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    • Alldaway 2.0

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      Tryon A
      Trask D+
      Hainsey B+
      Darden A
      Britt B-
      Wilcox A-
      Stuard C+

      These grades are based on value and team fits.

      Tryon is going to easy slide into the #3 role as an edge rusher. Huge upgrade from what the Bucs had a year ago.

      Trask is going to be a solid back up for years to come and compete with the Bucs drafted QB in 2023 for the Bucs starting job.

      Hainsey is a much more technical blocker coming out of college than Cappa and also has played against better competition. Will compete year 1 on the interior and will probably play TE in jumbo packages.

      Darden is the Bucs best pick of the draft. A return specialist and also a weapon you can use underneath to keep defenses honest. An upgrade over Mickens IMO and I hope he sticks because his upside is very good.

      Britt is a classic downhill ILB that plays the run. Good depth and special teams potential. Doesn’t have the speed that the Bucs usually value but his run stopping ability is important for the Bucs D scheme.

      Wilcox another good value pick has the size and speed the Bucs want for a backup DB and will be asked to be a special teams ace while he develops his DB skills and footwork.

      Stuard another special team ace drafted and will compete for a spot at LB. Most likely will stick on PS and will be developed if he shows potential.

      Overall I like the Bucs draft sans the Trask pick. B+

      Build the trenches!

    • Bucman

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      Solid day 3. Went hard on STs which was horrible last year.

      • Jr.3

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        I still blame the 1ST lost on ST. The Buccaneers where making a comeback (24-21 I think) until we gave them the ball back on a Kickoff and then it went down hill from there.

    • Alldaway 2.0

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      I am inclined to agree I like the special team focus. If any of these day 3 gusy actually end up playing bigger roles in 2023 that makes an easy A for this draft. Of course Tryon, Trask and Hainsey have to pan out too.

      Build the trenches!

    • BucBalla85

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      Good to upgrade the special teams.

    • kingtrojan

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      Solid B I would have liked more focus on the O-line and secondary but happy non the less. I don’t get the Trask hate though he clearly wasn’t picked to start any time soon and with the Bucs picking so low they obviously felt he would not be there for them in rd 3 so they took him maybe 15 picks higher then he should be

    • Darktanian

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      I think the main message of this song describes this draft perfectly…

    • Puckrobber

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      I think all of the picks were just fine. Was Trask a reach? Probably in the 2nd Round. But, BA & JL seemed to like what he brought, plus, he’ll have a couple of years (hopefully) to learn from the G.O.A.T.

      Also, the team just won the Lombardi, AND, brought back all 22 starters? This draft was basically a bunch of luxury picks that the team can groom to their liking, without worrying about rushing them onto the field because they have major holes in the roster.

      Overall, a B+ grade. Looking forward to seeing my home state guy, Joe Tryon, do well.

    • BucBalla85

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      I think all of the picks were just fine. Was Trask a reach? Probably in the 2nd Round. But, BA & JL seemed to like what he brought, plus, he’ll have a couple of years (hopefully) to learn from the G.O.A.T.

      Also, the team just won the Lombardi, AND, brought back all 22 starters? This draft was basically a bunch of luxury picks that the team can groom to their liking, without worrying about rushing them onto the field because they have major holes in the roster.

      Overall, a B+ grade. Looking forward to seeing my home state guy, Joe Tryon, do well.

      Exactly. It’s a luxury draft that we just really just had to make sure we were adding good depth. I realize that people think Trask won’t amount to much but a backup and while we could have just resigned our backup from last year we pretty much know what we got in him. Even though there are experts on how Trask will end up, we still don’t know for sure so that at least is a benefit for him. You don’t get to do that unless your in a luxury place. Is it really gonna set us back if our late 2nd round qb doesn’t amount to a starter? Not really but I can see how people would rather make that pick count.

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    • Pepsi

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      Darden looks cool but hes not a lock to make the team. I cant give that pick an A grade if im not even confident he makes the team. It was the most loaded position on the roster. Evans, Godwin, AB, Miller, and Johnson. Unless Johnson regresses in year 2, Darden is fighting for WR 6.

      • BucsSavant

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        Darden looks cool but hes not a lock to make the team. I cant give that pick an A grade if im not even confident he makes the team. It was the most loaded position on the roster. Evans, Godwin, AB, Miller, and Johnson. Unless Johnson regresses in year 2, Darden is fighting for WR 6.

        If they traded up for him, I would consider him a lock, especially if he can return they way they hope. Remember, there were up the 7 WRs on the roster at times last season.

    • Greattimes

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      Proper draft grades can’t be made until 3 years after the draft.

    • BucsSavant

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      Proper draft grades can’t be made until 3 years after the draft.

