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    • leeroybuc93

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    • xbucsx_4_xevax

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      Cole Beasley to the second team? And Evans didn’t?

      Wirfs also should of been second team

    • leeroybuc93

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      Cole Beasley to the second team? And Evans didn’t?

      Wirfs also should of been second team

      Yeah I was actually scanning first for Wirfs and then I thought maybe LVD. He and White both was a pleasant surprise.

    • Biggs3535

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      Among 52 qualified (50% of defensive snaps played) non-Edge LB’s:

      Lavonte David: 4/52
      Devin White: 49/52

      The AP got caught up in the coaching staff’s hype and tackle numbers.

      * It’s worth noting Devin White is the highest rated LB for pass rush. But that coverage grade tho…

    • RW

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      Cole Beasley to the second team? And Evans didn’t?

      Wirfs also should of been second team

      Marpet should have made 2nd team; 3rd rated guard in the NFL. And no Evans should not have made it; either should have White. More of a popularity contest than picking the best at each position.

    • J.A.S.H.E.R.

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      Devin White made 2nd team all pro…wow. Kinda hard to wrap my head around that but I’ll take it!

      And Ali is the new LVD with how much he’s overlooked.

    • RHBucsFan

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      White has his deficiencies in coverage but his sack numbers this season are on a historic level for a MIDDLE (non edge) linebacker. Seems all these accolade teams look at are sack numbers sometimes.

      Wirfs and Marpet should have made at least second teaM IMO.

    • RW

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      Among 52 qualified (50% of defensive snaps played) non-Edge LB’s:

      Lavonte David: 4/52
      Devin White: 49/52

      The AP got caught up in the coaching staff’s hype and tackle numbers.

      * It’s worth noting Devin White is the highest rated LB for pass rush. But that coverage grade tho…

      yes White is a BS selection. He was great at rushing the QB but not so good at other things. Same as Jamal Adams; he graded out lower than AW jr. but gets to be a all pro because he is a good blitzer

    • notabucsfan

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      Someone forgot to tell the voters that White is a bust

    • JC5100

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      White benefiting from the same BS hype Nelson gets. High pick with highlights so lets vote him All-Pro

    • RW

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      Someone forgot to tell the voters that White is a bust

      he’s not a bust but he’s not an all-pro.

    • Biggs3535

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      White benefiting from the same BS hype Nelson gets. High pick with highlights so lets vote him All-Pro

      Is this the same ‘Ton Nelson that has graded out as a top-5 OG every season since he’s been a professional or are we talking about somebody else?

    • DEBUCSOWN

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      Not bad for a bust! (White)

    • JC5100

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      White benefiting from the same BS hype Nelson gets. High pick with highlights so lets vote him All-Pro

      Is this the same ‘Ton Nelson that has graded out as a top-5 OG every season since he’s been a professional or are we talking about somebody else?

      Guess getting your QB injured and ruining your team’s season doesn’t carry that much weight in grading.

    • Anonymous

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      Among 52 qualified (50% of defensive snaps played) non-Edge LB’s:

      Lavonte David: 4/52
      Devin White: 49/52

      The AP got caught up in the coaching staff’s hype and tackle numbers.

      * It’s worth noting Devin White is the highest rated LB for pass rush. But that coverage grade tho…

      What’s funny about this, is LVD is out there getting beat in coverage just like White.

    • xbucsx_4_xevax

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      Cole Beasley to the second team? And Evans didn’t?

      Wirfs also should of been second team

      Marpet should have made 2nd team; 3rd rated guard in the NFL. And no Evans should not have made it; either should have White. More of a popularity contest than picking the best at each position.

      So wait a min here..

      Beasley: 82 Recs, 967 yards and 4 TDs

      Evans: 70 recs, 1006 yards and 13 TDs who’s more deserving?

    • Greattimes

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      Popularity contests weighted in favor of big city teams.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Guess getting your QB injured and ruining your team’s season doesn’t carry that much weight in grading.

      You were awfully quiet when Brown Jr. single-handedly eliminated the Ravens from the postseason a few years ago.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      What’s funny about this, is LVD is out there getting beat in coverage just like White.

      What’s funnier is how this isn’t remotely close to being accurate.

      Does LVD get beat in coverage? Of course.

      Is at as bad, or the same rate or frequency as White? Not even close.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Beasley is a head scratcher, as is White

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      And Ali is the new LVD with how much he’s overlooked.

      Sad, but true.

    • xbucsx_4_xevax

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    • Nobody

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      Congrats to our guys.

      Marpet absolutely got robbed, but it wasn’t by Nelson. Nelson should be 2nd team. Marpet should be 1st team.

      Its splitting hairs at the top of the list of Guards, but if one has to go for Marpet, its Bitonio. He was excellent, but he wasn’t as good as Nelson or Marpet.

    • JC5100

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      Guess getting your QB injured and ruining your team’s season doesn’t carry that much weight in grading.

      You were awfully quiet when Brown Jr. single-handedly eliminated the Ravens from the postseason a few years ago.

      It clinched the loss but at the time their win probability was less than 30% and at one point in the game it was less than 5%. So he didn’t single handedly lose it.

