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      Buccaneers have NFL's lightest front seven By Sander Philipse?@Sanderrp Jun 24  2014    11:35pmlight_zpsacfbce61.pngKim Klement-US PRESSWIREThe Tampa Bay Buccaneers are back where they were ten years ago: with one of the lightest defensive front sevens in the NFL. A matter of philosophy and policy, not just a coincidence. According to Jimmy Kempski of Philly.com, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers boast the second-lightest front-seven in the NFL. The lightest being the fellow Tampa-2 acolytes: Monte Kiffin and Rod Marinelli's crew over in Dallas. df8a580a-67ef-4072-b5a9-c3f2ce8dd946_zpsdfe1e733.gifa9f8c3ad-df84-4797-b726-87cfcb54044a_zps5c273ccb.gifKempski even slightly overestimates the Bucs' weight. He uses the OurLads' depth chart, which has Akeem Spence as the starter at nose tackle. If instead they'd taken Clinton McDonald as the starting nose tackle, which seems likely, the Bucs would come in at 1,828 pounds -- seven pounds lighter than the Dallas Cowboys. Yay! The Bucs have the lightest front seven in the NFL! What do the win? Lovie Smith's answer would be 'speed', which is what his defense is built around. Size isn't important for the Tampa 2 coaches. The ability to get to the ball, to disrupt an offensive line's blocking scheme, and to get into the backfield off the snap are what matters. This core philosophy was lost when Mark Dominik took over as the team's general manager. While the Bucs were still fairly light under Raheem Morris and Greg Schiano, Dominik consistently tried to get bigger on defense, although this was mostly felt in the secondary. Kempski's projections last year had the Bucs as the 24th-heaviest team in the NFL. Still not exactly heavy, but it's a step up from where they are now. That speed on defense should allow the Bucs to get to the passer, and get to him quickly. Under Lovie Smith, the Bears notched fewer than 30 sacks just once, and they managed 40+ sacks three times. Under Dominik's "bigger is better" program, the Bucs managed 30+ sacks all of once (in 2013), with 2011's 22 sacks as an absurd low point. The conventional wisdom is that smaller front sevens lead to worse run defenses. And the Bucs have kind of demonstrated that in the past. Even their most dominant defenses under Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin were always worse against the run than they were against the pass. And Kempski notes that there appears to be very little correlation between the size of a defense's front seven and its run-stopping ability. So prepare for a new day in Tampa. One of pass-rushing and run-stopping built on speed. A defense that will be fun to watch, and one that will actually get after the passer. I wonder what that will look like. I seem to have forgotten.link

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          Tampa 2 philosophy: stop the run on the way to the QB. Speed in space everywhere there's a Pewter uniform; love it!

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      Back to the Future

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          Tampa 2 philosophy: stop the run on the way to the QB. Speed in space everywhere there's a Pewter uniform; love it!

      +1We've had success with a light dline before so I'm not worried about the collective weight but man is this one of the dumbest stats ever. Youre taking the collective weight of the starting front 4 and not considering rotational dlinemen or other defenders assigned to bum rush the online. It is the off-season though

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      Seems like a pretty pointless study when all the 3-4 teams are at the top and all the 4-3 teams are at the bottom.

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      It’s the off season. No more topics to write about, they are really reaching

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      Probably more about skill than size, but that’s stating the extreme obvious. Teams with more skill on defense usually allow less yards and points.

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          Tampa 2 philosophy: stop the run on the way to the QB. Speed in space everywhere there's a Pewter uniform; love it!

      Me? Not so much.  I still remember when the easiest way to beat the T2 was running up the gut.  On 3rd down no less.

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      Speaking of “bigger is better” , look how dumb the tiny stickers on these helmets already look compared to the new :light_zpsacfbce61.png

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    • Anonymous

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      Lightest line in nfl…Yet! Few or no opponents will commit to pounding the run. Can't wait to see this defense hummin

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          Tampa 2 philosophy: stop the run on the way to the QB. Speed in space everywhere there's a Pewter uniform; love it!

