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    • Live4BUCS

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      It’s just that simple, Fitz right now is our best QB. He would have won that game. He would have hit Djax on the deep ball that Jameis missed.

      If only our defense was worth a damn, Fitz could still be starting as we would be fighting for a playoff spot. Since the defense is garbage and there is no playoff hope, or future with Fitz, we need to start Jameis. It’s just time to blow the team up.

    • DonkeyHunter

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      Lolz…

      • Anonymous

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        Fitzpatrick throws another two interceptions is what happens. Stupid fucking idiot.

    • NYCBucs#5

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      Hot take alert

    • Pennywise

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      29 points should be plenty to win a game.

      Bucs d is just historically bad ,and you cant overcome that shit

      Not kotters biggest fan,but the fact that he cant see how bad his defense is….he deserves to be shown the door

      Truth be told Bucs coaching staff is at the bottom of the nfl

    • leeroybuc93

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      Yes, let’s take 2 games from Fitz’ 48 year career and magically decide those are the norm for him. Solid logic.

    • BucBalla85

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      Its not easy to prove but I cant say I would def disagree. Its certainly debatable.

    • bowlervtec

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      i think this post gave me cancer….

    • Charlie

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      It’s just that simple, Fitz right now is our best QB. He would have won that game. He would have hit Djax on the deep ball that Jameis missed.

      If only our defense was worth a damn, Fitz could still be starting as we would be fighting for a playoff spot. Since the defense is garbage and there is no playoff hope, or future with Fitz, we need to start Jameis. It’s just time to blow the team up.

      So first you say Fitz would have won it but then you go on to blame the defense. Which is it bud?

    • Pepsi

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      I mean.. yea he probably wins that game. I think Jameis wins the Pitsburg game tho. but Jameis loses our first two.. I honestly dont care tho because the defense is the worst in the league. I thought we may be a playoff team this year but obviously were not even close with this defense so who would play better right now between Fitz and Winston is irrelevant… which is why Winston should be on the field.. he needs reps and he needs to show what hes got so his future can be determined.

    • Pepsi

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      It’s just that simple, Fitz right now is our best QB. He would have won that game. He would have hit Djax on the deep ball that Jameis missed.

      If only our defense was worth a damn, Fitz could still be starting as we would be fighting for a playoff spot. Since the defense is garbage and there is no playoff hope, or future with Fitz, we need to start Jameis. It’s just time to blow the team up.

      So first you say Fitz would have won it but then you go on to blame the defense. Which is it bud?

      definitley both.. not sure why its one or the other.

      Fitz would have probably won. Fitz plays better with this roster than Winston does.. Bucs suck and are not a playoff team because they have the worst defense in the NFL.  None of those things are mutually exclusive.

    • Vanish

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      Fitz had two career games and people think thats the norm. There is a reason he was a journey his while career! Suddenly before he hits 40 people think he can carry teams consistently. Laughable!

      He is great as a backup. But that’s it.

    • Charlie

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      It’s just that simple, Fitz right now is our best QB. He would have won that game. He would have hit Djax on the deep ball that Jameis missed.

      If only our defense was worth a damn, Fitz could still be starting as we would be fighting for a playoff spot. Since the defense is garbage and there is no playoff hope, or future with Fitz, we need to start Jameis. It’s just time to blow the team up.

      So first you say Fitz would have won it but then you go on to blame the defense. Which is it bud?

      definitley both.. not sure why its one or the other.

      Fitz would have probably won. Fitz plays better with this roster than Winston does.. Bucs suck and are not a playoff team because they have the worst defense in the NFL. None of those things are mutually exclusive.

      “Would have probably won”…..What you say about Fitz winning is mere guessing.

      What do we know for fact: the defense fucking sucks a bag of dicks. They are the worst in the NFL and it’s not even close.

      Fitz possibly winning is just fantasy as you really don’t know.

       

       

    • Pepsi

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      yea its guessing on my part.. I also said its irrelevant because our defense is so bad and that Winston should be starting regardless.. but for the people saying it was all luck and it was the 2 best games of Fitz career.. thats because Fitz has experience, doesnt make too many mistakes, has high IQ and most importantly… has a roster that consists of Evans, Djax, Brate, Howard, Godwin, Humphries… guys our offensive roster is completely stacked with weapons… the QB of our team should be putting up historic numbers right now regardless of who it is.. that why decision making and execustion of the offense is more important then talent right now.. Winston is far more talented the Fitz.. Fitz executes this offense better than Winston.. none of it matters because our defense is the worst in league..

       

    • Charlie

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      yea its guessing on my part.. I also said its irrelevant because our defense is so bad and that Winston should be starting regardless.. but for the people saying it was all luck and it was the 2 best games of Fitz career.. thats because Fitz has experience, doesnt make too many mistakes, has high IQ and most importantly… has a roster that consists of Evans, Djax, Brate, Howard, Godwin, Humphries… guys our offensive roster is completely stacked with weapons… the QB of our team should be putting up historic numbers right now regardless of who it is.. that why decision making and execustion of the offense is more important then talent right now.. Winston is far more talented the Fitz.. Fitz executes this offense better than Winston.. none of it matters because our defense is the worst in league..

      Yeah man. The offense is going to waste because of it. It’s a shame. Arguably the best offense in Buc’s history and we as fans can’t enjoy a nice playoff run.

    • acacius

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      Meh, it makes sense that Fitz would play some of the best football of his career.  But those first two games were absolutely bonkers.  As in, had he kept those up, he would have finished with 6500 yards and 56 touchdowns.  It’s not fair to say it was all luck, but regression to his mean was coming.

    • tog

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      It’s not an unreasonableness take.

      That’s not to put all the blame on Winston, and Fitz’s early season success was likely unsustainable.

      But what Fitz was doing wasn’t magic (like Mahomes). It was simply making the right pre-snap reads, getting time in the pocket, and hitting the open player.

    • The Anti-Java

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      Disagree, Winston played fairly well. Sure a couple F-ups mixed in.
      So Fitz would not have matched his stats IMO.
      I saw a stat yesterday somewhere. a QB puts up Winstons stats from yesterday and in the history of the entire NFL, they are…..
      51-1

    • tog

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      Disagree, Winston played fairly well. Sure a couple F-ups mixed in.

      So Fitz would not have matched his stats IMO.

      I saw a stat yesterday somewhere. a QB puts up Winstons stats from yesterday and in the history of the entire NFL, they are…..

      51-1

      It as 51-1-1 lol.

      The difference is this years NFL. I mean, yes, you should win. But I have a Falcons friend who’s showing all the “records” the Falcons are “breaking” this year in losses with Ryan putting up crazy stats.

      This is the Year of the QB, lots of things that weren’t normal are now normal in 2018.

      I mean through 4 weeks the NFL had 228 TD passes which blew away the 2013 record of 205.

    • The Anti-Java

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      Disagree, Winston played fairly well. Sure a couple F-ups mixed in.

      So Fitz would not have matched his stats IMO.

      I saw a stat yesterday somewhere. a QB puts up Winstons stats from yesterday and in the history of the entire NFL, they are…..

      51-1

      It as 51-1-1 lol.

      The difference is this years NFL. I mean, yes, you should win. But I have a Falcons friend who’s showing all the “records” the Falcons are “breaking” this year in losses with Ryan putting up crazy stats.

      This is the Year of the QB, lots of things that weren’t normal are now normal in 2018.

      I mean through 4 weeks the NFL had 228 TD passes which blew away the 2013 record of 205.

      Ya that was it …thanks.

      51-1-1

    • tampaspicer

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      I was waiting for one of these dumb ass threads. GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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