested by the Governor.”

      Jason Mahon, spokesman for the Florida Department of Health and Florida Emergency Management Division, said in an email, “To be clear, neither the Division of Emergency Management nor the Department of Health ever directed Baptist Health to open a POD [point of dispensing] in Ocean Reef. Any statement to the contrary is false. From the beginning the state has sent the COVID-19 vaccine to support hospitals in their efforts to vaccinate the most vulnerable. We will continue to do so.”

    • Anonymous

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      @jbear–regarding the talking points memo, leftists just throw darts at a list of words and phrases based in critical theory and then put them into a sentence. Then, their useful lemmings parrot everything as if its all true. And the mouth breathers and low info voters clap like the trained circus seals they are.

      I’m still trying to figure out if Karma is a useful lemming, or a mouth breather/circus seal.

      Lol

    • Anonymous

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      Proven lie? How’s your reading comprehension? From the article you offered up as proof:

      Meredith Beatrice, spokeswoman for DeSantis, responded: “The Governor’s office statement from yesterday still stands, which is: This was not a state supported senior community vaccination site, nor was it requested by the Governor.”

      Jason Mahon, spokesman for the Florida Department of Health and Florida Emergency Management Division, said in an email, “To be clear, neither the Division of Emergency Management nor the Department of Health ever directed Baptist Health to open a POD [point of dispensing] in Ocean Reef. Any statement to the contrary is false. From the beginning the state has sent the COVID-19 vaccine to support hospitals in their efforts to vaccinate the most vulnerable. We will continue to do so.”

      Come on man. You’re the door who also parroted DNI Radcliff’s BS

      Read DeSantis statement, contradicted by the people on the ground. He gives people like you cover up he willfully obtuse, but the lie is obvious

      Tribal

      • jbear

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        Ohhhhh it’s obviously a lie. Obviously! lol

        You really don’t hear yourselves do you?

        I don’t think you gave any passes when posters pointed out that the state of NY was obviously lying about the nursing home death toll. I could go on and on.

        You on a daily basis find “obvious lies” where it suits your little narrative and look the other way when it doesn’t. That is also obvious to any person with a few dozen neurons firing.

        Well it’s obvious that Desantis is lying when I have zero evidence of it. It’s just obvious duh.

        Your story is a proven lie. For it to not be a lie there would have to be proof which if you had we’d know about.

    • Anonymous

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      We have 4 years of Trumpers parroting complete disinformation and a Kermit says it’s a liberal thing lol

      You guys (Trumpers) would be hard press to find one Trump/Fox story that didn’t turn out to be a complete con. Lol. Lie after lie about Russia, Ukraine, money raised, Mexico to pay for wall , Flynn framed.

      Collectively it’s like watching people give quarters to the basketball hoop guy at the state fair while simultaneously telling all thousands Le who pass by that they are the fools fit not trying to win the big pink octopus

    • Anonymous

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      The big pink octopus

    • FireLicht2020

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      Call your enemy that which you are

    • Biggs3535

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      Call your enemy that which you are

      Good call, Mr. Mayor:

      Good news in spite of him being a POS

    • DCGoth

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      But I still haven’t met one single person who wishes they had been in New York through all of this.

      FWIW, I, sadly, DO live in Floriduh, and I would rather be in any fucking place than here, providing its outside the Confederacy.

      I’ve had it with the cousin-fuckers and inbreds down here that comprise the masses and amplify the need for some semblance of intelligence lacking in this shithole sometimes confused as a state. I would take an apartment in the UAE over this place any day of the week.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

      • jbear

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        Well jesus DC you’re a socialist so you don’t count.

        Besides that you’re clearly in the minority…. obviously. It also begs the question why do you live here anyway. I know about the goth stuff so you’re probably a masochist. To each their own I say.

        I love Florida. I love it even more since I’ve been allowed to live my life this last year. My kids are in school, I had the right to get my defective J&J shot that will still probably kill me in the next few days…. thanks a lot Joe! You asshole.

        Life is good.

    • Charles

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      desantis is human garbage and a trump wannabe.

      Good luck running him for president as Trump JR.

