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    • Bucman

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      2 years 25 million. Let’s gooo

    • obuc

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      great deal. 12.5 per is a good deal. that will help to sign the rest. see if they can get shaq and Suh

    • Pennywise

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      Cheap deal , nice

      • RHBucsFan

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        You thought he was gone. Happy you were wrong. Shaq is next, then Suh.

    • LIBucsFan93

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      Licht is making it happen. I take back all the bad things I said about him long ago. Welcome back LD. #LFG

    • BuccaNOLEer

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      Told ya he wasn’t going anywhere. He’s got a ring and wants another one. He’s going to retire as a Buc.

    • Pennywise

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      $20 million guaranteed.

      • Bucman

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        Only 3.5 million dollar cap hit. Greenberg is a fucking genius.

      • obuc

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        wow, you’re kidding. 3.5 now and 20.5 guaranteed next year?

    • Welsh Buc

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      Need some players to kick some pay down the road now (even after Brady does).

      Great start though!

    • RHBucsFan

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      Boom!!! LFG!

      Shaq is next, let’s minke it happen.

    • Pennywise

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      It’ll be a five-year deal with three voidable years for LB Lavonte David that keeps his cap number at a manageable $3.5 million for the #Buccaneers this year. Voidable years are all the rage this year as teams maneuver around the cap decrease

    • m_j

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      sounds great! should leave enough cap space to play with!

    • BucBalla85

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      Yaaasss!! So happy David is back!

    • FLASH

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      He wanted to stay here. Lots of blood, sweat, and tears in Tampa from David. Now that he is able to smile he wants to stay. Good deal. We need him.

    • 3rd String Kicker

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      This guy belongs in the ring in the honor some day.

    • buc_boi

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      Hell yeah, Jason licht is the MAN!

      And some of you doubted my uncle, shame on you!

    • spartan

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      Voidable years, 3.5 cap hit, 20 guaranteed!!

      Anyone know how this works out? Unless we are paying him $17 million next year, or he has a signing bonus, which means we are back to the days of dead cap, I’m not following!

      • buc_boi

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        It’s basically mostly all guaranteed next season, some 20 mill.

        Glazers are all in it seems.

    • Pennywise

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      Bucs aren’t dumb , they won’t jeopardize future cap for short term .

      Not to mention, talk is cap will be close to 250 million in a few years .

    • Culo Con Dientes

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      YESSSS! Keep the band together. We love the music.

    • Alldaway 2.0

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      Fantastic!

      Get Shaq and Suh back and the Bucs are cooking on defense.

      Build the trenches!

    • FireLicht2020

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      Hell yeah

    • Hockey Duckie

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      Glad to have LVD back!

      According to Sportrac, after franchising Godwin, the Bucs are -$397k. If LVD’s 2021 contract is $3.5 mil, then we need to expect some contract re-structuring and/or cutting of players. Gholston makes $5.5 mil. I think C Jensen would be a way to save money by cutting his $10 mil, move Cappa to Center and draft a RG this year in the first two rounds. But it’ll be Licht thinking Stinnie can be starting RG.

      • BucsSavant

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        Why do you promote cutting Jensen on every single thread? Fool.

      • buc_boi

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        Because he’s incapable of accepting the fact he’s wrong about the oline.

        And it’s like every single topic he posts in too, isn’t it.

      • JC5100

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        1. Jensen is an average center.
        2. The cap value for the #16 center is $3.5M
        3. Jensen’s cap hit is $10M
        4. Do the math.

    • KyBucfan51

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      You don’t leave a good thing at David’s age he officially accomplished everything now it’s time to finish his career a Buccaneer.

    • Boid Fink

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      Jensen is not getting cut…

      Players need to be stepping up and taking small cuts, or asking for salary converted to bonus (gotta get in the Glazers pocketbook)…

    • Team Pteranodon

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      Important to get him back with white to continue his growth, not as important as shaq but close. Every other defensive free agent can be replaced cheap, including suh, and that is where we need to leverage solid aging vets wanting to play with a winner at a discount.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Greenberg is earning every penny of his salary right now.

      • buc_boi

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        Greenberg?

        You mean Jason licht don’t you, after all he’s the general manager?

      • Hockey Duckie

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        @buc_boi,

        From the official website:

        Greenberg works directly with General Manager Jason Licht on all aspects of the salary cap, contract negotiations, compliance with the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement, as well as the club’s financial and strategic planning. He also oversees budgeting for all football operations, including the coaching, scouting, video, athletic training, equipment, groundskeeping, strength and conditioning and player development departments.

        During the 2020 offseason, Greenberg was vital in negotiating six-time Super Bowl winning quarterback, Tom Brady’s two-year contract. He also oversaw the re-signings of Jason Pierre-Paul and Ndamukong Suh. He was also listed on The Athletic’s “NFL 40 Under 40: The rising stars shaping the direction of the NFL.”

        In his role as Director of Football Administration, Greenberg has overseen long-term contract extensions for linebacker Lavonte David and wide receiver Mike Evans, each of whom have earned Pro Bowl honors during their time with Tampa Bay. Greenberg has also worked on extensions for offensive linemen Ali Marpet and Donovan Smith, both of whom have been starters since joining the team in the 2015 NFL Draft.

