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    • KarmaPolice

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      DeSantis clearly sees himself running in 2024, either as a replacement for Trump or as a VP. He is trying to be the Trumpiest of all candidates and part of that is the totally despicable and completely un-American practice of distributing vaccine to big donors. Swampy swamp swamp..

      there are examples from Bradenton and other places, but this is the latest and ultra rich GOP enclave in the Keys known as “Ocean Reef”:

      “In fact, the only people from Key Largo who gave to DeSantis’ political committee live in Ocean Reef. All 17 of them had given the governor contributions of $5,000 each through December 2020, according to the Florida Division of Elections.

      But on Feb. 25, one resident of Ocean Reef, Bruce Rauner, the former Republican governor of Illinois and former chairman of the Chicago-based private equity firm, GTCR, increased his contribution and wrote a $250,000 check.

      Since DeSantis started using the state’s vaccine initiative to steer special pop-up vaccinations to select communities, his political committee has raised $2.7 million in the month of February alone, more than any other month since he first ran for governor in 2018, records show.”

      the idea that a political leader would use THE DISTRIBUTION a life saving vaccine to raise a war chest for office is not much different than Trump withholding military aid from Ukraine

      crazy and straight up immoral

    • Roy

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      He won’t be a “replacement” for Trump, because if that was the case DeSantis would make his own decisions. If DeSantis gets elected President, his only decision he’ll get to make is what to have for dinner. Trump will make all the major decisions.

      • Kermit56

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        How disingenuous of Karma. It appears a hospital determined the distribution of the vaccines…

        The Keys Weekly Newspaper reported on Jan. 21 that Baptist Health South Florida had offered vaccines to senior Ocean Reef residents, in a story that focused on the frustration of other area seniors in trying to get shots.

        A spokeswoman for Monroe County said that like all early vaccines, the doses received by Baptist Health were allocated to the hospital group by the state because it met the state’s criteria, and the hospital then decided how to distribute them.

      • KarmaPolice

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        Yep

        It was Kermit

        “How disingenuous…”

        :-)

    • FireLicht2020

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      I love that Republicans, during the home stretch of a pandemic, want to jump the gun and open things back up too soon.

      Texans shouldn’t be allowed to leave their state if they want to be irresponsible… same with any state.

      Things are looking better, so let’s just say fuck it.

      Idiots

    • KarmaPolice

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      disingenuous? Need a dictionary?

      more importantly though . . read closely:

      “there are examples from Bradenton and other places,”

      In other words, Ocean Reef club was the example in the news that day. It may turn out to be coincidence. the pop ups (“Bradenton and other place”) are not

      • Kermit56

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        dis·in·gen·u·ous
        /ˌdisənˈjenyo͞oəs/
        adjective
        not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.
        “he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical”

        Yeah, that about sums up most of your posts.

    • KarmaPolice

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      for clarity, this is Ocean Reef Club example (the timing):

      “DeSantis himself is a resident of the gated enclave in the Florida Keys, as is Bruce Rauner, the former Republican governor of Illinois, who cut DeSantis a check for $250,000 last month, one week after he turned 65, the minimum age at the time for a vaccination in Florida.

      Before Ocean Reef began vaccinating its residents, a political committee for DeSantis received 17 donations from Key Largo by December 2020, according to campaign-finance records reviewed by the Herald. All 17 are residents of Ocean Reef.

      more to come on this story for sure because “Baptist Health” is the “hospital” that DeSantis says controlled the plan. Baptist health is a chain of several hospitals, INCLUDING TWO ACTUAL HOSPITALS FURTHER DOWN THE KEYS and in Miami-Dade . . so the question will be how did a tiny (but very wealthy ) community where DeSantis has a home get the vaccinations from Baptist health when obviously they vaccinate more of the 65+ population by going to either of their to actual hospitals in the Keys or Miami Dade?

      THIS IS THE LARGER STORY THOUGH

      ““First we saw it in Sarasota County: $125,000 campaign donation, pop-up site,” she said. “We also saw it in Charlotte County: $50,000 campaign donation, pop-up site.”

      A third site to vaccinate residents against Covid-19 popped up in Manatee County. All three of the selected communities were developed by Pat Neal, a Republican fundraiser who contributed $125,000 to DeSantis in 2018 and 2019.”

    • KarmaPolice

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      “up most of your posts.”

      Take it youre a Trump supporter

      pfft

      • Kermit56

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        Dude, Trump was the best thing to happen to USA after 8 years of Obama.

      • KarmaPolice

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        Obama …

        HRC reference can’t be far off.

        About DeSantis….

      • Kermit56

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        I’m proud to have DeSantis as governor of Florida. I am specifically proud of his efforts to clean up Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades. He has also committed funds to fight Red Tide, which no other Florida governor has done.

        The brouhaha about cronyism for vaccines was brought about by Fried. It has been explained a number of times but people of your ilk and that of Fried’s are trying to stir up something where nothing exists.

