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    • michael89156

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      Bucs' Frazier says Jared Allen not the same anymoreGreg Auman, Times Staff WriterThursday, October 1, 2015 jared_zpsczlsu3sv.jpgDefensive end Jared Allen will make his Panthers debut in Tampa on Sunday. David T. Foster III/The Charlotte Observer via APOf all the coaches on the Bucs staff who can speak to the greatness of defensive end Jared Allen -- who will make his Panthers debut in Tampa on Sunday -- it probably starts with defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, who was in Minnesota for all six of Allen's seasons with the Vikings.Allen had 84.5 sacks in those six seasons, along with 16 forced fumbles, peaking with a 22-sack season in 2011 when Frazier was Minnesota's head coach. And yet when Frazier was asked about Allen on Thursday, he acknowledged he might not be the same pass-rusher he once was, perhaps sending some motivational bulletin-board material up to Charlotte."I have good memories of Jared, seeing him get after quarterbacks for as long as he did for us and did a terrific job in doing that," Frazier said. "I haven't seen much of him on tape from his time with Chicago, but a gregarious guy, great in the locker room, just a good player to have on your team. He's what, 33 maybe now, so I'm not sure he's the same as when he was 25 or 26, although I'm sure he would say different. But a great player, has been a great player in our league for a few years."Allen, in fairness, had just 5.5 sacks last season in Chicago, and had none in the first three games, though he was miscast as a 3-4 outside linebacker, instead of a 4-3 defensive end as he'll be again in Carolina. As we've mentioned, Lovie Smith knows Allen very well, too -- Allen had at least two sacks in four of his first five games against Smith's Bears teams, including 3.5 in one game.

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    • Anonymous

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      I believe the comments by Frazier will inspire Allen to play like he is 25 again.

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    • Anonymous

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      Bucs' Frazier says Jared Allen not the same anymoreGreg Auman, Times Staff WriterThursday, October 1, 2015 jared_zpsczlsu3sv.jpgDefensive end Jared Allen will make his Panthers debut in Tampa on Sunday. David T. Foster III/The Charlotte Observer via APOf all the coaches on the Bucs staff who can speak to the greatness of defensive end Jared Allen -- who will make his Panthers debut in Tampa on Sunday -- it probably starts with defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, who was in Minnesota for all six of Allen's seasons with the Vikings.Allen had 84.5 sacks in those six seasons, along with 16 forced fumbles, peaking with a 22-sack season in 2011 when Frazier was Minnesota's head coach. And yet when Frazier was asked about Allen on Thursday, he acknowledged he might not be the same pass-rusher he once was, perhaps sending some motivational bulletin-board material up to Charlotte."I have good memories of Jared, seeing him get after quarterbacks for as long as he did for us and did a terrific job in doing that," Frazier said. "I haven't seen much of him on tape from his time with Chicago, but a gregarious guy, great in the locker room, just a good player to have on your team. He's what, 33 maybe now, so I'm not sure he's the same as when he was 25 or 26, although I'm sure he would say different. But a great player, has been a great player in our league for a few years."Allen, in fairness, had just 5.5 sacks last season in Chicago, and had none in the first three games, though he was miscast as a 3-4 outside linebacker, instead of a 4-3 defensive end as he'll be again in Carolina. As we've mentioned, Lovie Smith knows Allen very well, too -- Allen had at least two sacks in four of his first five games against Smith's Bears teams, including 3.5 in one game.

      Probably not the best choice of words.

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    • Anonymous

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      Hey Frazier, how about you STFU until you actually produce a defense?

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    • Anonymous

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      Hey Frazier, how about you STFU until you actually produce a defense?

      I know, right?1Does Frazier realize if Jared Allen were a Buc, he would be our best pass rusher???

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    • Anonymous

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      Hey Frazier, how about you STFU until you actually produce a defense?

      I know, right?1Does Frazier realize if Jared Allen were a Buc, he would be our best pass rusher???

      I doubt it.

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    • Anonymous

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      frazier didnt say anything bad.  its just society wants to get butthurt or pick a fight with every comment made.

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    • Anonymous

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      Please Jared Allen is done now. He sucks he’s old and just not that good. Who cares? This version of Jared Allen would not be better then Jacques Smith btw

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    • billym

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      If the o-line could handle jj and clowney no need to be losing sleep over this dude

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