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    • ronald macdonald

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      I have a strong feeling if we could get even a 3rd round pick for him, Licht would pull the trigger.
      Yeah, he could rebound and play better this year, but at this point he is a bust. If he disappoints again he’s like to be cut after the season.
      If you hope to get any return from what looks to be a wasted pick, now is the time.

      Maybe a team feels he’s being misused in our scheme, and still views him as the first round prospect he was going into the 2016 draft?

      I think we could get at least a 3rd. Only takes one team to make it happen. Would you guys be in?

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    • Pennywise

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      None

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    • buccaneerNW

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      There is no chance that Licht would trade Hargreaves, unless somebody was offering a 1st or 2nd rounder this year… but nobody’s gonna do that. Plus they still believe he’s going to turn it around. VH3 isn’t going anywhere. Kind of a ludicrous post.

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    • Anonymous

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      VH3 played very poorly the first half of the season. Something clicked and he played much more aggressive the last three game prior to his injury. I think he can and will be a solid corner. He needs to continue to play agressive and not stand 10 yards off the receiver.

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    • Knucknbuc

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      A 3rd rounder for vh3 sheeiiitt where do I sign?

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    • tatmanfish

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      Hargreaves actually played pretty well the few games before his injury. I don’t think he has a ton of trade value and I don’t think it would be the smartest to deal a guy who started to show he was turning the corner…pun intended.

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    • SCLOBERNOCKER

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      Ya, lets create MORE holes on our defense. Solid plan.

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    • DEBUCSOWN

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      I think you are high. Bucs couldn’t get a 5th rounder for him yet alone a 3rd.

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    • nybuccguy

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      What about a straight up trade, VH3 for Eli Apple?

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    • Hank Scorpio

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      Once VH3 moved to slot, which is the only position in Mike Smith’s stupid defensive philosophy that calls for press coverage (you know, the coverage that made him a 1st rd pick in college?), he started playing at a high level. Weird how that works.

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    • BucsBay

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      VH3 did a good job in his time filling in for Grimes at LCB as well outside of one big pass given up to Steffon Diggs (who did that a few times).

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    • Soul Bro

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      Hargeaves was awful last year and a really poor pick. That said, if I’m Licht, I’m on the phone with Buffalo offering him for Lawson. Seems both could use a change of scenery.

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    • Anonymous

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      We are no better or worse with HG3. He serviceable at times but for the most part he just fills space. I’d be tickled to land a 3rd for him. Tickled!

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    • T.I. McCrown: King of the South

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      Or we could recoup the entire value of the first round pick that we spent on him by playing him in a way that properly utilized his talent. You know, like a coaching staff is supposed to do.

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    • GottaJaboo

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      Not sure if OP is seriousness. For good or ill, VHIII isn’t going anywhere. I suspect he’ll play much better in the fall once we have a little bit of a pass rush.

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      GoldsonAges on 2nd round pick, Safety, Justin Evans, out of Texas A&M – “coaching can’t fix this”.

    • SunnyD

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      As someone else pointed out, he played pretty well when they moved him into the slot. That plus the fact that he is under contract for less than $5million combined in ’18 and ’19 (plus 5th year option in 2020) makes him far more valuable to the Bucs as a slot starter/dirt cheap depth than anything they could get for him in a trade.

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    • cvillebucfan

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      This is what KILLS me about this board! Marcus Peters was just traded for what? Now how in the hell could VH3 be moved for a 3rd???? Come on…

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    • Anonymous

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      What is the going rate for a short, slow slot corner who isn’t that good?

      I’d say he is worth a seventh rounder. He isn’t all that. He won’t see a second contract in Tampa.

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