    • Anonymous

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      What’s funny about this, is LVD is out there getting beat in coverage just like White.

      What’s funnier is how this isn’t remotely close to being accurate.

      Does LVD get beat in coverage? Of course.

      Is at as bad, or the same rate or frequency as White? Not even close.

      “isn’t remotely close to being accurate.” was draped like a cape all over the back of Austin Hooper on that 3rd and distance play near the goal line that resulted in a first and goal from the one.

      Again if 4/52 is elite shut down cover, and 49/52 is a complete bust then I’m not seeing this great Discernible difference between David’s #4 ranking and Whites #52 ranking, as they’ve both given up just as many big plays through the air this year.

      Tape doesn’t lie, my friend.

      We watched LVD give up 2 passing scores in the same game earlier this year and none of you uttered a peep about it, seems there’s two different standards at play here.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Again if 4/52 is elite shut down cover, and 49/52 is a complete bust then I’m not seeing this great Discernible difference between David’s #4 ranking and Whites #52 ranking,

      Believe me, we know. You’ve proven repeatedly you don’t know what you’re looking at or talking about regarding this topic.

      as they’ve both given up just as many big plays through the air this year.

      Cool. Show us the stats to back it up.

      We watched LVD give up 2 passing scores in the same game earlier this year and none of you uttered a peep about it,

      Wrong again. There were several posters calling him out and even questioning whether he’s starting to decline, as he’s been an elite coverage backer his entire career (unlike White) and that it was definitely uncommon for him.

      Regardless, congrats to both.

      Though, LVD should have a handful more of these honors after being snubbed time and time again.

    • Biggs3535

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      White benefiting from the same BS hype Nelson gets. High pick with highlights so lets vote him All-Pro

      Is this the same ‘Ton Nelson that has graded out as a top-5 OG every season since he’s been a professional or are we talking about somebody else?

      Guess getting your QB injured and ruining your team’s season doesn’t carry that much weight in grading.

      No, you’re correct. Irrational opinions from the likes of you don’t factor into the grading.

      You’ve been wrong on Nelson for years. Judging from past experience, I don’t expect you to learn that lesson and evolve.

    • Biggs3535

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      Again if 4/52 is elite shut down cover, and 49/52 is a complete bust then I’m not seeing this great Discernible difference between David’s #4 ranking and Whites #52 ranking, as they’ve both given up just as many big plays through the air this year.

      Sweet geebus. At damn near every opportunity, you prove to be a hopeless prisoner of ignorance. Completely clueless about what’s being discussed, in every way.

    • Anonymous

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      There were several posters calling him out and even questioning whether he’s starting to decline, as he’s been an elite coverage backer his entire career

      I must have missed those threads, I just can’t seem to remember our linebackers coverage skills being questioned until Devin White came around.

    • Anonymous

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      Again if 4/52 is elite shut down cover, and 49/52 is a complete bust then I’m not seeing this great Discernible difference between David’s #4 ranking and Whites #52 ranking, as they’ve both given up just as many big plays through the air this year.

      Sweet geebus. At damn near every opportunity, you prove to be a hopeless prisoner of ignorance. Completely clueless about what’s being discussed, in every way.

      Quality post, thanks for sharing.

      Lol

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      I just can’t seem to remember our linebackers coverage skills being questioned until Devin White came around.

      Well, you’d be wrong…yet again.

      I know you first showed up here the year before White was drafted, but there were plenty of topics discussing Kwon’s issues with coverage.

      If you are referring to LVD, you’re right. There were never any topics on it, because he’s been absolutely ELITE in coverage since his rookie season.

      As I’ve said before, David’s 2nd year might be one of the best seasons in the last 2 decades.

    • Diehard Astheycome

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      Maybe, just maybe, if a couple of our 14 DBs. Or the Hailed Hawaiian Hulk who’s now been here THREE seasons. Contributed just one FULL season of his ALL WORSHIPING play in the middle? Then our heat seeking missile at LB whos PRIMARY job it is to hit RBs, blitz QBs and attack downhill. Wouldn’t be getting scrutinized for everyone’s else’s lack of contribution regardless of his deficiency.
      There’s also no stat for being a thumper and an intimidating hitter who’s motor never stops.
      Kind of feel like if every player had to raise their hand and tell the class what they’ve contributed. At least D White can say 140 Tckls and 9 sacks.
      Be like a guy who bats 3rd in baseball hits 37 HR n 118 RBIs but batted .243 – Not the average you expect from a 3 hitter and yes he probably left a good lead off guy on base more than you’d like.
      However his power numbers are pretty damn good and compensated for the lack of getting hits at key times. It probably would help the team score runs if the guy batting 2nd(our CBs)could get hits. As well as our clean up guy ( Vea) could give more than 250 quality at bats a year.
      If your 2 hitter hits .296 and clean up guy can deliver 40/120 I’m sure the overall offense would seem much better.

    • JC5100

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      That’s the second blatant hold Nelson has gotten away with

      And Jesus Christ Matt Milano is actually worse than White in coverage

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