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    • jbear

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      So I have this friend. We went to high school together and have stayed in touch and even our wives are friends. For years, he’s brought up politics and for the most part talks against fiscal conservatism and individual liberty and all the things I hold dear which is fine. I don’t really enjoy talking about politics with friends as that really is the smart thing to do if you want to keep friends.

      Anyway, he continually brings it up and swears he’s not a Democrat and that he’s actually an independent which is weird because he seems to get his talking points off Nancy’s desk just like Karma does.

      Some advice, don’t lie to friends and co workers about how you are registered to vote because it’s all public record and easy to look up. Yes he’s a registered Democrat. I finally thought to look him up a few weeks ago after I met up with him and some other friends for a few hours of bourbon tasting. It was a good time but he kept saying some ridiculous shit so I felt I had to look him up for my own peace of mind and whatdaya know…. my suspicions were confirmed.

      This is not the first Democrat I know personally who is pulling shit like this. Another woman, switches parties to vote in the republican primary for the biggest asshole possible. Sure as shit she voted for Trump and spent the next 4 years putting up anti Trump FB posts.

      What is it about Democrats that makes them such liars? If anyone has any insight I would love to hear it. I always lean toward the collectivist mindset. If you have a collectivist mindset, it’s not that hard to justify just about anything you do so long as you convince yourself it’s for the greater good. You are actually fighting to end the tyranny of capitalism, racism, inequality etc.

      A perfect example is the recent uptick in regular Democrat celebrities and public people condoning violence either through failing to condemn violent acts that are perpetrated by left wing good guys or pretending violence never happened or was just a random act. The mental pretzels people like Fire and Karma tie themselves into to not denounce violent acts from the left are genuinely bordering on insanity.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Oh boy…

    • jbear

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      Oh boy…

      lol

      It’s only offensive if it reminds you of yourself. I’m guessing I “might” offend a very small number of posters.

    • Biggs3535

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      I wouldn’t bust his balls too much about his current registration. I registered when I was 18 and naive. I don’t consider myself apart of that party any longer, but haven’t changed my registration. It doesn’t matter all that much to me.

    • jbear

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      I wouldn’t bust his balls too much about his current registration. I registered when I was 18 and naive. I don’t consider myself apart of that party any longer, but haven’t changed my registration. It doesn’t matter all that much to me.

      Yeah, maybe I’ll ask him about it… I may offer to drive him down to the voting office to have it changed to independent. Does that count as ball busting? It should.

    • KarmaPolice

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      Based on the title I thought the thread was about me.

      Awkward

    • TheChronicHotAir

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      Can you blame him?

      I wouldn’t want people to know that I vote for stupid mf’n retarded idiots (D).

      (no offense, Catfish cult.)

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      I wouldn’t want people to know that I vote for stupid mf’n retarded idiots (D).

      You don’t need any help verifying you’re a retarded idiot.

      We already know.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Oh boy…

      lol

      It’s only offensive if it reminds you of yourself. I’m guessing I “might” offend a very small number of posters.

      Lol. Oh, I’m not offended at all.

      Just find the whole premise of this thread amusing.

    • Roy

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      Maybe they aren’t telling you they are Democrats because you are an asshole and its none of your goddam business. Some “freind” you are if you can’t show him respect. Is he dragging your politics out into the street? Funny, I thought you were the libertarian. You of all people, the anti-cancel culture libertarian, ought to be able to respect people’s right to believe what they want. But if you are up for a good flogging of those who disagree with you, why are you so silent about the QAnoners and Proud Boys in your own party? Why not have them dragged out of their houses and exposed to the public? Is it because you agree with them? Those are the ones trying to overturn our Democracy. Democrats and Republicans have been co-existing for what 150 years? But now in the age of Trump anybody who disagrees with Trump is anti-American and should be flogged. This is the beginning of an authoritarian dictatorship and you know it, yet you willingly join in. Some Libertarian you are.

