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    • Pennywise

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      I personally prefer Mills

      Jeremy Fowler and Dan Graziano of BSPN, believe they have identified who the Bucs are shining their klieglights on in their quarterback evaluations. And that is Florida quarterback Kyle Trask.

      If a sixth quarterback can sneak into Round 1, Tampa Bay and Trask is a fit that multiple NFL people have connected. He’s a pure pocket guy who can throw on platform at a high level, which is what Bruce Arians loves. Tampa has all roster needs met and can truly make a luxury pick at No. 32.

      Per Jbf

    • Runole

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      The BUCS will not take a QB in this years draft IMHO especially not #1 See Rogers!!!!

    • buc-in-out

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      For the love of god, no.

    • BucBalla85

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      No qb in rd 1 please!

    • Boid Fink

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      Jordan Love?

    • obuc

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      Kyle Trask is a mirror , in many ways, of Brad Johnson. A tough former boy type. Can’t run. Wont really win it for you but wont lose it. If you have a good oline and weapons, he is good enough but , of course, you don’t want to draft ‘good enough’.

    • theknees

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      Kyle Trask is not an NFL QB. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

    • Boid Fink

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      Kyle Trask will be the best QB in the last 5 drafts now. The good ol’ GottaJaboo kiss of death. This guy is the dumbest poster I have ever seen. Ever. Literally. It Java or Karen (how ironic)…but this clown.

      Kyle Trask is not an NFL QB. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

    • Wutt

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      No QB in round 1, HELL NO.

    • Bucman

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      This would be a disaster. Trask is so limited at QB.

    • Biggs3535

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      Kyle Trask is a mirror , in many ways, of Brad Johnson. A tough former boy type. Can’t run. Wont really win it for you but wont lose it. If you have a good oline and weapons, he is good enough but , of course, you don’t want to draft ‘good enough’.

      Big guy, accurate passer with great ball placement, not very mobile, smart, good arm, but not great. Pretty good comp, I’d say.

    • Runole

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      Trask will go either late in the first or early 2nd by teams not in the first 10.

    • TBChucky

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      Meh..

    • Greattimes

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      How did Trask fare against Alabama versus how did Fields fare against Alabama?

    • Bucsfan714

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      Kyle Trask is a mirror , in many ways, of Brad Johnson. A tough former boy type. Can’t run. Wont really win it for you but wont lose it. If you have a good oline and weapons, he is good enough but , of course, you don’t want to draft ‘good enough’.

      Former boy….. Lol

      Dang auto correct 😂

      • obuc

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        I know. Lol. I finally read it today. Trask really isn’t a farmer boy but he is on the cerebral introverted end more like brad johnson and brady for that matter.

    • Pennywise

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      Bump

    • Bucko40

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      I guess all the Trash doubters will have to sit back and shut up now. I will defer my opinion to the NFL professionals. If Arians and Licht think Trask is the heir apparent to Brady then so be it. Kyle has 2 seasons to learn the playbook and develop physically before taking the reins.

    • Bucko40

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      good call Pennywise. I figured the Bucs would wait till the 3rd to go QB. I’m good with Trask

    • Boid Fink

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      There is no fucking way they see Trask as an “heir apparent” to the GOAT. This was a garbage pick, another in a long history of wasted Licht second rounders. I think he personally selects these second rounders. Trash Trask is slow, weak, terrible arm, hands onto the ball…you guys watched him play. Licht at one point thought Aguayo was worthy of a second rounder. Remember this man can turn into a retard at the drop of a hat. Brady win this title. Not Licht.

      I guess all the Trash doubters will have to sit back and shut up now. I will defer my opinion to the NFL professionals. If Arians and Licht think Trask is the heir apparent to Brady then so be it. Kyle has 2 seasons to learn the playbook and develop physically before taking the reins.

      • Beatles123

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        Now you know Lich built this team. Brady being here added key things but to deny Licht any credit at all is insane. Be fair and real. You can say the picks trash, but he’s hit on a lot of em too.

    • Anonymous

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      🤣🤣🍿🍿

    • TCB2W!

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      For everyone trashing him about his arm. Per the Draft Network:

      Trask’s lower half may need to be reconstructed as it is the root of why most of his passes die in the deeper portions of the field.

      So it’s his base and mechanics from the waste down is why he loses power and velocity. That can be fixed and with Brady, BL, and Clyde Christensen will help him fix that.

    • Bucman

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      “weak arm”

      But was #1 in deep ball passes…10 tds 0 ints.

      • BucsSavant

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        “weak arm”

        But was #1 in deep ball passes…10 tds 0 ints.

        I admittedly haven’t watched him play enough to have a properly qualified opinion, but from what I e seen he has no issue getting the ball down field. His throws don’t seem to have much velocity, however. Does appear very accurate. As others have stated, there are many in this organization who can evaluate QBs better than I could ever hope to, so I’m willing to reserve condemnation until it is earned.

