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    • Runole

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      despite the media slobbering all over (his running for his life) passes that were all incomplete?
      How much will a completely new offensive line make things better?

    • Greattimes

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      Mahones is a better QB than what was shown during the Super Bowl. His offensive line was decimated by injuries and he was running on a bad foot.

      That is why Vegas bookmakers have the KC Chiefs as a favorite to win the Super Bowl next year.

    • Pennywise

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      How bad could his foot have been , he ran for 498 yards prior to throwing the ball , yes 498 yards he scrambled for

      Don’t want to hear excuses , Bucs had backup RG playing , Brady had bum knee , needed procedure at years end

    • BucBalla85

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      I think the bucs laid out some kind of recipe to defeat him. It more so relies on your pass rush to get in his face and to make sure you have his targets well covered. Easier said than done but I think some other teams will have some success too trying to replicate what the bucs did.

    • m_j

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      IMHO it just proved how great he is

    • Hockey Duckie

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      Hubris is what cost the Chiefs a chance at winning their 2nd Super Bowl. The Chiefs chose to stay with their 9-step drop and deep ball philosophy than the short game with efficiency. Brett Kollman denoted how the Chiefs changed their offense later in the season to reduce the 9-step drop to become more efficient. Yet, in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs ran the exact offense the first time around against the Bucs. Which is odd because the Bucs shut down the Chiefs in the 2nd half. This is why I say the Chiefs lost due to hubris. They never had a chance because the Bucs were expecting the explosive, yet inefficient offense from KC.

      With better OL talent, Mahomes then can have the extra moment to see the open guy or be a little bit more accurate. While some fans boast about the Bucs’ having a replacement RG, the RG play didn’t drop. In fact, it improved in the run game for the Bucs. KC missed one starter on the OLine because he stayed out due to COVID to help out his community (believe he had a nursing background). During the season, they ended losing both of their tackles. That’s three starting OL lost not playing in the Super Bowl.

      Although the Chiefs did improve their OL, it’s their DL that looked very lackluster in the Super Bowl. They got 2 QB hits (1 sack) on the Bucs’ OL. That lack of pressure produce only 1 pass defense. Compare that to the Bucs getting 10 QB hits (5 sacks) on KC’s OL. That pressure also induced 9 pass defenses.

      Right now, the KC’s have improved their OL to mitigate some of that pressure, but if they can’t consistently get to Brady, then we’re simply in a shootout. I’ll stick with the efficient Brady over the explosive, but inefficient KC offense.

    • Runole

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      Hubris is what cost the Chiefs a chance at winning their 2nd Super Bowl. The Chiefs chose to stay with their 9-step drop and deep ball philosophy than the short game with efficiency. Brett Kollman denoted how the Chiefs changed their offense later in the season to reduce the 9-step drop to become more efficient. Yet, in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs ran the exact offense the first time around against the Bucs. Which is odd because the Bucs shut down the Chiefs in the 2nd half. This is why I say the Chiefs lost due to hubris. They never had a chance because the Bucs were expecting the explosive, yet inefficient offense from KC.

      With better OL talent, Mahomes then can have the extra moment to see the open guy or be a little bit more accurate. While some fans boast about the Bucs’ having a replacement RG, the RG play didn’t drop. In fact, it improved in the run game for the Bucs. KC missed one starter on the OLine because he stayed out due to COVID to help out his community (believe he had a nursing background). During the season, they ended losing both of their tackles. That’s three starting OL lost not playing in the Super Bowl.

      Although the Chiefs did improve their OL, it’s their DL that looked very lackluster in the Super Bowl. They got 2 QB hits (1 sack) on the Bucs’ OL. That lack of pressure produce only 1 pass defense. Compare that to the Bucs getting 10 QB hits (5 sacks) on KC’s OL. That pressure also induced 9 pass defenses.

      Right now, the KC’s have improved their OL to mitigate some of that pressure, but if they can’t consistently get to Brady, then we’re simply in a shootout. I’ll stick with the efficient Brady over the explosive, but inefficient KC offense.

      So with a completely new offensive line the chiefs won’t miss a beat?

    • mjs020294

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      Sick of everyone slobbering over Mahone. He is an extraordinary talent but he isn’t going to dominate the NFL for 15 years. Defenses will adjust, he will pick up injuries and the team around him will change.

      Not so long ago Russel Wilson was the heir apparent and tipped to dominate. He has one SB win. We went though the same thing with Vick as well. Build them up too early and they rarely live up to the hype.

    • Runole

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      I think the bucs laid out some kind of recipe to defeat him. It more so relies on your pass rush to get in his face and to make sure you have his targets well covered. Easier said than done but I think some other teams will have some success too trying to replicate what the bucs did.

      agree and that will lead to more incredible throws that will often be incomplete but still will be filled with oohs and ahhs by the talking heads.

    • Runole

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      Sick of everyone slobbering over Mahone. He is an extraordinary talent but he isn’t going to dominate the NFL for 15 years. Defenses will adjust, he will pick up injuries and the team around him will change.

      Not so long ago Russel Wilson was the heir apparent and tipped to dominate. He has one SB win. We went though the same thing with Vick as well. Build them up too early and they rarely live up to the hype.

      agree The current narrative refuses to accept PM and the chiefs were stomped.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Agreed with Hockey on the hubris aspect.

      And, regarding Mahommes, he’s earned every bit of the media exposure he gets.

      He’s arguably the most dominant player at the most popular (and important) position in sports.

      As long as he stays healthy, he’ll break damn near every record there is.

    • theknees

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      Lol.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Lol.

      Yep.

      Your well-documented kiss of death has led him to playing in the AFC Championship Game all 3 seasons he’s started, 2 SB, one Lombardi, and a league-MVP and SB MVP.

      Yet, you claimed Winston was better.

      Solid stuff…

    • theknees

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      Lolz.

    • seekpar

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      The Bucs D plan did not expose Mahone…Mahones…Mahommes [sic] MAHOMES, it exposed the Chiefs’ patchwork O line. I agree with posters that some Chiefs opponents will adopt the same strategy.

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