      +1
      Especially in this draft

    • Trask Force

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      Yeah OK I’ll mark my calendar for three years from now so I can comment…. or maybe not. Fans can make their grades. Its understood that we can’t really know until later.

      I’ll give it a “B-“. but we picked last so what are you going to do. I will go along with the Tryon pick, that was a run on Edge, and so if that is the position you want you had to stand pat and take that player. Trask was “meh”, but if they wanted to get him they had take him then as evidenced by the two QBs taken a couple picks later. Trask was part of the 2nd Tier QB run there. And Hainsey I think they may like his versatility as a tackle and a guard, but it seems like that pick was more about having a versatile backup in 2021 rather than taking a developmental player with a high upside.

      Was this a draft where they just came up a little late on some guys like Creed Humphrey in Round 2 or Oweh in Round 1. A bunch of guards came off the board before the Bucs got Hainsey. It was our draft position which got the better of the Bucs. One or two spots higher and we would have drafted different players IMO, but what do I know.

    • Boid Fink

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      C.

      Nothing jumps out at you, the players are solid depth potential.

    • GoldsonAges

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      Grading the draft at this stage is just for laughs. It can be fun, but you are grading the unknown, kind of an oxymoron.

      We could have an injury, and the 4th round WR could light up the NFL. Anything could happen. The thing I like, is instead of drafting for positional need on day 3 as they usually do, instead we got some legit special teamers, players who will be able to help the team this year.

      Overall very smart drafting this year.

      GottaJaboo wrote:
      (Justin) Evans will be far superior to (Budda) Baker in the pros.

      Dan Skipper Sucks! (lost bet)
      Update – UDFA Dan Skipper has been signed by the Dallas Cowboys

    • m_j

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      Proper draft grades can’t be made until 3 years after the draft.

      +1
      Especially in this draft

      that‘s true, but my overall feeling is this was average B-ish at best

    • Donkey

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      Pretty unexciting draft. Don’t get a great initial feeling about any of the picks like I did with Wirfs and Winfield last year so I guess we will have to wait a see if one can or two of them pan out. There was a solid attempt to hit on all our needs. No one is denying we needed depth on the DL and OL or that the heir apparent to Brady was not already on the roster. Depth at LB and special teams needed help as well and were addressed. But the picks are question marks. B- sounds like a fair grade at this point.

    • BuccaNOLEer

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      Wilcox was a great pickup. He’s small for a CB but he flat out levels the guys he hits. He will do amazing on special teams, especially as a gunner on punt coverages

    • Donkey

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      Not a popular opinion here but the more info I get on Trask and the more I think about it the more I like this pick. I think it will be the one pick that makes or breaks this draft for us and as of right now (since none of us know what his or any drafted QBs nfl career is going to look like) I think it was at least excellent value. Low risk with a high reward.

    • GIJoeWasThere

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      I tend to agree ADW. Trask is a career back up/3rd stringer. He might be an NFL QB above the neck, but he is a good college QB below the neck.

    • dalbuc

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      Unlike last year this feels like we got 1 player and a bunch of guys who are either a miss or basically we drafted to get guys who would be backups with no starter potential.

      Tyron is a big win. Production and physical tools at a position of high need/value. Love this selection.
      Trask. Bad player, bad theory taking the player. I say bad theory because the idea that you will get a QB1 at the back end of R2 is silly. Worse, is that if you are all in on this year and next this represents a big opportunity cost on a player who could contribute and you picked a guy who won’t play.
      Hainsey. R3 is a place you can get a potential starter for interior OL and Hainsey is a guy that can’t be a tackle and will have to kick inside, something he hasn’t done other than Senior Bowl. Even at that, his toolset seems limited and he has technical problems because his physical tools are limited. He’s a guy we want to be a backup this year but his ceiling feels backup and I don’t like drafting for a low ceiling.
      Darden makes me mental because we see this all the time of drafting a guy to be a return guy. Problem is that position basically doesn’t matter in terms of value. Worse, success is more random than purposed. It makes a nice talking point but getting a guy who can play matters more.
      Britt is very much the sort of guy you get in R5. He feels like a guy who has a long term future as a backup ILB but his weakness in coverage is lethal as a starter.
      Wilcox and Stuard are R7 guys so whatever. I mean ideally I want physical freaks with no production or crazy production with no physical traits. Swing for the fences, these guys are neither of those but both are pretty much what you usually get in R7.

    • CaptainStagger

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      I was really hoping we would trade up into round 2 for JOK, just would have been fun to see what Bowles could have done with him. Also surprised we didn’t pull the trigger on Gainwell or Carter considering we have nothing but Vaughn after this year.

      Overall I really didn’t fall in love with any prospects this year, for once I didn’t care about the draft the way I have the last two decades. Just go win another SB.