    • Anonymous

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      Same people said Winston can throw the deep ball and was NFL ready.

      I’ll trust my uncles immaculate track record.

      • BucsSavant

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        He seems the opposite of Winston in that early on, Winston couldn’t come within 10 feet of a receiver on deep passes, despite his cannon arm. God what a clown. Thrilled to have him on the saints.

    • Alldaway 2.0

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      I have seen enough of Trask and he is the polar opposite of Winston. Good and bad.

      Bucs offense has to be modified to make Trask work IMO. But don’t be surprised if the Bucs draft a QB in 2023.

      Build the trenches!

    • red816

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      Yea I don’t get the Trask hate…

      He’s got an interesting story very similar to the Brady’s early years as far as fighting for his opportunities and maximizing them.

      I also like Dan Mullen’s QB development history as well.

      He’s going to learn so much from Arians, Lefty, Clyde, Tom Moore, AND Brady.

      We’ll see what he can do when the time is right.

    • Biggs3535

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      Kyle Trask is not an NFL QB. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

      Fear not, Boid. Trask has been predestined to end up in Canton.

    • Pennywise

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      We did our homework,” Arians said. “Everything about the guy — he’s accurate, he’s smart; he’s tough; he knows how to move inside the pocket. We don’t draft guys to run. We draft them to throw, and he’s accurate as hell. Really excited about him.

    • Pennywise

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      The Bucs discussed drafting Trask in the first round, coach Bruce Arians said.

    • theknees

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      Lolz.

    • Greattimes

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      Lolz.

      Laughing at yourself in front of the mirror again?

    • BucsBay

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      I really like what Trask did against Georgia and even Alabama from what I’ve watched. He’s a good fit for our offense. I think it will be entertaining to watch him progress however it goes. However you want to criticize his arm, he’s not afraid to push the ball downfield. I think he could well be better than Mac Jones.

    • RW

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      Kyle Trask is not an NFL QB. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

      Well you also thought Brady was a piece of crap last year so your opinion on QBs is worthless.

      • garfield

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        He’s just mad their former bust of a #1 pick from FSU is no longer on the team and the Bucs invested in a Gator QB, instead. Knees is a total dolt and is always wrong about everything.

    • BucHarbour

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      Yeah, I think I’ll trust Arians opinion on Trask’s arm strength versus some of the goobers in here. I’ve watched every Gator game he was in. Franks had that cannon arm, but couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with it. Made terrible decisions at times. Trask was dropping dimes everywhere he threw. I’ve seen him throw dozens of passes 40+ yards down field with perfect placement. Passing the ball isn’t about how hard you can throw it. It’s about putting the ball where the receiver can get it, and making it a catchable ball. His teammates raved about how he throws a catchable ball. Arians raved about him throwing dimes down the deep sideline. I say this with all sincerity, some of you need to keep your day jobs and not go into the business of prognosticating on the NFL.

      Five years from now, mark my words, there will be a number of teams all kicking themselves for passing on Trask.

    • Boid Fink

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      Arians said Gabbert throws missiles and dimes. Ehh…

      Yeah, I think I’ll trust Arians opinion on Trask’s arm strength versus some of the goobers in here. I’ve watched every Gator game he was in. Franks had that cannon arm, but couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with it. Made terrible decisions at times. Trask was dropping dimes everywhere he threw. I’ve seen him throw dozens of passes 40+ yards down field with perfect placement. Passing the ball isn’t about how hard you can throw it. It’s about putting the ball where the receiver can get it, and making it a catchable ball. His teammates raved about how he throws a catchable ball. Arians raved about him throwing dimes down the deep sideline. I say this with all sincerity, some of you need to keep your day jobs and not go into the business of prognosticating on the NFL.

      Five years from now, mark my words, there will be a number of teams all kicking themselves for passing on Trask.

      • BucHarbour

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        I’ll also trust my eyes and what I saw over the last 1 and 4/5ths seasons with him starting. I can easily prove his ability to hit deep passes accurately by just looking at the highlight video. I mean, seriously, it’s easy to disprove the weak arm BS. He doesn’t have a weak arm. He has an above average arm. He just doesn’t have a cannon. Who cares? Most NFL throws are out in 2-3 seconds or the QB is eating the turf. You don’t have time to setup 60 yard routes. You hit the receiver at 40 and let them get the YAC.

    • JC5100

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      People on here putting too much stock in a meaningless bowl game. 43 TDs and 5 INTs vs the SEC. He’s better than Mac Jones.

    • Donkey

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      Your not the only one that thinks that. Saw several pundits say they are similar talent wise and the Bucs getting Trask at 64 much better value than Jones at 15.

