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    • DEBUCSOWN

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      1 player has been franchised.

      One.

      How many get franchised a day 2 before the deadline? Not many at all.

      Hope im wrong, but looks like CG14 may be heading to FA.

      Tuesday 3 PM? I believe is the deadline.

      Stay tuned.

    • Boid Fink

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      They have to finesse the cap. May take as much time as possible to get their ducks all in a row.

    • buc-in-out

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      They’re working on getting Brady extended to free up more cap space. I imagine there will be a few contracts that get restructured so we can bring everyone back.

      It might go down to the wire.

    • Team Pteranodon

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      Godwin doesn’t give the return on investment for what he should command in salary, which means cap money would be better spent elsewhere to maximize effective team strength. Brady spreads the ball around too much for him to be so important, and Godwin can be 90% replaced at a fraction of the price by a number of veteran free agents.

      • leeroybuc93

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        As much as I hate to say it I have to agree. Godwin is a good receiver. He’s had one elite year and we all, myself included, just kind of decided that was it, he’s a star. But he didn’t maintain that level of play. Also, that elite year came playing mostly in the slot. You don’t pay guys elite money for an outlier season two years ago and you don’t pay slot guys WR1 money.

    • Boid Fink

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      Godwin was beat the hell up. He’s a stud, and will be retained. Not only Does he help this team in the immediate plans, but he is a contingency as well, for the future.

      Godwin is worth retention. And will be kept. Arians ain’t letting him go. He blocks, can play any position as a WR, and can run after the catch. He generally has elite level hands, but I think having concussions, hamstring pulls, and pins inserted into your hand sort of slowed him down. That and the fact there were a lot of targets to go around.

      But for the future, he is young and a baller, and needs to be retained. Guys like Suh, AB are the ones that need to worry. Hey are going to get lowballed.

    • kenntak

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      Godwin was spectacular during the season. I love his ability to run after a short catch and make yards. However, he let me down a bit in the playoffs with uncharacteristic drops. I don’t know the reason for that, was it his nerves? You need big play receivers to make big plays, but maybe it was an anomaly. However, I don’t think BA wants to spend a lot to keep Godwin at the expense of keeping some other players.

      I am sure something can be worked out if all parties are reasonable. The Saints kept a lot of good players for many years, although this year it is biting them. New England kept on winning for many years, so it can be done, it just takes some creativity and commitment.

    • DEBUCSOWN

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      At this point im fine with robinson golloday fuller or juju to replace CG14.

      Been a good run. Deuces!

    • Boid Fink

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      All of those guys are going to cost around the same money as Godwin, so why screw around with chemistry and sign a player that is equal to Godwin (in terms of pay)?

      Makes no sense.

      You keep continuity, the player who has a strong connection with TB12 and knows the system, and you have a good wideout for when this team starts to fill in holes again. Godwin is a stud. You have to seriously consider keeping those elements around. Gronk and AB should be the ones that are worried. They weren’t home grown and hand picked by the GM.

      • DEBUCSOWN

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        AB, Fournette, did they have chemistry with brady?

        This isnt the o line we’re talking about.

        2020 proved chemistry is overrated.

        If godwin is back, great.

        If not, i won’t lose sleep. Godwin, like shaq, isnt some generational talent.

      • Boid Fink

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        You’re mad and wrong. Production for this team is phenomenal. Stop playin.

    • KyBucfan51

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      I think they let him test the market then offer a 5 year contract. With Brady and Mike getting reworked contracts there should be a way to sign everyone back.

      • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by KyBucfan51.

    • kenntak

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      I am totally in a different realm, because I usually pay to play sports, but I have trouble seeing why someone would leave the Bucs merely for a chance of getting 10% more or so, when you have a good chance to play for another ring with guys you developed some chemistry; and would not have to learn a new offense and deal with a new quarterback.

    • Buc on the Move

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      “I am totally in a different realm, because I usually pay to play sports, but I have trouble seeing why someone would leave the Bucs merely for a chance of getting 10% more or so, when you have a good chance to play for another ring with guys you developed some chemistry; and would not have to learn a new offense and deal with a new quarterback.”


      @kenntak
      I totally feel you man. Thinking about the seasonal contract work I do in a team based environment on ships. If I have a team I believe in and love to work with, with great chemistry and philosophy I jive with, and a different employer were to offer 10% more on my day rate to come work for them next season, forget about it. You never know what kinda of shitstorm you can find yourself in. Not worth it for that 10%. If I’m not in to the other team members or the operation as a whole, then sure it’s worth it, and more pay makes it an easy pill to swallow.

      Now start slinging around +20%…+30%, and I can start to stomach a lot more
      I hope our key players feel the same way, and we get them all back. Even without one or two, I think we can adapt and absorb new players.

    • Buc on the Move

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      Damn, god forbid you want to edit a post on this site. What a mess.

      • buc_boi

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        Lol

    • BucBalla85

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      Love Godwin but think he is the easiest to replace on this team. He won’t be easy to replace by any means but wr is something we don’t lack much of. Tyler Johnson and if Brown comes back will be more than enough to handle Godwins old load. Be harder to get a de and lb with the type of speed and skill Barrett and David have that gave KC and the rest of the playoff teams fits. I think our best chance at repeating is retaining those two.