    • The Freeman

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      so much talk about BPA, in the end it was short term needs view… 3rd edge rusher, cheap backup QB, Joe Haeg’s replacement, return specialist and ST… short term view over BPA!

      Grade: C+

      1) Tryon B+
      biggest need, just wish they would have traded down with all the talent still available… + not a finished product.
      2) Trask C-
      i’ve said it before, i didn’t want this regime to draft QB the first two days, BA doesn’t have 4-5 years of coaching behind him… new coach = new QB… you can add Trask to the long list of QB drafted by the bucs who didn’t see a second contract here!
      3) Hainsey C-
      he’s Joe Haeg 2.0, career backup with versatility… in the 3rd round, i want long-term starting potential. (Vaughn last year, Hainsey this year… Licht need to stop picking 4th/5th rounder in the 3rd)
      4) Darden C-
      how many failed gadget project BA needs to make you think it’s a good trade? + they want to stress ST and pass on Avery Williams twice for him and Britt.
      5) Britt D
      we’re in 2021, LBs who can’t cover or rush the QB should be udfa! (Najee Goode 2.0)
      7a) Wilcox A
      Ryan Smith’s potential replacement at the end of the draft could be better value than any previous Licht’s 7th rd pick, i was tired of the FB or DT project.
      7b) Stuard A
      can’t be A+ for those 7th rd picks with some of the prospect still available (David Moore, some big receivers and TE/HB) but if they’re big contributor on 4th down it’s good value, cause we sucks on ST.

    • BucsSavant

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      Wilcox was a great pickup. He’s small for a CB

      He’s 6’2……

    • RW

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      Darden looks cool but hes not a lock to make the team. I cant give that pick an A grade if im not even confident he makes the team. It was the most loaded position on the roster. Evans, Godwin, AB, Miller, and Johnson. Unless Johnson regresses in year 2, Darden is fighting for WR 6.

      Darden will be the kick returner on the team. And he will take Evans job as well.

    • Madman

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      JDflash might be my favorite pick. Not sure Tryon is better than Azeez Ojulari. I guess we’ll see.

    • Barnz1

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      Tryon C – Average 2019 tape, has A LONG way to go as a pass rusher, good athlete. There were safer and more proven options in the first round. Banking on that if he didn’t open out he would’ve dominated in 2020. But that is a big if.

      Trask F – Why…

      Hainsey A – Second best lineman where we picked. Not sure why we overlooked Meinerz but this guy was rated about where we took him.

      Darden B – I would rate this an A for the player talent but we used 2 picks to get him which exacerbates other bad picks.

      Britt D – 4.76 40. This guy might’ve been decent in the 90’s NFL. Picking a guy purely for special teams in the 5th after taking a backup QB in the 2nd hurts. This should’ve been another trench pick for depth. Plenty of options here to replace Khail Davis, Ledbetter or 35 year old McLendon.

      Wilcox B – Special teams. Meh. It’s the 7th round so can’t complain.

      Stuard B – Special teams. Meh. It’s the 7th round so can’t complain.

      Overall C- draft. We drafted like we knew we are better than everyone else and our picks this year don’t really matter. This could hurt us in the long run

    • tiapanda

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      The overall gut feeling I get from this draft is that the Bucs got everyone they targeted in every round. No tradeup in the 2nd because they knew they were taking Trask. They got the versatile OL they wanted in the 3rd and only had to trade up once to get the dynamic wr/pr they coveted. The last 3 picks all seem like upgrades at the bottom of the roster. When you’re as talented as the Bucs and are basically only looking for depth and special teams players, you’re on a different grading system, and this draft nailed it.

    • GIJoeWasThere

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      Darden looks cool but hes not a lock to make the team. I cant give that pick an A grade if im not even confident he makes the team. It was the most loaded position on the roster. Evans, Godwin, AB, Miller, and Johnson. Unless Johnson regresses in year 2, Darden is fighting for WR 6.

      Darden will be the kick returner on the team. And he will take Evans job as well.

      Evans job???? Huh? The dude is Dexter Jackson part 2.

    • Alldaway 2.0

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      Tryon tells me that the Anthony Nelson experiment is over. Nelson should be moved to 5 tech but as a #4 or #5 edge he is okay but I don’t see his roster spot as safe. O’Connor is far more versatile and the same for Ledbetter.

      Trask selection is purely a potential cap savings venture which again is hard to justify using a 2nd round pick when you are just going to re-sign Gabbert anyways. Maybe the payoff happens in 2022 or 2023?

      Hainsey is not really a project because his technique as a rookie may be on par with Cappa in year 4. I am not that high on Cappa and the staff probably feels that Cappa isn’t receiving a second contract anyways. If Cappa regresses I do not believe his job is safe IMO as the Bucs will turn to Stinnie or Hainsey.