    • Roy

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      Oh and lets review:
      Biden
      51.3%
      81,283,786
      Trump
      46.8%
      74,222,552

      It could be that your friend went to college. Because that demographic went heavily for Biden. Here’s a stat for you. Of the 202 counties in the United States with a Whole Foods Market, Biden won 171 of them. That’s because the successful college educated people voted for Biden. But sure lets stick with the theory that those who voted against Trump are the stupid ones. You stick with that one.

      What you really should do, buddy boy, is talk to your friend and GET HIS PERSPECTIVE! He’s your freind. Show him the respect of actually trying to find out what his line of thinking is, rather than having this guy dragged out into the street and beaten. Come back here on this board and report what you have discovered. I’ve given you an assignment. I expect it to be done in one week.

    • FireLicht2020

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      I have an anecdotal story that is presumed truth to an astronomically larger group of people.

      That’s pretty rad, dude! Good for you

    • jbear

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      Maybe they aren’t telling you they are Democrats because you are an asshole and its none of your goddam business. Some “freind” you are if you can’t show him respect. Is he dragging your politics out into the street? Funny, I thought you were the libertarian. You of all people, the anti-cancel culture libertarian, ought to be able to respect people’s right to believe what they want. But if you are up for a good flogging of those who disagree with you, why are you so silent about the QAnoners and Proud Boys in your own party? Why not have them dragged out of their houses and exposed to the public? Is it because you agree with them? Those are the ones trying to overturn our Democracy. Democrats and Republicans have been co-existing for what 150 years? But now in the age of Trump anybody who disagrees with Trump is anti-American and should be flogged. This is the beginning of an authoritarian dictatorship and you know it, yet you willingly join in. Some Libertarian you are.

      Of all the people who I would suspect that I might offend, good natured Roy would have been far down the list.

      Anyway you’re misunderstanding me. I’m not asking him he’s telling me as part of his shtick that he’s really an objective person that he is an independent and not a Democrat.

      As far as being a bad friend, I’m not outing anyone. This is an anonymous message board.

      Until fire gets some of his harmless anti racist black shirts pals to cyber attack the cove to track the real jbear down and out me as a dangerous racist who’s opinions are too unsavory to allow outside of a gulag, I think my friend will remain anonymous.

    • BucsSavant

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      So I have this friend. We went to high school together and have stayed in touch and even our wives are friends. For years, he’s brought up politics and for the most part talks against fiscal conservatism and individual liberty and all the things I hold dear which is fine. I don’t really enjoy talking about politics with friends as that really is the smart thing to do if you want to keep friends.

      Anyway, he continually brings it up and swears he’s not a Democrat and that he’s actually an independent which is weird because he seems to get his talking points off Nancy’s desk just like Karma does.

      Some advice, don’t lie to friends and co workers about how you are registered to vote because it’s all public record and easy to look up. Yes he’s a registered Democrat. I finally thought to look him up a few weeks ago after I met up with him and some other friends for a few hours of bourbon tasting. It was a good time but he kept saying some ridiculous shit so I felt I had to look him up for my own peace of mind and whatdaya know…. my suspicions were confirmed.

      This is not the first Democrat I know personally who is pulling shit like this. Another woman, switches parties to vote in the republican primary for the biggest asshole possible. Sure as shit she voted for Trump and spent the next 4 years putting up anti Trump FB posts.

      What is it about Democrats that makes them such liars? If anyone has any insight I would love to hear it. I always lean toward the collectivist mindset. If you have a collectivist mindset, it’s not that hard to justify just about anything you do so long as you convince yourself it’s for the greater good. You are actually fighting to end the tyranny of capitalism, racism, inequality etc.

      A perfect example is the recent uptick in regular Democrat celebrities and public people condoning violence either through failing to condemn violent acts that are perpetrated by left wing good guys or pretending violence never happened or was just a random act. The mental pretzels people like Fire and Karma tie themselves into to not denounce violent acts from the left are genuinely bordering on insanity.

      They never admit, because they are ashamed. American-style Liberalism is a mental illness at this point

    • jbear

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      I have an anecdotal story that is presumed truth to an astronomically larger group of people.