      Good lord it will be a massacre

      • jbear

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        Look Charles. Everybody knows that progressives and socialists hate Ron Desantis.

    • Anonymous

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      Look Charles. Everybody knows that progressives and socialists hate Ron Desantis.

      Progressives, socialists and honest, non-tribal people

      • jbear

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        Is this another one of those facts you keep spouting off about?

        Facts according to Karma. Only 40 percent of Floridians are honest.

    • DCGoth

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      Well jesus DC you’re a socialist so you don’t count.

      Besides that you’re clearly in the minority…. obviously. It also begs the question why do you live here anyway. I know about the goth stuff so you’re probably a masochist. To each their own I say.

      I love Florida. I love it even more since I’ve been allowed to live my life this last year. My kids are in school, I had the right to get my defective J&J shot that will still probably kill me in the next few days…. thanks a lot Joe! You asshole.

      Life is good.

      Lots to unpack here. I’ll take it Point by point. 😎

      First, Thank You. I’ve never felt worthy of deification; however, I’ll take the “Jesus D.C.” thing, provided I don’t have to walk on water. (I could actually do that, but I would have to drive to Lake Erie. 😊)

      True, I’m a Socialist; however, considering I’m here, it’s pretty much the equivalent of being a Republican in D.C. or Maryland. Also, in the minority thing, I grew up in D.C., where is pasty white folk are in the minority. Add in the Goth part, and In almost translucent. I try to avoid the Evil Day Star, and exist nocturnally. 🦇 😎

      Seriously though, I may be a Socialist; however, I have no belief that the US will ever reach anything even remotely resembling Socialism. Some peeps are still pissed about Social Security and Medicare, despite the fact that older folk, primarily due to inflationary increases, earned very little by today’s standards and their benefits limit them to earning just enough to eat (cheap) cat food, and being ignored by the majority of quality doctors, as they don’t want to deal with CMS. (The doctors, I mean.)

      Why I live here? I’m still asking myself that. 😎 TBH, I could’ve moved to San Diego for the same price. (So, in part, my stupidity).

      I’ll give you the short version of why I moved here.

      First, my insanely overpriced condo needed a re-fi, which would’ve been a no-brainer, had the bottom not fallen out of the banking industry under W. (I had a five year ARM, which made perfect sense, until the banks went south and for a good bit, and before the bail-out, mortgages were as rare as finding a Virgin on a college campus. 😎) As a result, I sold before the market collapsed and chose here over San Diego five the reasons, among others. 1.) Close Family friends from D.C., all pro-Castro Cubans moved here, so I knew some people from home. 2.) After I left television, I could’ve signed on with CNN or CBN in D.C.; however, I was kind I of tired of always writing things with a certain spin. (That exists in all networks, regardless of politics.) I also could’ve gone with Al Jazeera, but wasn’t keen on living in Dubai, and I was offered a position working on video editing for the Redskins, which witches been cool to travel with the team and sit in the sidelines each Sunday, except Dan Snyder is such a fucking tool, I just couldn’t do that, since the position would’ve required me to spend each day both in Redskin Park, (Northern Virginia), and FedEx Field, (Largo, Maryland). Considering D.C. traffic, that stone equates to driving daily from Tampa to Daytona and back each day. Shorter distance, but insane traffic that you have to experience to understand. D.C. traffic makes Los Angeles traffic look like driving along a stretch of desert. Also, 3.) Tanks used to have a large Goth scene and home to FetishCon. Since I did professional photography, It felt like a good idea. I was wrong. Tampa is not a place to shoot professionally, and all of my gigs always brought me back to D.C., New Work or Los Angeles. Down here, “professional” photography means you charge to do weddings. You could not pay me to shoot a wedding. (I can give you a link to my ModelMayhem page, which shows a bit of my work.) So, originally, for the first five it six years I was here, I would spend three weeks here, and fly back to D.C. for a week or two out of each month. Occasionally, I would also go to NYC or LA. Considering I haven’t flown anything other than first class in roughly thirty years, at least I racked up a shit ton of miles. I would also go to the EU a couple times each year. So, I was here, but never for too long before I was travelling again.