      People on here putting too much stock in a meaningless bowl game. 43 TDs and 5 INTs vs the SEC. He’s better than Mac Jones.

    • ryan24

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      People on here putting too much stock in a meaningless bowl game. 43 TDs and 5 INTs vs the SEC. He’s better than Mac Jones.

      A rarity. Me and JC on the same page.

    • BucHarbour

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      Most of the throws he’s required to make in the Gators’ offense require anticipation and timing. When the bowl game came around all the guys, every starting receiver and tight end, that he’s used to throwing too were gone. They all opted out. He has several throws where he clearly thought the receiver was going to be at a certain spot and he wasn’t, including a pick. Reminded me of Brady’s first game with us. Timing means a lot, and it wasn’t there in that game. So judging him from that one versus what he did to Alabama, is just ridiculous, especially when you remember that bowl game came so quickly after the SEC championship.

    • theknees

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      The tape indicates Trask is efficient at playing college football. Not sure he translates very well to the pro game. This isn’t a gator slight, I just don’t see how he ever becomes a pro QB with his arm strength and throwing motion. Strange that we drafted him.

    • Barnz1

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      Another thing I don’t like about Trask is his age. One of the older QB’s coming out at 23. So let’s say he sits for 2 years, half way through the rookie contract he will already be 25 without playing a snap.

      All other highly rated QB’s coming out were 21-22. So that limits his ceiling even more to go along with his lack of athleticism and weak arm. He’s only a year older than Josh Rosen who was a high pick and has been basically tossed out of the NFL already and was on our practice squad.

    • BucHarbour

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      You “weak arm” guys really need to stop reading what the “experts” say and just watch the film. Dude dropped dime with 40+ air yards with regularity. You don’t do that with a weak arm. You just don’t. His occasional floater is more due to him having a moderate issue with the way he uses his core to throw. Something that can be fixed, and something that was less of an issue in 2020 then it was in 2019. He came off the bench in 2019 and was night and day better than Franks (off the cannon arm tribe) and got a lot better in 2020. To believe he’s already tapped out on his potential is just ludicrous.

      • BucsSavant

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        You “weak arm” guys really need to stop reading what the “experts” say and just watch the film. Dude dropped dime with 40+ air yards with regularity. You don’t do that with a weak arm. You just don’t. His occasional floater is more due to him having a moderate issue with the way he uses his core to throw. Something that can be fixed, and something that was less of an issue in 2020 then it was in 2019. He came off the bench in 2019 and was night and day better than Franks (off the cannon arm tribe) and got a lot better in 2020. To believe he’s already tapped out on his potential is just ludicrous.

        I saw the same thing. He has zero issue pushing the ball downfield, and I’d actually say his mid to deep accuracy/ball placement is one of his biggest strengths. The only place I could see his arm being an issue is zipping into tight spaces…the red zone and so on. He certainly doesn’t have the highest velocity ball I’ve ever seen.

    • Biggs3535

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      Another thing I don’t like about Trask is his age. One of the older QB’s coming out at 23. So let’s say he sits for 2 years, half way through the rookie contract he will already be 25 without playing a snap.

      All other highly rated QB’s coming out were 21-22. So that limits his ceiling even more to go along with his lack of athleticism and weak arm. He’s only a year older than Josh Rosen who was a high pick and has been basically tossed out of the NFL already and was on our practice squad.

      His age doesn’t bother me like it would a RB or WR. If he’s a good QB, he’ll be in the league 15+ years.

    • BucsSavant

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      Another thing I don’t like about Trask is his age. One of the older QB’s coming out at 23. So let’s say he sits for 2 years, half way through the rookie contract he will already be 25 without playing a snap.

      All other highly rated QB’s coming out were 21-22. So that limits his ceiling even more to go along with his lack of athleticism and weak arm. He’s only a year older than Josh Rosen who was a high pick and has been basically tossed out of the NFL already and was on our practice squad.

      His age doesn’t bother me like it would a RB or WR. If he’s a good QB, he’ll be in the league 15+ years.

      Especially with his pocket passer play style. This is a non issue

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      I saw the same thing. He has zero issue pushing the ball downfield, and I’d actually say his mid to deep accuracy/ball placement is one of his biggest strengths. The only place I could see his arm being an issue is zipping into tight spaces…the red zone and so on. He certainly doesn’t have the highest velocity ball I’ve ever seen.

      Spot on, @bucssavant

      Watched all his games last season, and he no problems pushing it downfield. But, agreed…tight window throws were an issue on occasion.

      As a few have stated (tweeting analysts), this appears to be a possible mechanics issue that can be fixed.

      Work on the mechanics for a year, learn from sitting behind Brady, etc. Could be great potential.

