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    • dexmonkey

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      Im doing a user mock draft on another website and I have the Bucs. We are doing a full 4 round mock right now and ive just completed my selections. How would you guys feel if this is how our first 4 rounds went? We allowed trades and movements.Trades I executedTraded #7 overall for #17 plus #34Traded #38 (Bucs original 2nd) for 31st pick in the 2nd and 31st pick in the 3rdGained an extra 2 and a 3Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford2nd - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State3rd - Ego Ferguson DT LSU4th - Marcus Smith DE LouisvilleI personally would be thrilled with this. I think it addresses our major needs and when combined with Free Agency can get us back to where we need to be. I wanted to get a DE earlier but there really wasn't any value when I came on the clock and I lost my target in the 3rd when someone traded 1 spot in front of me to take him. All in all it gets us a replacement at RT or OG, a playmaker in the slot, a major mismatch TE, 2 very good DL depth players than can easily develop into starters

    • Anonymous

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      I do like this. This team has several holes and these guys would fill some of them.

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      Who was still on the board at 7 when you made the trade?

    • Anonymous

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      Who is going to be our QB?

    • Anonymous

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      I like this a lot.  I love Cooks as our slot guy, we get another offensive weapon in Ebron and quality depth on both lines.  I would have to make the assumption we signed a DE like Allen or Bennett and a CB like Tillman in FA to make this draft work

    • Anonymous

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      Who is going to be our QB?

      mike glennon. what kind of question is that

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      Who was still on the board at 7 when you made the trade?

      Clowney, manziel, bridgewater, Barr, mack, carr were off the boardMatthews was a thought but I didn't think hes enough of an impact guy to take there. I contemplated Watkins but decided to roll the dice and move back. ill take the Ebron and Cooks duo that I ended up being able to get because of the trade over taking just Watkins at 7. don't look at the player that was there, look at the big picture. the trade to get ebron netted me the 3rd pick in the 2nd round, I used that one and moved my other 2 for an extra 3. I basically acquired 3 picks for that one trade. it also allowed me to get high enough to take Yankey before he was off the board. I got cussed out by a couple of pickers that were going to take him before the Bucs original 2nd pick

    • Anonymous

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      I like this a lot.  I love Cooks as our slot guy, we get another offensive weapon in Ebron and quality depth on both lines.  I would have to make the assumption we signed a DE like Allen or Bennett and a CB like Tillman in FA to make this draft work

      yesim assuming we will make moves as well when Free Agency actually opens in a few months. if I was a betting man id place money that one of Greg Hardy, Michael Johnson or Jared Allen is signed by us as well as Tillman. I really wanted a DE in the 2nd but there was just no value where I was picking. I also was looking for a corner to fall but same thing, no value in my slots. I thought about CB in the 4th but Smith rated higher on my board so I went BPA at that point

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      I would have taken Bortles rather than trade

    • Anonymous

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      Not thrilled with it.Ebron/Yankey are nice but beyond that not feeling it.Cooks is intriguing though.

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      I would have taken Bortles rather than trade

      I don't see it with that kid. this qb class isn't very good and I don't even rate him a 1st round prospect. hes a product of a terrible qb class. Derek carr is the same to meif you take Bortles at 7 he still has no weapons or protection. you are going to get him killed

    • Anonymous

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      Not thrilled with it.Ebron/Yankey are nice but beyond that not feeling it.Cooks is intriguing though.

      well what exactly don't you like? this isn't Madden football, you have to address areas of need and that's what this draft doesgo watch Ferguson's tape and tell me you don't think hes a good DT prospect. Marcus Smith is a great value in the 4th. dunno what you aren't thrilled about

    • Anonymous

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      Who knows, there are too many variables.This just listing players picked at a certain spot in the draft stuff means nothing without knowing a ton of other stuff.Who did we sign in FA to lessen needs elsewhere, if we hypothetically got Jimmy Graham (not happening but just saying) that 1st pick is bad.Who was left on the board at #7 when we traded out, if there was one of the better QBs it would be dumb.Who else was left at the point we actually do make the pick, if for some unknown at this time reason a guy like Barr, Watkins, one of the QBs, Clowney, Matthews drops to #17 why did they drop and is it bad enough for us to pass them up for a TE?You can't realistically even start to think of who to draft until at least a week into FA when major holes are plugged and you get some idea of what needs are left.