      Additionally, there was one other consideration. I was transitioning to film from television, and I refused to do any more ghost writing. Yeah, it pays well; however, I was tired of doing the work for someone else to take the credit. Also, you can write from anywhere, and I was on the road a lot. My first two films were shot in the EU, which gave me my IMDb credits. That said, I had to focus more on writing to a US audience. The photography covered most of the extra financial costs and since I have no desire to write “mainstream” shit, like the current nominees for the Oscars, I’m never gonna get rich in film, unless I luck out and sell a script on spec, in which case, I would most likely have to hand over the film to someone else. (One fun fact on film: It really distant matter which studio buys into a film. It’s all about the distribution rights. That’s where the money comes in. You should sign up for a free month if IMDb Pro. That will give you a peek behind the curtains as to the process of bringing a film to the masses. You can also get some fun info on who’s repped by who, and phone and address contacts of pretty much anyone. Unless you’re in film, though, I would suggest cancelling before your free period expires.) So, that’s pretty much the “Why” part of the equation.

      One added note: up until just before 2012, I was engaged and we were weeks, or so away from moving to Los Angeles. We started living together when she was twenty and I guess I would’ve been about forty-seven? At any rate, we’d been together for almost five years. That fell apart when my ex had both of her parents pass away in roughly just over a year of each other. I kept trying to get her to move anywhere but here; however, she procrastinated, and I had to enroll my daughter in sixth grade here, as she kept putting off deciding where to move, always nixing my ideas. As a result, I was faced with the decision of leaving the state just as my ex was arriving with her son and our daughter. I had to decide between being a parent to my eleven year-old daughter, who has spent very little time with me in the picture, or dashing off to L.A. and getting married to my fiancé. Well, as much as I hate Florida, had I chosen not to attempt to be a responsible parent to my daughter, I would’ve been a major douche, even by my standards. Ultimately, here I still am, despite the fact that a I hate heat and humidity and can barely find anyone that can carry on a coherent conversation for longer than five minutes. Also, yeah, my daughter, having had little interaction with me since not long after birth, as I sound most of the previous decade outside of the US, it took a number of years for my daughter to not hate me, not that I could blame her. Kids don’t understand that you’re always gone so you can earn a living to support them. They just want their parents around. I still had to pay out roughly $2,000 each month in Child Support. I also had to get her to school and back each day, so my ex could work. So, in short, I had to make amends for ten years as an asshole, out of touch, self-absorbed idiot. Also, I’ve never really been good with kids. I wasn’t even good with kids when I was a kid, as I could never relate. Even at five, I felt more comfortable in conversations with adults. As such, my parenting skills were shit, and I had to learn fast. Oh well, enough of that.

      In the Goth issue, I feel compelled to mention a couple things. First, since I’m in that Boomer / Gen X crossover, I’ve always been Gen X. As a store, I was in the Goth scene before it was called Goth. In the late 70s, there was a spin-off from the punk scene, to a sub—genre referred to originally as Post-Punk, which I felt odd about, as Punk Rock was in its prime then. So, there is one thing I honestly want you to consider. Like anything else, you can’t lump all Goths into the same mould, except for the fact that we all seem to have the ability to laugh at ourselves. Within the Goth culture, we are as diverse as the mundanes. You will find liberals, conservatives, gun Nuts, and pacifists, and both gay and straight. Also, there are Christians, Jews, Atheists, and Wiccans. We don’t really judge the characteristics of others. (Although, with sense of humour, we’re all a bit touched. In Springfield, Virginia, there used to be a club that was half Country, filled with rednecks, had a buffer zone, complete with Mechanical Bull, ugh, and then a Disco Bar in the other side of the building, filled with nancy boys and bimbettes. The place was always packed. A friend of mine, for some reason unknown to me wanted to sound her twenty-fifth birthday going to this place, but fully, over the top, Goth’ed out. I figured, what the fuck. It wax her birthday, so I tagged along. The girls were in standard Goth outfits, featuring lots of black latex and lace. I can’t remember what the order guys wore. I was in the standard Black, eight eye Docs, although, I may have been wearing my glitter Docs, black pants, and a black T-Shirt that read “Smoke Crack and Worship Satan. (FWIW, I do neither.) It was pretty funny. People would intentionally give us a wide berth, and while the Men’s Room was filled with Rednecks in cowboy hats, I would be re-applying my eyeliner, (always use liquid), and adding additional black lipstick. A few times at the crowded bar, more than a couple people, while being polite, told me that they were actually afraid of me. First impressions can be so wrong. At any rate, it was a fun night, but the music was shit. 😎) Other than a style of dress, an enjoyment of a different type of music, and not being very judgmental, we’re as diverse a crowd as you would see anywhere. The only real difference is that most cities tend to have more age disparity with it comes to dating and marriage. I World even be willing to bet that I could take anyone in this board into a Goth Club and they would have fun. The primary differences really are simply a different style of dress, a different taste in music, and across the political spectrum, we don’t really judge what others think. Well excited our own opinions, but like I mentioned, our politics and actions are not a monolith of conformity to one set of beliefs. Congress should try to follow our lead. 😊