    • Natural Selection

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      Went beyond OU and Bama last night and watched 6 more of his 2020 game cut ups. We live in an amazing time, I think every one of his 2020 starts have YouTube all pass play (if not snap) videos.

      I was impressed by the volume and consistency of catchable throws to all sectors of the field, from the pocket. A lot of his incompletions were on target throws. Game after game he’s putting lots of downfield throws on the money. Not just to the NFL guys. Throwing back shoulder and contested balls where his guy should have the advantage. Hitting backs and delayed vertical or crossing routes in stride. Overall really good and consistent ball placement with throws that translate to what BA (assuming BL as well) like with their offense.

      Dude played consistently tough/gritty. He was hard charging, head down, trying to run through defenses with 0 skill/talent at QB run game. Looking for and throwing effective blocks when plays broke down. Standing in and taking hits to throw downfield. I’m definitely happy with the consistent “football character”, desire to win, whatever you want to call it.

      He seems to have an average release to me. Not overly labored or slow where it’s obviously going to cause problems. Seemed to still throw with good touch on the move to his right. Moves around ok in the pocket. Again, not scared to take shots delivering on what he sees. Took what I consider a low number of sacks for the level of pressure he got, imo.

      Slow feet. Inconsistent footwork. Trouble throwing when moving left. Not good ball control in the pocket or on the move. Does not have arm strength to deliver off platform downfield.

      I thought Jameis was going to be great, so what do I know? I watched all his FSU cut ups leading up to that draft. My opinion is Trask was the hands down more accurate thrower. I absolutely feel better about the prospect watching him more. I’m still not 100 on the strategy of picking him. Though no doubt now for me if dude has the drive to be great, Kyle Trask could be. His negatives are significant but shared with other great QBs. OU was the fluke though. Bama was legitimately representative of every other game I watched. Including his losses to LSU and A$M.

    • Pennywise

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      Like Kurt Warner said , 99 % of the throws QBs make are under 40 yards .

      He wasn’t my first choice but he offers plenty, let’s remember he has been a starter for 2 years , dating back to 2014 .

    • mdbuc

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      The guy has only had two years of starting and he put up major numbers in year 2. That’s the definition of upside to me. Some people are just late bloomers. Low risk high reward for sure.

    • BucBalla85

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      The guy has only had two years of starting and he put up major numbers in year 2. That’s the definition of upside to me. Some people are just late bloomers. Low risk high reward for sure.

      Is he gonna be our starting qb of the future for the long haul? If we all had to put money on it probably not but I have no problem taking the chance in the position we are currently in. He has some upside and has Brady to learn from. Like I said worse situations to be in and I think the luxury position the team is in afforded us the ability to take a chance on a project. If he works out great we don’t have to invest in a qb. If he doesn’t work out I’m not really gonna lose sleep over it. This whole draft we were looking for depth. How much is any player we choose in this draft going to play this year. How much do they normally play when choosing from that 32 spot position? Maybe you can get a guy or two from there but I doubt it’s a very high number and mostly depth guys. Why not take a shot on a guy to maybe be your qb of the future without having to invest a whole lot.

      • mdbuc

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        The guy has only had two years of starting and he put up major numbers in year 2. That’s the definition of upside to me. Some people are just late bloomers. Low risk high reward for sure.

        Is he gonna be our starting qb of the future for the long haul? If we all had to put money on it probably not but I have no problem taking the chance in the position we are currently in. He has some upside and has Brady to learn from. Like I said worse situations to be in and I think the luxury position the team is in afforded us the ability to take a chance on a project. If he works out great we don’t have to invest in a qb. If he doesn’t work out I’m not really gonna lose sleep over it. This whole draft we were looking for depth. How much is any player we choose in this draft going to play this year. How much do they normally play when choosing from that 32 spot position? Maybe you can get a guy or two from there but I doubt it’s a very high number and mostly depth guys. Why not take a shot on a guy to maybe be your qb of the future without having to invest a whole lot.

        Exactly, it’s a luxury pick and if he ends up being a backup then so be it. You can’t expect much else when you draft a non-top QB.

        If you want a laugh, look at this article where they rank the top 60 QBs drafted in round 1 since 2000. After 20 it gets ugly(think Mark Sanchez, Freeman, Kyle Boller). It’s basically 1 in 3 that you’ll pick a good QB in R1. The best current guys that were picked outside of the top 10 this century are Lamar Jackson, Rodgers, Deshaun Watson then there’s a huge drop off.

        https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/list/ranking-every-nfl-quarterback-drafted-first-round-since-2000/16obdsowna7kk1gnhl9iqrp2pg/2

        We’re going to be picking in the late 20s at best in the next draft, and maybe the next two drafts, so a QB at 64 is a much better value than a QB picked between picks 15 and 32. Had to be someone, and this year Trask is our guy. And who’s to say we don’t draft another QB next year?

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