      That’s pretty rad, dude! Good for you

      In this case it is true but what’s really the difference if it’s true or not. The point is to discuss the low moral character of progressives.

      • FireLicht2020

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        Bwuahahaha… you voted for Donald Trump and you’ll lecture on morals.

        Such a fucking clown… you get worse day by day. De-evolving into chron level stupidity

    • jbear

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      Oh and lets review:
      Biden
      51.3%
      81,283,786
      Trump
      46.8%
      74,222,552

      Yet we have the electoral college so none of this matters. Even if it did, 74 million people voted for a guy who you believe is a criminal. So roughly half the country thinks you’re wrong. And you and Karma and Fire’s only response is that it’s because everyone who voted for Trump is uneducated? really?

      That’s a whole lot of morons and that is not even taking into account the morons who voted for Biden which even you three ought to be able to admit exist.

      It’s just that this argument always gets to me. It’s such a ridiculous argument to make but it seems to never go away. Everyone who voted for Trump is a moron. There are no legitimate reasons that anyone could possibly vote for that person so….. stoooopid.

      Not to mention what this being true would say about the country and the future of it.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Let’s review:

      Jbear tells a pointless story

      Jbear is frightened of his shadow

      Jbear acts like a clown

      This is how you bring people down to your level of stupidity.

    • Roy

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      JBear, having reflected on this thread, I have to say its a little unfocused. So I’ll just make some points.

      Why should someone have to tell their co-workers what party they belong to? Well obvious answer (well not obvious to you apparently) is that they shouldn’t.

      Why are Democrats liars? Maybe we are trying to keep up with the Joneses, the Joneses being the Republicans. But that’s a tall order because damn there are some whoppers out there. Have you heard the one where Trump really won the election? How about the one where Democrats have a secret society of baby eaters? How about the one where the Coronavirus was made up by the Democrats and it will all go away on November 7th? OMG I’m laughing my ass off just thinking about this, calling the Democrats liars. Whew that’s a good one.
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      As for everyone who voted for Trump being morons. I didn’t say that, but I’ll say that they are seriously deluded. Trump is a charismatic charlatan, snake oil salesman, who doesn’t care about America. Doesn’t care about our Democracy. Doesn’t care about our Christianity, Republicans, the Constitution, the border, the budget….. he doesn’t care about anything except Donald Trump. He tried to overthrow our Democracy, and he’s still trying. If you believe in Trump, you have bought the hype and you can’t see that you are being taken for a ride. I can’t say if its because people are morons, or they want to believe in something that isn’t there. Whatever the reason is, they are totally bamboozled.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      The point is to discuss the low moral character of progressives.

      Now discuss the low moral character of the opposite end of the spectrum.

    • jbear

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      The point is to discuss the low moral character of progressives.

      Now discuss the low moral character of the opposite end of the spectrum.

      Liz Cheney is just about as low moral character as it gets. I don’t like to blame the kids for the sins of the father but in this case… her father, sheesh! And she followed right in his footsteps. The leader of what remains of the neo-conservative movement. A terrible person of low moral character.

      Happy DH? lol

    • KarmaPolice

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      The point is to discuss the low moral character of progressives.

      Now discuss the low moral character of the opposite end of the spectrum.

      Liz Cheney is just about as low moral character as it gets. I don’t like to blame the kids for the sins of the father but in this case… her father, sheesh! And she followed right in his footsteps. The leader of what remains of the neo-conservative movement. A terrible person of low moral character.

      Happy DH? lol

      I thought you would pick Rand Paul

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      The point is to discuss the low moral character of progressives.

      Now discuss the low moral character of the opposite end of the spectrum.

      Liz Cheney is just about as low moral character as it gets. I don’t like to blame the kids for the sins of the father but in this case… her father, sheesh! And she followed right in his footsteps. The leader of what remains of the neo-conservative movement. A terrible person of low moral character.

      Happy DH? lol

      Nah.

      Don’t stick those toes in the shallow end. Jump in the deep end like I asked.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Is this jbear?

