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    • CoachEricTaylor

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      So, many fans think we need a QB, or at least more than just Glennon. Obviously the new regime could pluck one from the draft. However, a free agent QB is another obvious option. Per Rotoworld.com, here is a listing of potential FA QB’s. Are any of them attractive to you? If so, why and what would they provide? (just trying to cause a discussion. if it goes well, I might try this in other positions) – ranking is not mine.1. Michael Vick2. Josh McCown3. Josh Freeman4. Shaun Hill5. Chad Henne6. Tarvaris Jackson7. Colt McCoy8. Matt Flynn9. Kellen Clemens10. Luke McCown11. Derek Anderson12. David Garrard13. Dan Orlovsky14. Rex Grossman15. Curtis Painter16. Tim Tebow17. Jimmy Clausen18. Charlie Whitehurst19. Brady Quinn20. Rusty Smith

    • Anonymous

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      Not a single guy on that list is taking a team to the Throne to be Crowned. Man, the Bucs need Manziel!

    • Anonymous

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      Mine didn’t make the list, so maybe he’s no longer a free agent (though I didn’t see him re-sign). I’d like Matt Cassel because he has starting experience, is athletic and allows all options with regards to Glennon and the draft.

    • Anonymous

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      Matt Cassell is a steaming heap. Jesus no. Again, Bucs NEED to draft a QB. Period. Have to mine for gems. We don't need any more mediocrity.

    • Anonymous

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      I like Cassel because they can trade Glennon if they decide to and he can push Glennon if they keep him. Also, if they draft Manziel, Cassel can replace him after he starts out 0-3 with 10 interceptions!

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      Are you being serious right now?Wow. Matt Cassell is a turd. I want to see one more poster come out an defend this suckhole of a QB. Matt Cassell?  Seriously?Glennon has an upside. Cassell is a backside.

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      Duemig actually threw out the idea of bringing back his boy Freeman…and he was SERIOUS. smh

    • Anonymous

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      Per Roto:Matt Cassel can void the final year of his Vikings contract in February.Cassel's 2014 salary is scheduled at $3.15 million, but he has a player option that would allow Cassel to test free agency. Cassel probably wouldn't get much more than that on the market, and Minnesota gives him his best chance to start games in 2014. We suspect he'll return, though that's far from certain.

    • Anonymous

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        With JF  signing with Freeman's agent  there's no way the Bucs would take him IMHO

    • Anonymous

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      No to Matt Cassel and none of those QB’s get me going. Have to draft one.

    • Anonymous

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      You know, that Freeman kid is only like 25.

    • Anonymous

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      Duemig actually threw out the idea of bringing back his boy Freeman...and he was SERIOUS. smh

      :o

    • Anonymous

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      Freeman is done in Tampa Bay. He WILL get another shot somewhere else though. He is the kind of guy that will end up in New England and watch a professional QB.

    • Anonymous

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      Sign Freeman!!!......Just to fire him again

    • Anonymous

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      Rusty Smith = Championship

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      You know, that Freeman kid is only like 25.

      LOLBut seriously unless we draft BW/Bortles/Manziel, as unsexy as glennon is we may as well roll with him and see what hes got with a real coaching staff. I mean cmon, that qb FA list is just god awful

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      1. Michael Vick2. Josh McCown3. Josh Freeman4. Shaun Hill5. Chad Henne6. Tarvaris Jackson7. Colt McCoy8. Matt Flynn9. Kellen Clemens10. Luke McCown11. Derek Anderson12. David Garrard13. Dan Orlovsky14. Rex Grossman15. Curtis Painter16. Tim Tebow17. Jimmy Clausen18. Charlie Whitehurst19. Brady Quinn20. Rusty Smith

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    • Anonymous

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      Those GIF’s are so appropriate!!!

    • Anonymous

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      really like Shaun Hill, he is one of the the best backup QB in the league… i think this guy is our best shot with Glennon for 2014!anyway i don't see any long term solution at QB in free agency this year...Matt Flynn is another guy we should take look if Lovie think he can fit Tedford's scheme...add to the list Mark Sanchez, Matt Schaub & Kevin Kolb who should be cap casualties

    • Anonymous

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      really like Shaun Hill, he is one of the the best backup QB in the league... i think this guy is our best shot with Glennon for 2014!anyway i don't see any long term solution at QB in free agency this year...Matt Flynn is another guy we should take look if Lovie think he can fit Tedford's scheme...add to the list Mark Sanchez, Matt Schaub & Kevin Kolb who should be cap casualties

      Flynn and any other popcorn arm qbs are out of the question, as tedford's O requires a strong arm. Plus the butt fumbler and pik six matt? surely u jest

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      Are you guys seriously wanting to go back to the Jon Gruden QB by bandaid approach.  If Smith doesn’t think Glennon has a ceiling of being a top 16 QB in this league, and yes it takes one to contend, then he needs to move up for one that he thinks can be.  We’ve wasted the last 5 years.  No point in wasting another. 