        The vaccines are prioritized to the elderly…no matter where they live. If they happen to live in an affluent area the state is not going to deny them the vaccines just because of optics. It’s that sample.

        I’ll let you have the last word.

      • KarmaPolice

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        “I am specifically proud of his efforts to clean up Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades”

        so am I

        “The brouhaha about cronyism for vaccines was brought about by Fried. It has been explained a number of times but people of your ilk and that of Fried’s are trying to stir up something where nothing exists.”

        “WHERE NOTHING EXIST?”

        As I posted before (I think you ignored that one) its actually statistically impossible to say that in the case of Bradenton/Sarasota and Lakewood Ranch

        again, I assume that’s why you keep skipping over it and now are, apparently calling it a “Dem hoax” of sorts

        Sincerely, me and “my ilk” :-)

        (PS when your defense of “vaccine cronyism” begins with other things DeSantis has done well with the everglades . . sort of a sign tat you know there’s an actual problem with “vaccine cornyism” not just Dems stirring the pot)

      • KarmaPolice

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        “I’ll let you have the last word.”

        the classic PA . . . .

    • KarmaPolice

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      Its simply undeniable — mathematically or statistically speaking — that DeSantis INTENTIONALLY set up pop up sin at least two donor locations

      all on has to do is look at the demographics in Bradenton, as one example

      if you want to say Ocean Reef Club is just a coincidence — with 17 donors in Decembers and $250K from one GOP official — that is your prerogative and it may turn out to be correct.

      May also be smoke, because the other examples are undeniably FIRE

      • Kermit56

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        Of the 15 pop-up clinics targeted to senior communities, nine were in Broward and Palm Beach counties, which are not known for being Republican strongholds, to say the least.

        So what’s your view? Seniors who voted for DeSantis should not have access to the vaccines before a group you deem more needy? Should they have access to vaccines at all?

        You’re stirring the pot, plain and simple.

      • KarmaPolice

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        So keeping in mind that your first post calls me disingenuous…

        How many posts have you made since addressing everything BUT Lakewood Ranch?

        Obama

        Everglades

        Etc etc

    • Biggs3535

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      dis·in·gen·u·ous
      /ˌdisənˈjenyo͞oəs/
      adjective
      not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.
      “he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical”

      Yeah, that about sums up most of your posts.

      That’s the nice way to put it. Problem is, that particular POS lacks any and all shame and self-awareness to see reality.

    • Roy

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      Love it. With all the Democrats in Florida, we get so little leadership. I’m voting for Fried for Governor.

      Nikki Fried

    • KarmaPolice

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      Bwahaha. DeSantis caught in a lie

      If you read the article you can see for yourself that he gave the classic “non denial denial”

      He tried to create the impression that this was all the hospital, not the state or him. That argument is repeated here by a poster.

      Ocean reef requested the vaccine. DeSantis didn’t open a pop up but the state gave the vaccine to the hospital TO GIVE TO OCEAN REEF

      Lmao

      That’s why – as posted above – it didn’t go to the two larger hospitals down the road or Miami Dade

      It’s just getting interesting

    • KarmaPolice

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      DeSantis using a FEDERAL benefit to raise campaign money

      “Governor.. FBI on line 1”

    • KarmaPolice

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    • KarmaPolice

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      Now covered by 3 different news outlets

    • KarmaPolice

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      Even if you are a hardcore DeSantis loving GOPer. You should be outraged that an elected official fupped over some citizens to help others and himself.

      If for no other reason than the shoe someday being on the other foot.

      But how about basic ethics and morality?

      It’s a vaccine for an historic deadly virus

    • FireLicht2020

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      Nah through virus just kinda magically went away months ago, as Trump predicted.

      All hail the glorious leader

    • Charles

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      Desantis is a piece of shit.

      With the state demographics shifting rapidly…the GOP is dying a slow death.

      Texas and FL will be blue in the next decade.

      White folks aren’t having children.

      Can’t wait for all the racist old people to die off. The country will be so much better off.

    • KarmaPolice

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      the story continues to develop:

      “Some of the beneficiaries had donated to the governor’s political action committee, which has garnered almost $4 million, and Baptist Health Systems president and CEO Brian Keeley and his wife own a home in Ocean Reef.”

      so millions to DeSantis from Ocean Reef residents

      one of whom runs the small hospital involved

      DeSantis is also a resident

      nothing further form DeSantis yet

    • KarmaPolice

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      The truth will set you free

    • KarmaPolice

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      Where’s that “disingenuous” definition when you need it?

      TAMPA BAY TIMES – “ DeSantis’ political fortunes a focus of Manatee vaccine event, texts show
      Text messages between a Manatee County commissioner and a developer show that DeSantis’ office asked county officials to bypass its regular selection process in favor of a handpicked list.”

      Comments encouraged?

      😁

    • KarmaPolice

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    • KarmaPolice

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      and Orlando Sentinel