    • Anonymous

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      Not a fan of any mock that has us taking the only DE in the fourth. Lovie wont trade our 1st unless the offer is just too good and he will pick a trench position. maybe if the positions were reveresed

    • Anonymous

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      Who knows, there are too many variables.This just listing players picked at a certain spot in the draft stuff means nothing without knowing a ton of other stuff.Who did we sign in FA to lessen needs elsewhere, if we hypothetically got Jimmy Graham (not happening but just saying) that 1st pick is bad.Who was left on the board at #7 when we traded out, if there was one of the better QBs it would be dumb.Who else was left at the point we actually do make the pick, if for some unknown at this time reason a guy like Barr, Watkins, one of the QBs, Clowney, Matthews drops to #17 why did they drop and is it bad enough for us to pass them up for a TE?You can't realistically even start to think of who to draft until at least a week into FA when major holes are plugged and you get some idea of what needs are left.

      ok if we get Graham (which will never happen in a million years) then obviously im not picking EbronYou use the term better QBs, I don't like this qb class and what if Tedford and Lovie agree with my line of thinking and decide that Glennon did enough to warrant getting a chance with some help and a coherent OC. newsflash, we probably wont draft a QB this year and will probably bring in a Vet like mcCown to competeBarr, Watkins, Clowney, Matthews wont drop to 17 unless they bomb the medicals and the interviews, not gonna happenyour hypotheticals are so much worse and bigger reaches than minejust grade this class on needs filling and players. don't overanalyze the hell out of it. you guys make a simple question difficult

    • Anonymous

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      Not a fan of any mock that has us taking the only DE in the fourth. Lovie wont trade our 1st unless the offer is just too good and he will pick a trench position.

      read my previous posts. there was no value to be had when I picked. you don't reach on a defensive prospect if the value isn't there. the guy I wanted in the 2nd(Kareem Martin) got pushed to the 3rd when Cooks was still on the board at 63rd overall and I thought hed go in the 40s, Martin was still there at 30th in the 3rd and the Jets picker took him 1 slot from me. that kind of fall tells me that I was right on his value

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      Not a huge fan of the3rd rounder  I understand, but do not agree with, the logic on folks who like Donald as he has elite talent but Fergusin is just getting another guy and we have that. 

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      Not a huge fan of the3rd rounder  I understand, but do not agree with, the logic on folks who like Donald as he has elite talent but Fergusin is just getting another guy and we have that.

      Ferguson is a 2nd round talent and an upgrade on Spence. we basically have 2 DTs on this team right now, McCoy and Spence. anybody after them is pretty much a JAG that needs to be replaced. a rotation of McCoy, Ferguson and Spence is really strong. if it means we don't have Gary Gibson  or Derek Landri in the rotation it makes me that much happier. I don't like relying on guys like them

    • Anonymous

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      I also want to reiterate that this isn’t just a paper mock draft that I came up withthis is a real 32 person mock with 31 other guys making selections. obviously my picks would be different if I had access to every player in the draft but I was constantly having to readjust my board to compensate for players being taken. this wasn't done in a vacuum

    • Anonymous

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      Not a fan of any mock that has us taking the only DE in the fourth. Lovie wont trade our 1st unless the offer is just too good and he will pick a trench position.

      read my previous posts. there was no value to be had when I picked. you don't reach on a defensive prospect if the value isn't there. the guy I wanted in the 2nd(Kareem Martin) got pushed to the 3rd when Cooks was still on the board at 63rd overall and I thought hed go in the 40s, Martin was still there at 30th in the 3rd and the Jets picker took him 1 slot from me. that kind of fall tells me that I was right on his value

      considering u were drafting for value i’d say u hit a homer. I personally would not be upset if we spent our entire draft on position (trench players) so when I saw your mock with a te with the 1st and a DE with the last, my first thought was “fail”.