      Me? Not so much.  I still remember when the easiest way to beat the T2 was running up the gut.  On 3rd down no less.

      Then apparently you dislike good defense.During the Tampa Two era ('96-'08) - the Bucs defensive rankings were:96: 8 (pts), 11 (yds)97: 2 (pts), 3 (yds)98: 5 (pts), 2 (yds)99: 3 (pts), 3 (yds)00: 7 (pts), 9 (yds)01: 8 (pts), 6 (yds)02: 1 (pts), 1 (yds)03: 4 (pts), 5 (yds)04: 9 (pts), 5 (yds)05: 8 (pts), 1 (yds)06: 21 (pts), 17 (yds)07: 3 (pts), 2 (yds)08: 10 (pts), 9 (yds)Since the Bucs left Tampa Two - they haven't ranked higher than 17th. So stopping the run on the way to the quarterback has been a pretty good philosphy around these parts.

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      So stopping the run on the way to the quarterback has been a pretty good philosphy around these parts.

      The word philosophy has been thoroughly ruined for me...

      When you start talking about our core fundamental philosophy, you're talking about the team's philosophy about core fundamentals and we have to fundamentally find ourselves to understand the philosophy rests in our inner core. You're talking about lining up on the field with the core members of our secondary in our fundamental packages, because that's our defensive philosophy. We're going take our pants off, bend over and take the quarterback, that's the Tampa way. When you're talking about Gerald McCoy, you're talking about a big, physical guy. When you're talking about Mason Foster, you're talking about a guy who likes hot pockets, and I like hot pockets, and the fans like hot pockets. We learn that hot pockets when put in the microwave, are very hot. But... in order to get hot, you have to first turn the microwave on. That's what we need to do here in Tampa, we need to turn on our microwave.

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      150 lbs between dline guys  from heaviest to lightest lines is nothing.  3-4 and 4-3 alignments make a big difference and is an apples to oranges comparison.8 of the 10 heaviest teams are 3-4 (Chicago and Philly are the exceptions)  Probably why this Philly writer wrote the article...8 of the 10 lightest teams are 4-3 (San Francisco and Indianapolis are the exceptions)The 16 'middle weights' are  4 x 3-4    12 - 4-3  14 teams are 3-4 (or are shifting to it)  18 Teams are 4-3NY Jets 3 - 4 1Baltimore 3 - 4 2Kansas City 3 - 4 3Cleveland 3 - 4 4Green Bay 3 - 4 5Houston 3 - 4 6Philadelphia 4 - 3 7Washington 3 - 4 8Arizona 3 - 4 9Chicago 4 - 3 10San Diego 3 - 4 11New Orleans 3 - 4 12Atlanta 4 - 3 13Jacksonville 4 - 3 14Denver 4 - 3 15New England 4 - 3 16Minnesota 4 - 3 17Buffalo 3 - 4 18Cincinnati 4 - 3 19Pittsburgh 3 - 4 20Oakland 4 - 3 21Carolina 4 - 3 22NY Giants 4 - 3 23Miami 4 - 3 24San Francisco 3 - 4 25St Louis 4 - 3 26Seattle 4 - 3 27Detroit 4 - 3 28Indianapolis 3 - 4 29Tennessee 4 - 3 30Tampa Bay 4 - 3 31Dallas 4 - 3 32

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      The system also has to match up with the guys that are playing. We’ve seen other teams in “transition” from the 43 to the 34 not have all their players yet, and fail because of it. In other cases, you have “creative” coaches like schiano, who play them against their singular strengths in favor of unified team strength.Lovie is smack dab in the middle of those mindsets, which is not bad. He wants speed up front to force the qb to throw when he's not ready. Not a damn thing wrong with that in my book. That defense was our livelihood, so going back to some form of it is definitely comforting to me.Regardless, lovie will have a better defense fielded by the time we start RS. He will let them play to their strengths, they will respect him, and most importantly, he will have a system in place that isn't "guesswork," or any form of "OJT." I

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