Joe Haden on the block

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  • #1021653
    Easythe great
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    The Bucs should trade a 3rd or 4th rounder in the 2019 draft for this guy..

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    Bucs fan from Texas.. FIRE THE CANNONS!!!

    #1021659
    freddy
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    I think he would command much more than a 3rd or 4th.

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    #1021661
    Live4BUCS
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    I don’t think he’s worth more then a 4th. When was the last time he was talked about as one of the best? 2011? Also factor in his contract…. I’d give him a 4th at most.

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    #1021665
    naturalselection
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    Yeah, 14.4 mil in 18 and 10.9 in 19. I would not give up a 4th to take on his contract.

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    #1021669
    Alldaway 2.0
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    Pass.

    Pass rush is king in the NFL.

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    Build the trenches!

    #1021672
    Pepsi
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    yea nothing more important than pass rush for us right now. If our pass rush is below average, then Haden wouldnt bring much value to us. VHG3 played very well for us in preseason, yet Kizer lit us up.

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    #1021699
    1bucfanjeff
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    4th, maybe a 3rd, and Browns take on some of the salary. He can always be cut no strings attached.

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    #1021701
    welzboy409
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    I think grimes slides over to nickle and finish’s out his career there with maybe two more years and we make this trade happen no more than a 3rd. If youve been watching hard knocks youll see we are surprisingly thin at DB as well as the line.

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    #1021719
    freddy
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    If they are shopping everyone, we should ask about Joe Thomas

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    #1021726
    Cerious
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    @Pepsi

    Conversely, if our pass rush isn’t generating pressure we would want to put the best pass defense we can put together on the field. So yeah, pass defense would be the next best thing if not as important as pass rushers. There used to be this thing called coverage sacks, lol. Coverage was half the reason why our defense was so dominate two decades ago.

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    #1021739
    Pepsi
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    Cerious
    Aug 29, 17 at 3:01 pm #1021726
    @pepsi

    Conversely, if our pass rush isn’t generating pressure we would want to put the best pass defense we can put together on the field. So yeah, pass defense would be the next best thing if not as important as pass rushers. There used to be this thing called coverage sacks, lol. Coverage was half the reason why our defense was so dominate two decades ago

    It just doesnt work like that. Good coverage doesnt make up for a non existent pass rush. its a myth or at best an major exception. I was on the red board years ago telling everyone that Talib is our best defensive player and one of the best corners in the league, while the majority were saying hes just above average and not worth the potential trouble. Why did he appear just above average for us? because we had no passrush – effectively reducing his value to us. As soon as he went to teams that had pass rush he shot up to national recognition as a top corner in the league.

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    #1021746
    1bucfanjeff
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    He’s still a pretty good talent. Price tag is the only issue.

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    #1021748
    Buc 1976
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    IMO not worth it

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    #1021749
    Anonymous
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    No pass rush means he is toast out there. Unless his last name is Sanders or Woodson, I don’t want to hear about corners anymore. Fricken Revis. Ugh.

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    #1021752
    Bucpride5
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    Stupid post

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    2016, can't be worse than Lovie's first year, right...

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