Do Some Fans Give Licht a Bad Rap?

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  • #1275998
    Roy
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    Well he’s not getting a bad rap if you go back to 2016, four years ago. You don’t have to let him off the hook for the Aguayo pick in 2016 or the entire 2016 draft which was a disaster. But has he learned on the job since then? It seems like he has, but that doesn’t matter to some.

    A lot of emotional posters on this board don’t seem to have any desire to separate between what he has done in the past verses how capable he is now. Fine Nothing wrong with that if you are trying to grade his career. If you are asking how good of a GM is he right now, that’s another thing.

    The 2019 draft was pretty good. The 2018 was also pretty good. The fact that all 8 players have so far survived a regime change is actually pretty amazing. Before that drafts were shaky at best. But its a fact that Licht has had two good drafts in a row. Not to mention bringing in guys like Suh and Barrett. So if Licht can put together another decent draft that would make three in a row. Would you all be willing to accept that he is now a decent GM or will you still harken back to the earlier years?

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    #1276000
    jcaulfield8
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    To be fair drafting Aguerro in the third would do that to most gms in his line of work. I mean come the fuck on with that decision

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    Aguerro? In the 3rd? I know I haven’t drank today so it can’t be me.

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    You’re right. Spelling was auto correct and I got the round wrong. Def my bad

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    #1276003
    parnelldickinson
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    Some of his draft choices and at what spot they were picked and free agent choices , or lack thereof have been unacceptable. He generally is one or 2 years behind in fortifying weak position groups since his inception. He generally is 2 steps behind on the chess board,compared to majority of gm’s .

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    #1276008
    FireLicht2020
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    What is his record?

    (Hint: it isn’t good)

    You can analyze his drafts (they are mostly bad)

    You can analyze his FA and cap space manuerving (which have also been mostly bad)

    But at the end of the day it’s about wins and losses.

    Simple as that

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    #1276010
    Hockey Duckie
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    The records are the responsibilities of the head coaches, but the talent accrued is the responsibility of the GM. We are still lacking at OL, RB, both safety positions, getting long in the tooth at OLB (jpp) and DT (suh), as well as we don’t know if our CB situation is solved. This is heading into year 7 of Licht’s tenure. LoL

    Our problem is lack of talent b/c we can’t make lemonades out of lemons, with Winston being here for five of those six years.

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    #1276023
    Joey
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    I would have said no but saw a utube Video about Brady and everyone but Brady was washed out of the league in a few years from that draft so I guess that just goes to show you

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    #1276056
    JC5100
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    That’s a really bad metric to use. You have Licht over GMs that are perennially in the playoffs. You have Ryan Pace #1 when he’s been to the playoffs once in 5 years and traded up for Trubisky over Mahomes and Watson. That cost the Bears atleast one Super Bowl already.

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    #1276062
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    He’s never been to the playoffs. Losing record. Weird drafts. Survived a number 1 being a bust. Building backwards. Meh.

    And some horrific free agent signings. The only good thing you can say about Licht is that he seems to have learned from most of his mistakes. He’s getting better and not doing as stupid of things as he did 3-4 years ago.

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    #1276067
    ABuccsFan
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    That’s a really bad metric to use. You have Licht over GMs that are perennially in the playoffs. You have Ryan Pace #1 when he’s been to the playoffs once in 5 years and traded up for Trubisky over Mahomes and Watson. That cost the Bears atleast one Super Bowl already.

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    Judging a man(Ryan Pace) on one draft pick in a system that is such a crap shoot, with the biggest unknown variable of all, the human being, is just so narrow minded. With that logic, Matt Millen was a Hall of Fame executive because he drafted Calvin Johnson.

    That is also like the Winston haters who want to blame Licht for Winston never developing. We are a franchise historically starved for a franchise QB. Licht drafted the best QB of that class. A QB with all his faults is statistically the best QB the franchise has ever had. How the hell can anyone in their right mind say that was a busted pick by Licht? The pick was good, the rest is on Winston.

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    X
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    Comparing Mahomes and a trade up for Trubisky to Calvin Johnson is preposterously goofy.

    That’s a really bad metric to use. You have Licht over GMs that are perennially in the playoffs. You have Ryan Pace #1 when he’s been to the playoffs once in 5 years and traded up for Trubisky over Mahomes and Watson. That cost the Bears atleast one Super Bowl already.

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    Judging a man(Ryan Pace) on one draft pick in a system that is such a crap shoot, with the biggest unknown variable of all, the human being, is just so narrow minded. With that logic, Matt Millen was a Hall of Fame executive because he drafted Calvin Johnson.

    That is also like the Winston haters who want to blame Licht for Winston never developing. We are a franchise historically starved for a franchise QB. Licht drafted the best QB of that class. A QB with all his faults is statistically the best QB the franchise has ever had. How the hell can anyone in their right mind say that was a busted pick by Licht? The pick was good, the rest is on Winston.

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    #1276072
    DonkeyHunter
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    @roy posted:

    The 2019 draft was pretty good. The 2018 was also pretty good.

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    Wrong again.

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    #1276075
    JC5100
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    Let’s count the ways Winston was a busted pick…

    1. Suspended
    2. Benched
    3. Not re-signed
    4. No playoffs
    5. 28-42 record
    6. Led league in turnovers
    7. Turned down a massive trade package from the Eagles

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    #1276080
    BucWonder
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    He got Arians and built the roster that attracted Brady.

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    #1276082
    X
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    Arians saved Licht’s ass. No BA, we have a new GM. Licht has survived some tough years, but to say the wrath of the fans is “unfair” is pure unadulterated horse shit.

    He got Arians and built the roster that attracted Brady.

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    #1276083
    Roy
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    @roy posted:

    The 2019 draft was pretty good. The 2018 was also pretty good.

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    Wrong again.

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    Oh well that’s it then. I’m wrong again. No reason stated, but if Donkey says it it must be true. Darn.

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