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    • JDouble

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    • Anonymous

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      He’s an idiot.  Good pr move though.

    • GARCIAFAN

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      He gets paid so well because so many people are interested in what he does. He takes the money and then resents the fact that so many people are interested in what he does. Get a job at fry cook, a-hole, and then no one will notice you anymore.

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      A great and just response to those the letter was directed to. He admits he made mistakes and intends to make amends. For anyone who can't understand that, you are the idiots. Everyone has wanted or needed second or even third chances. It is always interesting to see who "the public" likes to give those to and who they don't. Even more accurate is Gordon's harpooning of the NFL's hypocrisy when it comes to alcohol. I just say bravo and I hope he gets everything together and gets back on the field because he is a true talent.

    • Anonymous

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      There plenty of people, myself included, that grew up under less than ideal conditions. I too was raised without a dad in the house, can remember many days coming home to no lights/water. Not once did i turn to stealing/drugs or any of that ilk. I busted my ass to have nice shlt and to make sure my kids grew up in a better environment. The guy is an idiot and excuse maker and i agree with Steven A.http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/29/stephen-a-smith-fires-back-at-josh-gordon/

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      On my feet clapping for Josh Gordon.Sounds like a bright young man.  Glad to hear he is taking responsibility for his actions that allowed him to be put in this position.  Hope he comes out the other side a Buccaneer.  He would compliment Mike perfectly.  They would be amazing together for a good young QB.

    • mfitzpatrick

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      There plenty of people, myself included, that grew up under less than ideal conditions. I too was raised without a dad in the house, can remember many days coming home to no lights/water. Not once did i turn to stealing/drugs or any of that ilk. I busted my ass to have nice shlt and to make sure my kids grew up in a better environment. The guy is an idiot and excuse maker and i agree with Steven A.http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/29/stephen-a-smith-fires-back-at-josh-gordon/

      I agree and grew up similar  ..these guys get paid Lotto money to play a game most of us played all the way up to high school for free ...Be high on life !

    • Anonymous

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      There plenty of people, myself included, that grew up under less than ideal conditions. I too was raised without a dad in the house, can remember many days coming home to no lights/water. Not once did i turn to stealing/drugs or any of that ilk. I busted my ass to have nice shlt and to make sure my kids grew up in a better environment. The guy is an idiot and excuse maker and i agree with Steven A.http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/29/stephen-a-smith-fires-back-at-josh-gordon/

      What a blow hard.  Josh deserves scorn because he has failed the black community?  All the stupid shit Stephen A has said over the years that has gotten him reprimanded (hasn't he gotten multiple TV "timeouts"?).  Its a good thing ESPN doesn't have a cumulative punishment policy similar to the NFL.  Or Stephen might have found himself in a similar position.  Throwing away those opportunities and disappointing folks.

    • Anonymous

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      .  Glad to hear he is taking responsibility for his actions that allowed him to be put in this position. 

      How is he taking responsibility?

    • Anonymous

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      A great and just response to those the letter was directed to. He admits he made mistakes and intends to make amends. For anyone who can't understand that, you are the idiots. Everyone has wanted or needed second or even third chances.

      words are easy, actions a little more difficult.And everyone has not needed all the chances he gets.

    • Anonymous

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      .  Glad to hear he is taking responsibility for his actions that allowed him to be put in this position. 

      How is he taking responsibility?

      In written form.  Did you read the letter?

    • Anonymous

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      …on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

    • Anonymous

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

    • Anonymous

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      .  Glad to hear he is taking responsibility for his actions that allowed him to be put in this position. 

      How is he taking responsibility?

      In written form.  Did you read the letter?

      hes taken the responsibility of having a pr guy write a letter?  Wowsers.  He’s been apologizing for years now.  This time it’s differerent, right?

    • Anonymous

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      .  Glad to hear he is taking responsibility for his actions that allowed him to be put in this position. 

      How is he taking responsibility?

      In written form.  Did you read the letter?

      hes taken the responsibility of having a pr guy write a letter?  Wowsers.  He's been apologizing for years now.  This time it's differerent, right?