    • KarmaPolice

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      MAGA has Putin in it’s side

    • jbear

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      Is this jbear?

      Anyone who says something like “forked tongue” is probably a religious nut.

      So no, not me.

    • jbear

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      MAGA has Putin in it’s side

      I have to admit that is freaking awesome coming from the guy who poisons the opposition.

    • jbear

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      Nah.

      Don’t stick those toes in the shallow end. Jump in the deep end like I asked.

      Lindsay Graham is a total asshole! John Bolton too! Tom Cotton is a disciple of one of Karma’s favorite people Bill Kristol and they are both total assholes with very low moral standards. Chirs Christie, low low low moral standards. Rudy… absolutely.

      Here’s a Rudy clip that I will never in my life forget.

      What a douche! and to wild applause.

      Rudy asks Paul to withdraw his statement and Ron Paul responds:

      “I believe very sincerely that the CIA is correct when they teach and talk about blowback. When we went into Iran in 1953 and installed the Shaw, yes there was blowback. The reaction to that was the taking of our hostages and that persists. If we ignore that we ignore that at our own risk. If we think that we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred then we have a problem. They don’t come here to attack us, because we are rich and we are free, they attack us because we’re over there. What would we think if other foreign countries were doing that to us?”

      The entire stage erupts at the blasphemy! This was the Republican party of 2008 and the remnants of this party are the worst of the worst.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      @jbear

      Come on. Keep going. I know you got a few more in you.

      DJT? Gaetz? MTG?

      Or, we’re you simply saving the best for last?

    • jbear

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      DJT? Gaetz? MTG?

      Sure sure. The obvious ones of course. MTG and Gaatz are like the squad of the Republican party. Remember when Omar was almost kicked out of the Democratic party because of anti-semetic comments? wasn’t so long ago.

      I don’t think either of those two are neocons but I know a nutjob when I see one.

    • jbear

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      @jbear

      Come on. Keep going. I know you got a few more in you.

      DJT? Gaetz? MTG?

      Or, we’re you simply saving the best for last?

      Look DH, there are a whole lot of Republicans who I don’t like very much and probably have low moral standards. Remember Trey Radel? He was my representative, a TV personality and very popular guy who went to D.C. and got busted for cocaine like a week after he got there. There are low moral people in any political party.

      But I reserve the most ridicule for those who I believe are not genuine about their motives, who use politics and gamesmanship with no regard for the truth and the purpose of every word they utter is to manipulate the public to some unseen ends. Given my political leanings it’s only natural that I feel that way more strongly about many democrats than I do about many republicans… because I so disagree with where they really want to lead us but won’t say.

      Remember Bernie Sanders deodorant comments? I sure do, because it was one of the clearest evidences ever of a politician slipping up and revealing their true, nefarious intentions. Politically he could only go so far in trying to make the “socialism” label less scary but when you talk positively about solving hunger by controlling the means of production you reveal a real inclination towards outright communism not socialism at all. That also explains his moscow honeymoon.

      Here’s a refresher.

      But soo important over the last several years for Fire and Karma to go bananas for just pointing out the truth about the guy. When there is an agenda that you have to lie about on a daily basis that is an example of terribly low moral standards.

      It’s just like the antifa black shirts of Rose city antifa who have been recorded teaching recruits how to cover up their true motives and tactics. Grab and smash cell phones, intimidate reporters, and punch somebody in the face without being seen or recorded. This shit is real and as low morals as it gets.

      Sorry DH.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Sure sure. The obvious ones of course. MTG and Gaatz are like the squad of the Republican party.

      That’s more like it.

      But I reserve the most ridicule for those who I believe are not genuine about their motives, who use politics and gamesmanship with no regard for the truth and the purpose of every word they utter is to manipulate the public to some unseen ends.

      I was wondering when you’d mention Trump.

      Well done, sir! Bravo!

    • KarmaPolice

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      But I reserve the most ridicule for those who I believe are not genuine about their motives

      Fear

      JBear fears thst he’s being deceived

    • KarmaPolice

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      But never mentions Trump even though he described him perfectly

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