      One final mention. I would be willing to bet that you’ve never actually heard real Goth or Industrial music. It is not mainstream, and never gets airplay. I used to run my own radio station that could be picked up in TiVo, iTunes, and a few streaming services, which I started running in the 90s. FWIW, Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails are neither Goth nor Industrial. They are both mainstream. As mentioned, real Goth fires not get airplay. The closest bands you would possibly know are The Sisters of Mercy or Siouxsie and the Banshees. With Industrial, I honestly can’t think of anyone you would be familiar with.

      As I’ve mentioned in the past, I’m an open book and do not hide behind anonymity. My identity is very transparent to anywhere I have a presence, and I’m not really bothered by that. I’ve got nothing to hide, and as mentioned, I’ve posted links to my published writing here, as well as my IMDb Profile being in my Bio page.

      I would implore you to do one thing, though, and grant me roughly ten minutes of your time. I’m going to post three YouTubes. One a Goth band I know, but being a Beatles concert, it’sa fun song and a cool video. The band looks just like they do when they are hanging in a bar. The second is a Goth song that I find enjoyable. It’s about a person lamenting that they are trying to resolve guilt with relation to personal loss. The last is an Industrial song. Like Industrial should, it sounds angry, yet deals, in some way with an existential answer as to why we, as humans, roam the planet.

      All in all, they’re about three minutes each. For one, it will give you a brief glimpse into the scene, and it will also give you some exposure to the diversity of the music. While it’s barely the tip of the iceberg, I would love to hear your thoughts, and as always, will respect your opinion. Hopefully you will find the nine minutes insightful and hopefully slightly entertaining. On the final, Industrial post, I’ll try to find a YouTube with lyrics. Industrial can be difficult to catch all of the lyrics.

      I look forward to your opinion. Also, if anyone rise wants to voice an opinion, the more the better. (Maybe I’ll fly one of the bands down for a cookout. 😊 🦇

      Oh, I’m certain there are typos here. 😎

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

    • Anonymous

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      Is this another one of those facts you keep spouting off about?

      Facts according to Karma. Only 40 percent of Floridians are honest.

      How many are tribal?

      Man, hopefully you got some rest snd a cookie

    • DCGoth

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      @JBear

      Here is the first. Oh, I hope the vac works out. The limited reactions have all been in women. I got the Pfizer vaccine, primarily due to my age.

      At any rate, here is video one of three.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

      • jbear

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        I actually like it.

        In a different life I probably could have gone that way at least a little bit. I have a soft spot for dark and reflective music. I went through a black phase in Jr High but dropped it when I got to high school and figured out that I could be pretty good a sports.

        I don’t know if Depeche Mode counts as Goth but Violator is one of my all time favorite albums.

    • Anonymous

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      Right there is talk now of pausing J&J only in that “young woman” demo band

    • DCGoth

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      @JBear

      Next up. The lyrics are Key.