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      Trade Glennon straight up for Tyrod Taylor and then draft Manziel or Bortles if one falls to us. If neither falls to us, roll with Taylor. If he fails as a starter…..then we go hard after Mariota or Winston next year.

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      Draft Watkins and roll with Glennon for one more season with the new coaching staff.

    • Anonymous

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      Are you being serious right now?Wow. Matt Cassell is a turd. I want to see one more poster come out an defend this suckhole of a QB. Matt Cassell?  Seriously?Glennon has an upside. Cassell is a backside.

      Sorry, what backup do you prefer to Cassel?

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      Trade Glennon straight up for Tyrod Taylor and then draft Manziel or Bortles if one falls to us. If neither falls to us, roll with Taylor. If he fails as a starter.....then we go hard after Mariota or Winston next year.

      Taylor could be good when he finally gets his shot, however I'm hesitant to pony up even a 4th rounder this year in what looks like a draft class deep with talent, especially amongst the underclassmen. And since we are already down a 3rd rounder, we really have to treat our remaining picks like juicy gold nuggets. Also despite the fact that flacco and glennon seem to be cut from the same cloth in terms of style and attributes, i don't see ozzie being interested in him. I see him sticking to his guns with taylor as his curveball/fallback on offense. Unless someone goes all crazy and offers a 2nd rounder, in which case ozzie would gladly take that to the bank

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      Trade Glennon straight up for Tyrod Taylor and then draft Manziel or Bortles if one falls to us. If neither falls to us, roll with Taylor. If he fails as a starter.....then we go hard after Mariota or Winston next year.

      Taylor could be good when he finally gets his shot, however I'm hesitant to pony up even a 4th rounder this year in what looks like a draft class deep with talent, especially amongst the underclassmen. And since we are already down a 3rd rounder, we really have to treat our remaining picks like juicy gold nuggets. Also despite the fact that flacco and glennon seem to be cut from the same cloth in terms of style and attributes, i don't see ozzie being interested in him. I see him sticking to his guns with taylor as his curveball/fallback on offense. Unless someone goes all crazy and offers a 2nd rounder, in which case ozzie would gladly take that to the bank

      You might be right because they have been using him more as special plays made just for him....but it doesn't hurt to try. Taylor is in the last year of his rookie contract and they will likely lose him and gain nothing if they hold onto him. They are already so tight with the cap that they are talking about letting go of T-Sizzle this offseason, so there is a good chance they are willing to move Taylor. If they took the straight up swap for Glennon, they would have their dirt cheap back up QB locked up until 2017...which has to be tempting to a team in such a tough cap situation. And like you mentioned, Glennon is much more like Flacco than Tyrod is. It would make sense for them.As far as them wanting a 2nd round pick....I don't see it. Everyone seems to think all these back ups like Taylor, Cousins, and Mallett are worth 2nd round picks....but none of them have done anything to earn that type of value. Maybe these guys are worth 3rds just because they are QBs and there is always value in a young unknown QB with potential...but I don't see any of them fetching a 2nd rounder.For me, Tyrod showed some special abilities in college. He has the mobility and awareness to scramble and make something out of nothing. He showed excellent accuracy at times and always threw well on the run. He was undersized and a little raw when he was drafted...but he has had 3 years of NFL coaching from an excellent club. It is feasible that he would now thrive as a starter. It's a long shot, but I will keep my fingers crossed.

    • Anonymous

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      Duemig actually threw out the idea of bringing back his boy Freeman...and he was SERIOUS. smh

      Even if Lovie was dumb enough to do that , which he's not , I'm sure the Glazers would veto paying that turd again.

    • Anonymous

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      Trade Glennon straight up for Tyrod Taylor and then draft Manziel or Bortles if one falls to us. If neither falls to us, roll with Taylor. If he fails as a starter.....then we go hard after Mariota or Winston next year.