    • Anonymous

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      Not a huge fan of the3rd rounder  I understand, but do not agree with, the logic on folks who like Donald as he has elite talent but Fergusin is just getting another guy and we have that.

      Ferguson is a 2nd round talent and an upgrade on Spence. we basically have 2 DTs on this team right now, McCoy and Spence. anybody after them is pretty much a JAG that needs to be replaced. a rotation of McCoy, Ferguson and Spence is really strong. if it means we don't have Gary Gibson  or Derek Landri in the rotation it makes me that much happier. I don't like relying on guys like them

      Appreciate you want depth, R3 isn't where I go for depth plus when you scream depth there are other places like CB, WR, DE where our depth or worse.Landri isn't an awful backup, he's played that role before in this league and can manage it. While we have zero depth at many other spots.

    • Anonymous

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      I’d be pleased with the first 3 picks.Rounds 3 and 4 idk, but idk what your options were either

    • Anonymous

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      The Bucs TE position is like our qb position, we need solid veteran experience to pair with the high potential rookies at those positions. We Need Oline/Dline help. If we can pick up solid veteran experience in the trenches, I could see the draft board changing.

    • Anonymous

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      Not a huge fan of the3rd rounder  I understand, but do not agree with, the logic on folks who like Donald as he has elite talent but Fergusin is just getting another guy and we have that.

      Ferguson is a 2nd round talent and an upgrade on Spence. we basically have 2 DTs on this team right now, McCoy and Spence. anybody after them is pretty much a JAG that needs to be replaced. a rotation of McCoy, Ferguson and Spence is really strong. if it means we don't have Gary Gibson  or Derek Landri in the rotation it makes me that much happier. I don't like relying on guys like them

      Appreciate you want depth, R3 isn't where I go for depth plus when you scream depth there are other places like CB, WR, DE where our depth or worse.Landri isn't an awful backup, he's played that role before in this league and can manage it. While we have zero depth at many other spots.

      Ferguson is starter talent that got pushed down because of other players being taken, there were some massive jerry jones style overdrafts like Jarvis Landry and Odell beckham both going in the 1st round and a few others. I already addressed WR and I think a receiving corps of Vjax, MWill, Cooks, and Underwood is pretty solid. I looked at CB but there wasn't anyone available that rated highly enough for me to take in the 3rd or 4th especially over the two players I took

    • Anonymous

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      The Bucs TE position is like our qb position, we need solid veteran experience to pair with the high potential rookies at those positions. We Need Oline/Dline help. If we can pick up solid veteran experience in the trenches, I could see the draft board changing.

      that's why I got 1 rookie that can come in and start and im hoping we can pick up a guy like alex mack or someone like that that is a plug and play in FA

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      I'd be pleased with the first 3 picks.Rounds 3 and 4 idk, but idk what your options were either

      those were honestly the best players available when I chose. there were a couple other guys there but id already hit those positions and we didn't need to double up on themwhen I picked Cooks at the end of the 2nd you should have seen how many people started cussing me out and cussing themselves for forgetting him, same with Ferguson

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      I'd be pleased with the first 3 picks.Rounds 3 and 4 idk, but idk what your options were either

      those were honestly the best players available when I chose. there were a couple other guys there but id already hit those positions and we didn't need to double up on themwhen I picked Cooks at the end of the 2nd you should have seen how many people started cussing me out and cussing themselves for forgetting him, same with Ferguson

      when did Jimmy G go?