      That didn't read as a PR firm crafted statement.  Would be very surprised to find Josh didn't pen that.Is it bad to apologize when you make a mistake?  I don't know if anything is different now or not.  I don't really care either tbh.  He is not violent.  He is not a malcontent.  He will not require an investment that would hurt us should things not turn out different.  I hope we can get a shot at signing him.

    • Anonymous

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      There’s little reason to pay any attention to Josh Gordon. Not until the guy starts being honest with himself.

    • Anonymous

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      Hope this guy gets his life together.

    • Anonymous

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Ya, that is weak.

    • Anonymous

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      There plenty of people, myself included, that grew up under less than ideal conditions. I too was raised without a dad in the house, can remember many days coming home to no lights/water. Not once did i turn to stealing/drugs or any of that ilk. I busted my ass to have nice shlt and to make sure my kids grew up in a better environment. The guy is an idiot and excuse maker and i agree with Steven A.

      Good stuff. Just think of all the little kids that idolized him. Oh well, the Odell bandwagon just got a lot of new passengers.

    • Anonymous

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      It sounded EXACTLY as if written by a PR firm. 

    • Anonymous

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      .  Glad to hear he is taking responsibility for his actions that allowed him to be put in this position. 

      How is he taking responsibility?

      He's not. He's making excuses.

    • Anonymous

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

    • Anonymous

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      What i would like to see is the NFL start permanently banning players who break the rules. A 1 strike rule should be in place when it comes to any act of violence or anything that would lead to a guilty verdict in a court of law. Players should be banned for life if they don’t want to fallow the rules. Many of the 500 other free agents would love to be on these rosters and would be willing to put every effort toward playing football and not being an idiot off the field. With so many substance issues it should be a 2 strike rule in which its a 4 game band then the 2nd time being your done completely. The fans and children that look up to athletes want to see people doing good on and off the field. There are so many other players that could fill the roles that these players take for granted.

    • Anonymous

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

    • GARCIAFAN

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        “I will say, I don’t think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.” That's not accurate. Personally, I've never known anyone "addicted" to marihuana, and I have my doubts that it's even possible. I've known plenty of people addicted to other drugs though, and a lot of them aren't daily users. If intravenous addicts are using daily, it's likely that they're on the tail end of their addiction and close to death. Even just looking at alcoholics, many of them have to have it every day or they get the shakes. But there are also plenty of them who are binge drinkers. They may even go a few weeks without a drink at all, and then they slug a pint and it is on. Keep in mind, a lot of so-called addicts are actually self medicating. Take away their medication and what you see is the underlying condition laid bare.

    • Anonymous

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      Personally, I've never known anyone "addicted" to marihuana, and I have my doubts that it's even possible.

      While marijuana isn't inherently addictive like tobacco, heroine, or caffeine....people can have addictions to just about anything. Food. Gambling. Soda. Sex. Porn. Exercise. Anything.

    • mfitzpatrick

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      Personally, I've never known anyone "addicted" to marihuana, and I have my doubts that it's even possible.

      While marijuana isn't inherently addictive like tobacco, heroine, or caffeine....people can have addictions to just about anything. Food. Gambling. Soda. Sex. Porn. Exercise. Anything.

      I agree . I went to Denver for Christmas and i gotta say it was a different experience and not a good one when you have small kids and they keep asking 'whats thats smell" .

    • Anonymous

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      Personally, I've never known anyone "addicted" to marihuana, and I have my doubts that it's even possible.

      While marijuana isn't inherently addictive like tobacco, heroine, or caffeine....people can have addictions to just about anything. Food. Gambling. Soda. Sex. Porn. Exercise. Anything.

      I agree . I went to Denver for Christmas and i gotta say it was a different experience and not a good one when you have small kids and they keep asking 'whats thats smell" .

      I'm not sure what your comment is suppose to mean, but I don't think we agree. Marijuana is one of the best natural erbs on the planet and should be used regularly world wide. It shouldn't be smoked around children though and like anything else in this world, it can be abused.