      Taylor could be good when he finally gets his shot, however I'm hesitant to pony up even a 4th rounder this year in what looks like a draft class deep with talent, especially amongst the underclassmen. And since we are already down a 3rd rounder, we really have to treat our remaining picks like juicy gold nuggets. Also despite the fact that flacco and glennon seem to be cut from the same cloth in terms of style and attributes, i don't see ozzie being interested in him. I see him sticking to his guns with taylor as his curveball/fallback on offense. Unless someone goes all crazy and offers a 2nd rounder, in which case ozzie would gladly take that to the bank

      You might be right because they have been using him more as special plays made just for him....but it doesn't hurt to try. Taylor is in the last year of his rookie contract and they will likely lose him and gain nothing if they hold onto him. They are already so tight with the cap that they are talking about letting go of T-Sizzle this offseason, so there is a good chance they are willing to move Taylor. If they took the straight up swap for Glennon, they would have their dirt cheap back up QB locked up until 2017...which has to be tempting to a team in such a tough cap situation. And like you mentioned, Glennon is much more like Flacco than Tyrod is. It would make sense for them.As far as them wanting a 2nd round pick....I don't see it. Everyone seems to think all these back ups like Taylor, Cousins, and Mallett are worth 2nd round picks....but none of them have done anything to earn that type of value. Maybe these guys are worth 3rds just because they are QBs and there is always value in a young unknown QB with potential...but I don't see any of them fetching a 2nd rounder.For me, Tyrod showed some special abilities in college. He has the mobility and awareness to scramble and make something out of nothing. He showed excellent accuracy at times and always threw well on the run. He was undersized and a little raw when he was drafted...but he has had 3 years of NFL coaching from an excellent club. It is feasible that he would now thrive as a starter. It's a long shot, but I will keep my fingers crossed.

      As much as you bash Glennon you seem to be admitting that he has decent trade value . Taylor is no slouch.

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      If we bring back Josh… That’d be hilarious. This board would explode.

    • Anonymous

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      AJ McCarron or Aaron Murray in the 2nd round and add either Matt Flynn or Chad Henne as a fall back if Glennon doesn’t progress in the off season.

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      AJ McCarron or Aaron Murray in the 2nd round and add either Matt Flynn or Chad Henne as a fall back if Glennon doesn't progress in the off season.

      I just threw up a little. McCarron = Glennon. Murray is his own breed of average barring a switch being flipped. The other guys. Ugh.

    • Anonymous

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      I’m feeling a wildcard like Stephen Morris in the late rounds. NFL arm and mobile. He had a great Junior year but a subpar Senior year with a new offense, injuries and losing his starting WR and RB. Only thing he may be lacking is the capacity to learn Tedfords offense. Wouldn’t mind gambling a 6th round pick on him and let him study for a full season.

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      Trade Glennon straight up for Tyrod Taylor and then draft Manziel or Bortles if one falls to us. If neither falls to us, roll with Taylor. If he fails as a starter.....then we go hard after Mariota or Winston next year.

      Taylor could be good when he finally gets his shot, however I'm hesitant to pony up even a 4th rounder this year in what looks like a draft class deep with talent, especially amongst the underclassmen. And since we are already down a 3rd rounder, we really have to treat our remaining picks like juicy gold nuggets. Also despite the fact that flacco and glennon seem to be cut from the same cloth in terms of style and attributes, i don't see ozzie being interested in him. I see him sticking to his guns with taylor as his curveball/fallback on offense. Unless someone goes all crazy and offers a 2nd rounder, in which case ozzie would gladly take that to the bank

      You might be right because they have been using him more as special plays made just for him....but it doesn't hurt to try. Taylor is in the last year of his rookie contract and they will likely lose him and gain nothing if they hold onto him. They are already so tight with the cap that they are talking about letting go of T-Sizzle this offseason, so there is a good chance they are willing to move Taylor. If they took the straight up swap for Glennon, they would have their dirt cheap back up QB locked up until 2017...which has to be tempting to a team in such a tough cap situation. And like you mentioned, Glennon is much more like Flacco than Tyrod is. It would make sense for them.As far as them wanting a 2nd round pick....I don't see it. Everyone seems to think all these back ups like Taylor, Cousins, and Mallett are worth 2nd round picks....but none of them have done anything to earn that type of value. Maybe these guys are worth 3rds just because they are QBs and there is always value in a young unknown QB with potential...but I don't see any of them fetching a 2nd rounder.For me, Tyrod showed some special abilities in college. He has the mobility and awareness to scramble and make something out of nothing. He showed excellent accuracy at times and always threw well on the run. He was undersized and a little raw when he was drafted...but he has had 3 years of NFL coaching from an excellent club. It is feasible that he would now thrive as a starter. It's a long shot, but I will keep my fingers crossed.