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      Trades I executedTraded #7 overall for #17 plus #34Traded #38 (Bucs original 2nd) for 31st pick in the 2nd and 31st pick in the 3rdGained an extra 2 and a 3Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford2nd - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State3rd - Ego Ferguson DT LSU4th - Marcus Smith DE Louisville

      Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - Kelvin Benjamin WR FSU2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford3rd - Dee Ford DE Auburn 4th - Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois

    • Anonymous

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      love it dex,if we had that kind of draft + J.Allen in FA - I think we'd be set

    • Anonymous

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      Trades I executedTraded #7 overall for #17 plus #34Traded #38 (Bucs original 2nd) for 31st pick in the 2nd and 31st pick in the 3rdGained an extra 2 and a 3Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford2nd - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State3rd - Ego Ferguson DT LSU4th - Marcus Smith DE Louisville

      Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - Kelvin Benjamin WR FSU2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford3rd - Dee Ford DE Auburn 4th - Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois

      yep you didn't read the OP since this was a real actual draftKB was gone in the 1st. Dee Ford went early 2nd Garoppolo was gone in the 3rd Yankey wouldn't have been there at 62this post exemplifies why everyone on here is bitching about the draft I put up. if you don't read how it actually worked you don't understand the picks. Jesus

    • Anonymous

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      I'd be pleased with the first 3 picks.Rounds 3 and 4 idk, but idk what your options were either

      those were honestly the best players available when I chose. there were a couple other guys there but id already hit those positions and we didn't need to double up on themwhen I picked Cooks at the end of the 2nd you should have seen how many people started cussing me out and cussing themselves for forgetting him, same with Ferguson

      when did Jimmy G go?

      in the 3rd at some point IIRC before my 3rd round pick. to quantify this was before the Senior Bowl was played and obviously before the Combine. im still not sold on him yet to be willing to spend a 3rd on him. he was only OK at the Senior Bowl

    • Anonymous

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      Im doing a user mock draft on another website and I have the Bucs. We are doing a full 4 round mock right now and ive just completed my selections. How would you guys feel if this is how our first 4 rounds went? We allowed trades and movements.Trades I executedTraded #7 overall for #17 plus #34Traded #38 (Bucs original 2nd) for 31st pick in the 2nd and 31st pick in the 3rdGained an extra 2 and a 3Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford2nd - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State3rd - Ego Ferguson DT LSU4th - Marcus Smith DE LouisvilleI personally would be thrilled with this. I think it addresses our major needs and when combined with Free Agency can get us back to where we need to be. I wanted to get a DE earlier but there really wasn't any value when I came on the clock and I lost my target in the 3rd when someone traded 1 spot in front of me to take him. All in all it gets us a replacement at RT or OG, a playmaker in the slot, a major mismatch TE, 2 very good DL depth players than can easily develop into starters

      Yankey and Cooks are great picks. Ebron isn’t my favorite TE prospect as he doesn’t have the height you look for in the red zone. I would go ASJ there.

    • Anonymous

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      Im doing a user mock draft on another website and I have the Bucs. We are doing a full 4 round mock right now and ive just completed my selections. How would you guys feel if this is how our first 4 rounds went? We allowed trades and movements.Trades I executedTraded #7 overall for #17 plus #34Traded #38 (Bucs original 2nd) for 31st pick in the 2nd and 31st pick in the 3rdGained an extra 2 and a 3Selections1st - Eric Ebron TE UNC2nd - David Yankey OG/OT Stanford2nd - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State3rd - Ego Ferguson DT LSU4th - Marcus Smith DE LouisvilleI personally would be thrilled with this. I think it addresses our major needs and when combined with Free Agency can get us back to where we need to be. I wanted to get a DE earlier but there really wasn't any value when I came on the clock and I lost my target in the 3rd when someone traded 1 spot in front of me to take him. All in all it gets us a replacement at RT or OG, a playmaker in the slot, a major mismatch TE, 2 very good DL depth players than can easily develop into starters

      Yankey and Cooks are great picks. Ebron isn't my favorite TE prospect as he doesn't have the height you look for in the red zone. I would go ASJ there.

      yeah it all comes down to preference but TE was the pick. I went with the biggest mismatch TE on the board and that was Ebron. the Combine will change some minds as well and ASJ's off field concerns will get discussed in the interview phase