    • mfitzpatrick

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      Personally, I've never known anyone "addicted" to marihuana, and I have my doubts that it's even possible.

      While marijuana isn't inherently addictive like tobacco, heroine, or caffeine....people can have addictions to just about anything. Food. Gambling. Soda. Sex. Porn. Exercise. Anything.

      I agree . I went to Denver for Christmas and i gotta say it was a different experience and not a good one when you have small kids and they keep asking 'whats thats smell" .

      I'm not sure what your comment is suppose to mean, but I don't think we agree. Marijuana is one of the best natural erbs on the planet and should be used regularly world wide. It shouldn't be smoked around children though and like anything else in this world, it can be abused.

      My comment means i dont think it should be smoked around children , i could care less what you do in the privacy of your own home ...I had a family member that smoked everyday they could ,so my opinion is it can be addictive like anything else but i think we should be able to do what we want as far as freewill .

    • GARCIAFAN

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      I believe he is referencing the legal status of Christmas green in Colorado. They sell some damned fine weed there (and candy, and oil, and patches, and every other thing you can think of). Anyway, many of the types of “addicts” you are citing are seeking relief from specific anxieties. Their problem is what they’re running away from, not the crutch they’re using to avoid thinking about it, and the first step to getting better is recognizing that. Marijuana is an outstanding anxiety medication, but it ain't making the drug companies any money.

    • mfitzpatrick

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      I believe he is referencing the legal status of Christmas green in Colorado. They sell some damned fine weed there (and candy, and oil, and patches, and every other thing you can think of). Anyway, many of the types of "addicts" you are citing are seeking relief from specific anxieties. Their problem is what they're running away from, not the crutch they're using to avoid thinking about it, and the first step to getting better is recognizing that. Marijuana is an outstanding anxiety medication, but it ain't making the drug companies no money.

      You are Correct on many levels , I have never even smoked a cigarette but to each his own and i would never pass judgement because you name a steroid and  probably passed though my liver in my 20's  and i have a drink from time to time and we all know  the issues with alcohol trump weed  .

    • Anonymous

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      Marijuana has many proven medical benefits though. The THC has the side effect of making you high, but they are taking that out now and still providing the amazing natural herbal benefits of the hemp plant. The THC is the part that can be abused, but it less addictive than sugar.

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

    • Anonymous

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      That is a pretty damned good yardstick Hate…

    • Anonymous

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      That is a pretty damned good yardstick Hate...

      It is the damned truth.If the Million Dollar Boys Club says wear your game worn underwear or jocks over your head during pressers, I would be doing just that.Their rules, their club.Don't like it?  Go play in Canada.  Or Arena League.  Or in the parking lots with Lawrence Phillips, and afterwards you can run the kids over like Suge Knight.

    • Anonymous

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      The value of the club is in excess of 9 billion – incredible isn’t it.  And the commish is shooting for 25 Billion by 2025

    • Anonymous

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      A great and just response to those the letter was directed to. He admits he made mistakes and intends to make amends. For anyone who can't understand that, you are the idiots. Everyone has wanted or needed second or even third chances.

      words are easy, actions a little more difficult.And everyone has not needed all the chances he gets.

      Actions are more difficult yes but how about giving the kid a chance to see if he can change his life around. He's young and everyone is entitled to a shot to clean things up. I remember Cris Carter getting that second chance after his alcohol issues and things worked out well for him. Gordon deserves the same chance. As far as everyone not needing all the chances? You are right, some people won the situation sweepstakes and ended up in circumstances that were pretty dang easy and no other chances would have been necessary. But if we are talking about the USA, the chances to make amends are always there even for those who supposedly don't need it. Don't hate because some people need to push an available reset button when others don't.

    • GARCIAFAN

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      “Don’t like it?  Go play in Canada.  Or Arena League.  Or in the parking lots with Lawrence Phillips, and afterwards you can run the kids over like Suge Knight.” Phillips ran three kids over in a stolen car after losing a pickup game. Was sentenced to ten years for it.