        Here’s an in-depth article on Greenberg, also corroborates in the signing of Brady: link

        Greenberg is the money guy. Even Licht praises Greenberg being the money. It’s nice to give kudos to Greenberg.

        But then again, you’d have to have the capacity to incorporate depth and nuance in one’s mind. Oh well, could only lead a horse to water.

      • buc_boi

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        Here’s an in-depth article on Greenberg, also corroborates in the signing of Brady: link

        Greenberg is the money guy. Even Licht praises Greenberg being the money. It’s nice to give kudos to Greenberg.

        Let me rephrase my original post into a question for you, so you can fully understand my point, since my point eludes you…

        Would you licht haters blame mike Greenberg or Jason licht had we dropped the ball on LVD 54?

        Get it now?

        But then again, you’d have to have the capacity to incorporate depth and nuance in one’s mind. Oh well, could only lead a horse to water.

        Never did understand the superiority complex you brainless followers have, I’m just glad you went a post without regurgitating the same talking point again, “cut jenson, save 10 million”, so bravo to you for growing out of that brainless parrot phase you were stuck in.

      • Donkey_Hunter

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        No, I didn’t mean Jason Licht.

        I meant Mike Greenberg. The team’s “capologist”.

        He’s done a great job managing these salaries and maximizing the limited cap space that we have.

        And, his ability to bring back the greatest linebacker to wear a Buc’s uniform since Brooks, in the capacity that he did…is phenomenal IMO.

        Now, let’s see if he can complete the trifecta with Shaq.

      • buc_boi

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        No, I didn’t mean Jason Licht.

        I meant Mike Greenberg. The team’s “capologist”.

        He’s done a great job managing these salaries and maximizing the limited cap space that we have.

        And, his ability to bring back the greatest linebacker to wear a Buc’s uniform since Brooks, in the capacity that he did…is phenomenal IMO.

        Now, let’s see if he can complete the trifecta with Shaq.

        Bwhahahahaha!

        Oh lord, help this man!

        Y’all licht haters have no limit when it comes to your denial!

        I mean I seriously wish I lived in this reality where general managers aren’t responsible for the construction of their own rosters, or where you draft a middle linebacker for #1 pass defense… must be in Fiji or somewhere like that!

        Guess I’ll ask you the same question I just asked Hockey Duckie, would you blame Mike Greenberg or Jason licht had we dropped the ball on LVD54?

        Amazes me how everything negative is lichts fault, yet everything Positive is Greenberg or Brady’s doing.

      • Donkey_Hunter

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        Guess I’ll ask you the same question I just asked Hockey Duckie, would you blame Mike Greenberg or Jason licht had we dropped the ball on LVD54?

        I wouldn’t have blamed either one. It was a tricky situation in a few ways.

        Obviously, the diminished cap is an issue for almost every team this year.

        Greenberg worked out a great deal IMO that kept our best LB on the roster.

        So, like I said, I’m hoping to see if he can work his magic on a deal with Shaq (assuming he wants to stay).

      • buc_boi

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        Quality troll job, DH

        10/10

      • Donkey_Hunter

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        Praising the capologist for the way he worked LVD’s contract is a quality troll job?

        Whatever you say, lil’ fella’.

    • SaskBucs

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      Great deal. Pumped about this one. Still lots of time for cap adjustments through extensions, restructures and cuts. Bucs are gonna be loaded again. Awesome time to be a Bucs fan!

    • Lawdy

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      i hope he retires a buc

    • Tampa Bay Todd

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      Heart and soul of the defense and thrilled he will be back with the Bucs next year. Years ago it was pretty difficult seeing Hardy Nickerson leave and then Lynch a few more years after that.

    • ISLAND BUCS

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      Jensen does things that don’t show up in statistics.

      Example

      2nd Q of Super Bowl, Bucs leading 7-3. Bucs on their 33 facing 3rd and 7.

      Jensen goes up to Chris Jones, says something to him and gives him a little shove. Jones
      retaliates and the ref throws a flag on Jones. The camera goes to Brady who has a big smile
      his face because Jensen just got him a 1st down.

      Very next play Evans is running free thru the KC secondary, a 10 yd pass and Evans takes the ball
      to the KC 20.

      It could be that the KC defense was just a bit down, which allowed Evans to run free,
      because they just gave away a 1st down.

      Jensen is hated by defensive line men, and he works on cultivating their hatred. The defense is quick to react to Jensen because they hate him so much. On the above play, Jensen took a calculated risk (the ref wouldn’t notice him) and it paid off.

      Brady loves Jensen’s psychological play.

      Remain intimately at the heart of experience.

      • BucsSavant

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        It’s somewhat fascinating that you can tell who actually understands the game and who doesn’t by their views on Jensen. Those who don’t rely on new age, frivolous analytics and want to crucify the man based on that, while people who get it see him for what he is – an aggressive, tone-setting, nasty in the trenches, leader. Many formers player(see Jeff Saturday, et all) actually consider him the very best center in the league. Offensive line play very much has to do with cohesion, and so many want to remove the glue directly from the middle of this line, just as it comes into its own. I really don’t see the purpose for constantly harping on this, other than trying to have a pseudo-intellectual hot take, being a GM/emperor in your own mind. Pathetic. Also a shame this had to poison a thread celebrating the deserved return of an all time great buc, as is has so many others. Completely unrelated.

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