      • Team Pteranodon

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        Well certainly for the money I would say by far the most replaceable. 20m in cap room, then if godwin gets his that’s 5m left for Barrett, David, gronk, any other DT to play with Vea, etc. I don’t see a Brady restructure along with evans finding the other 25m it’s going to cost just for guys I mentioned, which doesn’t even get to 51 players under contract yet either.

    • Vance

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      Ask yourself this is Godwin is playing like Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson? now ask yourself is Shaq playing like like a top 3 defender ? Shaq is hard to find – Godwin isn’t ? this is my opinion though …

    • LVBUC2

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      Tag Godwin, then trade. There is a 90% chance we lose him in FA. If we lose Godwin in FA all we will get is a 3rd round Comp pick. We could trade him for a 1st or second round pick. For the people that think we can sign all the free agents it won’t happen. To do that, the Bucs would have to shell out large signing Bonus and that is some ownership has not done.

    • DEBUCSOWN

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      Clock is ticking. CG14 predictions?

      Im going LAR. They’ll be our biggest threat in the NFC sans GB imho.

      Wish him the best!

      Glad he won a ring here at least. Do not blame him one bit for chasing that $.

      More disappointed in the FO for fucking around, likely assuming “hey we can drag our feet! We’re the team to beat. No one will possibly leave us! Right..? Right.”

      Good bye shaq, good bye godwin. Been a helluva run!

      Also not sure why the tb12 extension wasn’t done much sooner. Big fuck up.

      • This reply was modified 1 month ago by DEBUCSOWN.

    • SwarmingDefense

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      I agree with Boid. CG is undervalued by a lot of you, especially since he was out there pretty banged up.

      LMAO Team Pterodactyl, to say he’s not worth the return on investment is laughable. Dude always shows up when he is in there.

      Those 2019 numbers were in 14 games. He would have lead the league in most categories had he not had a hammy pull.

      Allen Robinson is going to make bank and is not worth it. Golliday is not on Godwin’s level and JUJU brings too much headache.

      Godwin is a gritty team first WR that doesn’t cause drama and already said he would take less to stay with Tampa.

      Some of y’all need to put down the Madden controller

    • buc-in-out

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      LAR just re-signed Bobby Woods and Cooper Kupp to matching $14 million/year deals, and they’re in cap hell cuz of Ramsey and Donald’s behemoth contracts, plus huge dead money due to cutting Gurley and trading Goff.

      That’s the last team that will pay up for Godwin, although he’d be a good fit with what they like to do on offense.

    • JC5100

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      You can give him a market value contract that hits guaranteed money thresholds and still keep his cap value below $10M in 2021.

    • TCB2W!

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      Per ESPN:

      That is if it isn’t pushed back [franchise tag window], which reportedly could happen. Thanks to the ongoing and lengthy salary cap discussions between the NFL and the NFLPA, the former is considering pushing back the tag deadline this offseason — per Ian Rapoport of NFL Network — to allow time for coming to terms on a final cap figure. Without that in hand, teams remain somewhat handicapped in any negotiations that might be ongoing, and that will most certainly be an issue if it’s not resolved by the time legal tampering begins on March 15.

    • Boid Fink

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      The overall lowering of the cap is obviously a kink in all negotiations. The agents are pretending like this is a temporary issue and their clients are entitled to pre-covid money. The cap will climb back to typical inflation changes (no pandemic).

      The teams are saying they have other players to pay already, and their money is hampered, and obviously the agents do not care.

      This is going to be a very peculiar dynamic between these two opposing elements. Agents and owners have had a push/pull relationship forever but will the economic metrics affect the ability of agents to understand this situation, or will the owners just collectively lowball everyone during this recession/depression?

      Glazers don’t like to convert salary to bonus, very often. Doesn’t seem to be their style. But if a lot of players but in to getting their money now, this cap issue is an easy fix. But it’s up to the Glazers to buy in to the team winning again. Do they have that in them?

    • Wutt

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      You won’t see anything happen until they extend Brady to be able to free up some money. Nothing to see here.

    • DEBUCSOWN

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      The more I think about it the more confident I am of a evans, brown, miller & Johnson WR tandem.

      Arguably still top 5 in the league.

      Let godwin walk. Dudes overrated AF anyway

      See: playoff drops. Not clutch either.

      Pff had him as the #2 WR in 2019. Lawl.

      • This reply was modified 1 month ago by DEBUCSOWN.

    • DEBUCSOWN

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      Off topic: thank you for dropping the up/downvotes! Best thing PR has ever done tbh lol.

      This aint no twitter instagram or YouTube!

      • buc_boi

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        I disagree

        Very entertaining watching grown men get upset over a down vote.

        Very entertaining

      • DEBUCSOWN

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        Luckily pr doesn’t care what you think!!

        Mwhaha!

      • buc_boi

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        I see why so many here make fun of you.

      • DEBUCSOWN

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