      As mentioned, but a bit clearer, this song is about a son attempting to rationalise the irrational as pertaining to the suicide of his father.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

    • DCGoth

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      Right there is talk now of pausing J&J only in that “young woman” demo band

      I could see that. Every affected individual is a female primarily prior to menopause, so younger. Also, iirc, it’s only occurred six times out of all of the vaccines administered, so it’s more likely you would become infected with Ebola.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

    • DCGoth

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      This is harder and angrier, as it’s Industrial. I’ll find one with lyrics, hopefully. 😎

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

      • jbear

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        This one’s not really my cup of tea. the second one was fine. I don’t think my wife or kids…. maybe the 4 year old… she’s still pretty malleable and likes stuff she thinks I like much to my wife’s chagrin.

        She sings most of the lines to Cherub Rock which is not really a singing type song but it beats the hell outa the frozen two sountrack for the thousandth time through. haha.

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      Been waiting to see Sisters of Mercy live since the 80s.

      Shriekback Nemesis is my Goth anthem.

      The Castle used to be a weekly thing for me….long time ago.

    • DCGoth

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      OK, I would be remiss if a I didn’t do one Sisters of Mercy song. This would be Goth. For more Install, I would suggest Ministry. They are actually in TiuchTunes.

      Without further hesitation:

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

      • jbear

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        I was actually given a ministry CD many many years ago and played it a bit. I think I mostly liked it.

        It’s interesting the different eras and styles of rock music. I’d say I like this type more than I liked the hair bands which I was never into….. Guns n roses, twisted siter. nah.

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      Been waiting to see Sisters of Mercy live since the 80s.

      Shriekback Nemesis is my Goth anthem.

      The Castle used to be a weekly thing for me….long time ago.

      River running through the bar

    • DCGoth

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      Been waiting to see Sisters of Mercy live since the 80s.

      Shriekback Nemesis is my Goth anthem.

      The Castle used to be a weekly thing for me….long time ago.

      Most cool. I just posted one of their vids. I ALMOST saw them live. I was a The Capital Ballroom, I’m not certain if the name had churned to Nation yet. (I’m pretty certain it was torn down Go build the baseball stadium.)

      As we were standing in line to go in, mid-1990s, they announced that Sisters is Mercy cancelled. I think it was at the end if their tour and his voice just wasn’t up to snuff. As a result, tickets were refunded and we were let in at no charge and two other bands played in their place. I kept my unused ticket. Overall, it was a good night, but I really wish I would’ve seen them.

      They only ever refused three albums, but in concert they would do simply insane covers. They did everything from The Grateful Dead to Bob Dylan, and anything in-between. I’m pretty certain I have their complete discography, complete with covers.

      My last live concert in the Goth / Industrial scene was backstage for Combichrist, Ego Likeness, who I know personally, and another band whose name escapes me. That was a great show.

      Cruxshadows is also awesome.

      I used to go to The Castle with I first moved here. I’d love to go back. It’s been a while.

      Oh, fun note: For a while, I was dating a girl who would play live with Ministry when they toured the East Coast. She played theremin. Not many people play that, so I guess there wasn’t many people to edge her out of the lineup. 😎

      (I took her to see The Cure with me one night, and she met me after meeting up with Ministry for lunch. She was spray decked out in concert gear with she arrived at a local pub where I met her. Her outfit included a black leather thong, fishnets and twenty-eye Dics, and an insanely diaphanous black lace jacket / robe / whatever one would call ac see through black fabric shirt—type garment. When she walked in, the clear went silent. Without asking her any questions, the bartender just pointed to where I was during, after he regained consciousness. 😎

      Getting old sucks. I was only in my early forties back then.

      Anyone local should meet up at the Castle one night. I think it’s still open. I took a friend there once, as he’d never experienced a Goth Club. He went in jeans and a white t-shirt. Talk about standing out. 😊 all was good, though and he loved the venue.

      Like I told JBear, we’re a diverse group that really has to be experienced to understand.

      One of these years, I want to go on the Goth Cruise. I know some people that go each year.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

    • DCGoth

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      River running through the bar

      Yeah, it really is a cool venue / club.

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

    • DCGoth

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      @JBear,

      I was round my response and lost it. I’ll have to try again. I’ve been afk for a couple days. (Sinus infection).

      I’d rather have a beer bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


       

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