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Shifted inside to tackle, is Will Gholston on Bucs' bubble?Greg Auman, Times Staff Writer Wednesday, August 12, 2015
As the Bucs seek more production rushing the passer from outside, William Gholston, right, has shifted inside to defensive tackle. AP photoA year ago, Will Gholston started nine games at defensive end for the Bucs, tying for third on the team with nine tackles for loss in his second NFL season. But as the team seeks more production rushing the passer from outside, Gholston has shifted inside to defensive tackle, where talented depth could put the former fourth-round pick on the bubble to make the Bucs' final 53-man roster."If you are a true rush player, we have you here for that reason," coach Lovie Smith said Tuesday, asked whether Gholston was an end or a tackle. "The rest of the guys need to have some flexibility on where they play. But Will, for the most part, (is a) three-technique, maybe a little first-down defensive end."Gholston is still just 24, younger than second-year pro Jacquies Smith, who took over as a starting defensive end last year and should open this season as a starter, opposite new addition George Johnson. His strength in his two NFL seasons has been as a run-stopper, much more than a pass-rusher -- he had just two sacks last year -- half as many as the since-released Michael Johnson -- in 546 snaps. After getting a sack in his first game against the Rams, he didn't tackle a quarterback (for a loss or gain) until Week 14 against the Lions. Making matters worse, Gholston led all Bucs defensive players with 54 yards in penalties, resulting in a team-high four first downs for opponents.Gholston's production fell off dramatically after he lost his starting job -- he had 31 tackles in his first seven games, but just 11 in his final eight, and five of those came in a homecoming game in his native Detroit. In three of his final five games in 2014 -- against the Bengals, Panthers and Packers -- he failed to record a single tackle, in a combined 75 snaps.Especially with the Bucs' signing of ex-Seahawks starter Tony McDaniel, their depth at defensive tackle is stronger than at end, with Gerald McCoy, Clinton McDonald, Henry Melton and McDaniel locks to make the opening roster. Even with Akeem Spence out due to injury at the start of the season, that leaves Gholston and Da'Quan Bowers as converted ends trying to make the squad as a fifth defensive tackle.The Bucs likely will change how they stock their roster with defensive linemen -- last year, they opened the season with nine total -- six defensive ends (including Bowers and Gholston, who would slide inside as needed) and only three true defensive tackles, with a combined seven dressing for the season opener. After losing McCoy to injury, they finished the year with 10 linemen, dressing and playing nine in the season finale.The final defensive end jobs are very much up for grabs -- after starters Smith and Johnson, there are no guarantees, though T.J. Fatinikun and Larry English would likely be the next two, based on how they're lining up in training camp. That leaves veteran Lawrence Sidbury -- who has two tackles in the last three NFL seasons -- and undrafted rookies Ryan Delaire and Jamal Young, and the possiblility that the Bucs would add a player waived elsewhere during final cuts, taking advantage of their priority position in waiver claims.
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 1:44 pmPost count: 8044just as much of a headscratcher as sterling moore. all offseason reports said he has been cutting massive weight in order to be lighter/quicker. now hes moved back inside? we sign a probowl backup UT, our NT has the talent to slide over to UT, and now we move gholston inside? in a time when all our other DEs are undersized?odd.
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 1:53 pmPost count: 11045He’s not going to make the team IMO. I think he may make it to the last cuts but then we bring someone at DE in via waiver claim or a vet thats been released.Having that first waiver claim is going to be huge for us in the next few weeks.
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 4:40 pmPost count: 2697Nope…he’s versatile, can play both inside and outside….Shutdowns the run on the left side...
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 4:49 pmPost count: 3392He’s in real trouble.
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 5:12 pmPost count: 1828who are our backup DEs? I would think he’s near the top of that list. Don’t see how we can cut him, or even move him inside
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 7:08 pmPost count: 1025He’s a tweener has a spot in the league but I don’t think he’s gonna make it over any of our dt’sI guess they disqualified him for that 4th end spot Sidbury, and English are fighting for it now, and maybe a surprise from Jamal Young or Delaire our UDFA
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 7:13 pmPost count: 2445who are our backup DEs? I would think he's near the top of that list. Don't see how we can cut him, or even move him inside
From things i read, ive gotten the impression that he hasnt looked very good. TJ Fatinuwhatever and Larry English may have surpassed him.
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 7:30 pmPost count: 3392He's a tweener has a spot in the league but I don't think he's gonna make it over any of our dt'sI guess they disqualified him for that 4th end spot Sidbury, and English are fighting for it now, and maybe a surprise from Jamal Young or Delaire our UDFA
My guess as well.
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InactiveAug. 13, 2015 at 7:56 pmPost count: 855With his size, he’d probably better off in a 3-4 as an end. Guy was never going to provide that quick rush off the edge. Its a shame because the physical tools are there for him to at least be a power rusher but I guess that ain’t there for him.He is gone
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He’ll make the roster as the 5th DT. He offers some versatility as a 1st down DE also. 4-3 teams usually carry 9-10 D-lineman on the 53, and dress 8-9 on gameday. That final roster spot will come down to Gholston or Bowers imo...
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InactiveAug. 14, 2015 at 12:32 pmPost count: 1828He'll make the roster as the 5th DT. He offers some versatility as a 1st down DE also. 4-3 teams usually carry 9-10 D-lineman on the 53, and dress 8-9 on gameday. That final roster spot will come down to Gholston or Bowers imo...
Bowers isn't beating out ANYONE for a roster spot
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InactiveAug. 14, 2015 at 1:42 pmPost count: 2090The Force?!
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InactiveAug. 14, 2015 at 4:41 pmPost count: 3392He'll make the roster as the 5th DT. He offers some versatility as a 1st down DE also. 4-3 teams usually carry 9-10 D-lineman on the 53, and dress 8-9 on gameday. That final roster spot will come down to Gholston or Bowers imo...
You might want to check your math. Opening day 2014 we had 8 DL on the 53-man roster and dressed 6 - Clayborn, McCoy, McDonald, Johnson, Spence, Means. Gholston and Bowers were inactive.
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InactiveAug. 14, 2015 at 4:42 pmPost count: 4274He'll make the roster as the 5th DT. He offers some versatility as a 1st down DE also. 4-3 teams usually carry 9-10 D-lineman on the 53, and dress 8-9 on gameday. That final roster spot will come down to Gholston or Bowers imo...
Gholston is ahead of Bowers on the newly released depth chart.
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InactiveAug. 15, 2015 at 12:47 amPost count: 10626He's in real trouble.
This ^^^^
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