      As much as you bash Glennon you seem to be admitting that he has decent trade value . Taylor is no slouch.

      Taylor was a 6th round pick. Glennon was a 4th....and he is a much better fit for what they do in Baltimore. It's that simple.

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      Lovie will probably go after Grossman as his #3.Glennon and ?...Can't stand pat with Glennon being handed the job.  No freaking way.

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      Trade Glennon straight up for Tyrod Taylor and then draft Manziel or Bortles if one falls to us. If neither falls to us, roll with Taylor. If he fails as a starter.....then we go hard after Mariota or Winston next year.

      Taylor could be good when he finally gets his shot, however I'm hesitant to pony up even a 4th rounder this year in what looks like a draft class deep with talent, especially amongst the underclassmen. And since we are already down a 3rd rounder, we really have to treat our remaining picks like juicy gold nuggets. Also despite the fact that flacco and glennon seem to be cut from the same cloth in terms of style and attributes, i don't see ozzie being interested in him. I see him sticking to his guns with taylor as his curveball/fallback on offense. Unless someone goes all crazy and offers a 2nd rounder, in which case ozzie would gladly take that to the bank

      You might be right because they have been using him more as special plays made just for him....but it doesn't hurt to try. Taylor is in the last year of his rookie contract and they will likely lose him and gain nothing if they hold onto him. They are already so tight with the cap that they are talking about letting go of T-Sizzle this offseason, so there is a good chance they are willing to move Taylor. If they took the straight up swap for Glennon, they would have their dirt cheap back up QB locked up until 2017...which has to be tempting to a team in such a tough cap situation. And like you mentioned, Glennon is much more like Flacco than Tyrod is. It would make sense for them.As far as them wanting a 2nd round pick....I don't see it. Everyone seems to think all these back ups like Taylor, Cousins, and Mallett are worth 2nd round picks....but none of them have done anything to earn that type of value. Maybe these guys are worth 3rds just because they are QBs and there is always value in a young unknown QB with potential...but I don't see any of them fetching a 2nd rounder.For me, Tyrod showed some special abilities in college. He has the mobility and awareness to scramble and make something out of nothing. He showed excellent accuracy at times and always threw well on the run. He was undersized and a little raw when he was drafted...but he has had 3 years of NFL coaching from an excellent club. It is feasible that he would now thrive as a starter. It's a long shot, but I will keep my fingers crossed.

      As much as you bash Glennon you seem to be admitting that he has decent trade value . Taylor is no slouch.

      Taylor was a 6th round pick. Glennon was a 4th....and he is a much better fit for what they do in Baltimore. It's that simple.

      Glennon was a 3rd . Do you really not know where our own players were drafted ?? LOL...and a lot more goes into it than just former draft position . Brady was a 6th rounder also , and I'm pretty sure we aren't trading Glennon for him . I think the Ravens are probably pretty pleased with what they have in Taylor as a prospect. Just because his game isn't a carbon copy of Flacco probably matters very little to them , so long as he can run the same offense efficiently , which he has in preseason games. Could it happen ?? I guess , if both sides really wanted it .....but I don't see Ozzie or Lovie being very motivated to do this .  I especially don't see Lovie bothering with it if he plans on drafting another QB anyways , like your plan lays out.. Glennon would be awesome to have as a backup , and Tyrod is probably more of a gamble if you need him as a starter considering he's never done it.

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      Damn….forgot we spent a 3rd. What a waste.

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      Not in favor of using a draft pick on any QB prospect that can’t be reasonably expected to win the starting position eventually.

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      But what if he wears his hat correctly?

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      No , Stedman Bailey was a 3rd round waste. 1 TD on a reverse against a Sullivan defense does not a good player make.

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      JJ here would have taken him the 2nd round.  Yeah, I remember your original mock. 

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      JJ here would have taken him the 2nd round.  Yeah, I remember your original mock.

      That was cause I saw this!!!! No tattoos.....hat worn correctly.....I figured he was a sure thing. 512x.jpg

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      No , Stedman Bailey was a 3rd round waste. 1 TD on a reverse against a Sullivan defense does not a good player make.

      This guy knows his stuff.

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      Thats a pretty bad list. The best is Vick if he goes to a team with a real good Oline

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      No , Stedman Bailey was a 3rd round waste. 1 TD on a reverse against a Sullivan defense does not a good player make.

      This guy knows his stuff.

      Lol.

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