      Darden selection is very easy to understand looking at the Bucs roster. Miller’s hands can be iffy and he is purely a deep threat. Watson can’t run the right routes and his hands can be iffy. Mickens can’t run the right routes and his hands are not good. Johnson has very good hands and runs precise routes but he doesn’t have that shiftiness or explosion.

      I will say that Hainsey and Darden are going to have a bigger impact early on than probably the first two picks. Tryon will come along once he is back to football shape as he missed time. Trask is an enigma.

      If I had to pick a darkhorse to turn heads from this draft class I will have to go with Hainsey. Technically sound and played against much, much better competition than Cappa. If a player like Cappa can start in this league than that is an easy bar for a player like Hainsey to overcome very soon.

      Build the trenches!

    • Spartan01

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      C- draft for me.

      We’ll never really know, but from what I’m hearing/reading it looks like Creed Humphrey was our main target in round two. I’m guessing we could have traded our 5th round pick, at the most, to move up and it would have had us trading up about 3 spots to #61 with the Bills. Either Licht didn’t get aggressive to make the move up or the Bills didn’t want to play ball.

      This was the pivot point in our draft as it derailed our picks afterwards when we went with “plan B” and Trask. Had we traded our 5th rounder to move up and gotten Humphrey our draft would have looked like this based on the players we were rumored to be interested in, had meetings with, and actually ended up drafting:

      1. Joe Tryon EDGE
      2. Creed Humphrey IOL
      3. Derrick Barnes ILB
      4. Jaelon Darden WR
      7. Chris Wilcox CB
      7. Grant Stuard LB/S

      So, instead of Humphrey we settled for Hainsey, and instead of Barnes we settled for KJ Britt, and in return got a QB who will likely never play meaningful snaps for us. I’m also gonna bet Hainsey and Britt are not on the team in 3 years, whereas Humphrey and Barnes would have turned into cornerstones of our team. Time will tell, but still very disappointing.

      Like I said, it’s possible that we tried but couldn’t trade up for Humphrey, and in that case the cookie just crumbled badly for us this year with KC taking him right before us (reminds me of how the Bills took Cody Ford one pick before us in 2018 and he was very likely going to be our pick). Last year everything fell into place pretty well for us with Wirfs, Winfield, and Johnson, so I guess it can’t be perfect every time. Will be interesting to see how this year’s group pans out, but my money is on Tryon and Darden being the two guys that stick and play well over the next 4-8 years.

    • Boid Fink

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      Stuart was 8 in the nation in tackles. That is solid production for a seventh rounder. Big heart. Sounds like value as a special teamed, and maybe occasionally an j side run stuffer. But I get it. Tryon is upside and a boom/bust guy. Most round 1 DE are. Maybe he has an Adrian Clayborn type career. Maybe more.

      I like the Jaelen Darden pick. A lot. More every day. You watch his stuff, and it is all upside and big play and YAC for days. Special team ROI is even, because we aren’t getting Devin Hester here. Just a guy who may shake free for one or two 6’s. His receiver upside is what I am keen about, and I think he was a solid pick. WR room is crowded, but two years of Brady potentially, and these are the guys he likes to throw to. Darden is literally a receiver built for Brady. I almost feel like they gave him (12) a pick and this was it…

      Unlike last year this feels like we got 1 player and a bunch of guys who are either a miss or basically we drafted to get guys who would be backups with no starter potential.

      Tyron is a big win. Production and physical tools at a position of high need/value. Love this selection.
      Trask. Bad player, bad theory taking the player. I say bad theory because the idea that you will get a QB1 at the back end of R2 is silly. Worse, is that if you are all in on this year and next this represents a big opportunity cost on a player who could contribute and you picked a guy who won’t play.
      Hainsey. R3 is a place you can get a potential starter for interior OL and Hainsey is a guy that can’t be a tackle and will have to kick inside, something he hasn’t done other than Senior Bowl. Even at that, his toolset seems limited and he has technical problems because his physical tools are limited. He’s a guy we want to be a backup this year but his ceiling feels backup and I don’t like drafting for a low ceiling.
      Darden makes me mental because we see this all the time of drafting a guy to be a return guy. Problem is that position basically doesn’t matter in terms of value. Worse, success is more random than purposed. It makes a nice talking point but getting a guy who can play matters more.
      Britt is very much the sort of guy you get in R5. He feels like a guy who has a long term future as a backup ILB but his weakness in coverage is lethal as a starter.
      Wilcox and Stuard are R7 guys so whatever. I mean ideally I want physical freaks with no production or crazy production with no physical traits. Swing for the fences, these guys are neither of those but both are pretty much what you usually get in R7.

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