    • Anonymous

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      "Don't like it?  Go play in Canada.  Or Arena League.  Or in the parking lots with Lawrence Phillips, and afterwards you can run the kids over like Suge Knight." Phillips ran three kids over in a stolen car after losing a pickup game. Was sentenced to ten years for it.

      Hence the reference. He is out by now, no?  Penal League?  Penal. In other words, don't be Josh Gordon, which is my new catchphrase for "big farking dummy".

    • Anonymous

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      Actions are more difficult yes but how about giving the kid a chance to see if he can change his life around. He's young and everyone is entitled to a shot to clean things up. I remember Cris Carter getting that second chance after his alcohol issues and things worked out well for him. Gordon deserves the same chance. As far as everyone not needing all the chances? You are right, some people won the situation sweepstakes and ended up in circumstances that were pretty dang easy and no other chances would have been necessary. But if we are talking about the USA, the chances to make amends are always there even for those who supposedly don't need it. Don't hate because some people need to push an available reset button when others don't.

      hate?  Nah, that’s reseverved for folks like miko. Apathetic maybe.  Keep us posted how he’s doing.I do agree idiots can turn their lives around.  Just look at the success stories of guys like josh freeman and that safety from Syracuse

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

      +1Honestly, the whole letter is just full of excuses. It's like he's trying to take responsibility for it but at the same time is making excuses.

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

      +1Honestly, the whole letter is just full of excuses. It's like he's trying to take responsibility for it but at the same time is making excuses.

      I doubt he wrote it. That is what agents are for.

    • Anonymous

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      I doubt he actually wrote that but if he did, he has a career as a writer when his NFL days are over.

    • Anonymous

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

      +1Honestly, the whole letter is just full of excuses. It's like he's trying to take responsibility for it but at the same time is making excuses.

      I doubt he wrote it. That is what agents are for.

      He definitely didn't write it lol have you seen him in interviews?

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

      +1Honestly, the whole letter is just full of excuses. It's like he's trying to take responsibility for it but at the same time is making excuses.

      I doubt he wrote it. That is what agents are for.

      He definitely didn't write it lol have you seen him in interviews?

      Yes I have, but I didn't want to bad mouth him too bad, because I like him as a player.  I hope he can get his personal life together, he is a huge talent.

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

      +1Honestly, the whole letter is just full of excuses. It's like he's trying to take responsibility for it but at the same time is making excuses.

      I doubt he wrote it. That is what agents are for.

      He definitely didn't write it lol have you seen him in interviews?

      Yes I have, but I didn't want to bad mouth him too bad, because I like him as a player.  I hope he can get his personal life together, he is a huge talent.

      I live in Northeast Ohio (Akron) and we have been saying that for years. Has the potential to be elite but doesn't have the head for it right now.

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      ...on account of my inadvertently inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke last offseason.Really?

      Well if the league handled drug investigations as they have deflategate they would have to be able to prove conclusively that it was Josh who put that marijuana smoke in his body.

      Assuming you buy that lame ass excuse, why is he sitting around with guy/guys smoking weed?

      I was being a smart ass.I will say, I don't think you can call someone a drug addict if they are not using the drug on a daily basis.  To me that is an addiction, something you feel a need to use/do to function "normally".  The dozens and dozens of clean tests indicate he does not use marijuana on a daily basis.Clearly he is not mature/responsible.  I don't know that he will become so while still of great value to an NFL team.  But I don't believe his shortcomings as a person come close to deserving the scorn he receives.

      to me, if you let weed/alcohol come between you and millions of dollars, you have an addiction

      +1Honestly, the whole letter is just full of excuses. It's like he's trying to take responsibility for it but at the same time is making excuses.

      I doubt he wrote it. That is what agents are for.

      He definitely didn't write it lol have you seen him in interviews?

      Yes I have, but I didn't want to bad mouth him too bad, because I like him as a player.  I hope he can get his personal life together, he is a huge talent.

      I live in Northeast Ohio (Akron) and we have been saying that for years. Has the potential to be elite but doesn't have the head for it right now.

      Maybe Johnny Football and Lebron will take him under their wing.    j/k

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