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    • Anonymous

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      not a totally uncommon profile"Two years before Jerad Miller and his wife, Amanda, allegedly gunned down two police officers and a third person in a Las Vegas shooting spree, before taking their own lives, he pondered when it might be justified to kill law enforcement officers on the website of conspiracy-peddling radio personality Alex Jones. In a May 28, 2012, post titled, "The Police (To Kill Or Not To Kill?)" Miller wrote on Jones' Infowars.com website: "I live in Indiana and recently a law was passed named the right to resist law.  As i can make out from it, if a police officer kicks in my door and is not there legally, then I may shoot him."His posts on Infowars depict an angry, down-on-his-luck man who blamed his woes—decaying teeth, lack of health insurance, and inability to find work—on the tyranny of government. (Alex Jones has insisted the shooting spree Miller and his wife allegely carried out was "absolutely staged" by the federal government.) The justice system became a focus of Miller's wrath following his arrest for selling marijuana. "Before I got arrested I had 2 jobs and was selling weed to my friends and family on the side," he wrote. "Now I cannot find a job. My probation officer states that if I protest that my probation will be violated. They have tried to tell my fiance, who has no criminal record, that she may not own a firearm if I live in the house. Now, i face a dire problem."And he noted, "I was arrested for a crime, that is a felony, yet i hurt no one.  Never laid a hand on a person or their property. Was selling something on the black market that is in high demand. Yet there is no victim in the crime i committed, so how can that be a felony charge? A charge that takes my 1st, 2nd, and 4th right away? How can this be? Do I really live in a free country?"In Miller's May 2012 post, he also related another brush with law: when he was searched by police at the home a friend who had an open warrant for his arrestNow, that was my last encounter with police officers. I'm afraid they may try to do some stuff like that to my fiance and I. For the most part, I’m a law abiding citizen. I believe in Gods law. You know the ones.  Dont steal, dont murder, etc. I fear that if they came, even with a warrant, that I feel they are being unlawfull and infringing upon my rghts. I feel that I have been violated and tread upon.  That the so called justice system has done me harm.  I do not wish to kill police. I understand that most of them believe they are doing the right thing.  Yet, I will not go to jail, because I have not committed a crime! Miller's then-fiance, Amanda Woodruff, commented on Jerad's post: "Jerad, baby, I love you with all my heart and I'll stand behind you no matter what. It's true that its not fair that i can’t have a gun because you live with me. I know its not right that my rights get taken away from me because I live in the same home as you but I would love to see them try and enforce that. My love for you is deep and forever and **CENSORED** what they have to say cause they have no right to do what they say is not right. I love you and as I said before I stand beside you forever."In a post on June 26, 2012, Miller discussed how his life had unraveled since his arrest and how he couldn't afford dental care for a decaying wisdom tooth that had become a "painfull[y] infected hole":I have not seen a dentists in 14 years.  I take good care of my teeth.  The job market has been horrible.  The few temporary jobs i find havent been able to earn me enough money to go see a dentist.  Since I dont have insurance or medicaid the cost is around 500 to 1000 dollars.  So as I sit here in agony, taking the penasilin the ER perscribed me I contemplate the state of things here in the good old USA.  How the Gov. spends billions of dollars on the war on drugs and all these missles and bombs to kill people.  I think about all that money that could do to helping people instead.  Creating jobs, creating happy, healthy people.  I dont want a hand out.  I just need a foundation to stand on.  One that wont be pulled out from under me as soon as i step up on it.  I’m a 29 year old american who has never once had a good enough job to have health insurance……………. I dont know what else to say. Miller's last posted on Infowars on August 7, 2012, publishing a sci-fi-esque short story about a father and son contemplating fighting the government. In this tale, the father tells his son, "It is our responibility to care for everything around us because its in our power to do so. They would seek to destroy and exterminate and abuse. They would taint the water as they did before. Son, I cant tell you how precious life is."

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    • Anonymous

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      Hard to sympathize with a guy who killed two innocent ppl and took them away from their kids.We all sympathize w/others who are trying to get ahead but can't. No reason to go killing people

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    • Anonymous

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      “Those of us who are well fed, well garmented and well ordered, ought not to forget that necessity makes frequently the root of crime. It is well for us to recollect that even in our own law-abiding, not to say virtuous cases, the only barrier between us and anarchy is the last nine meals we’ve had. It may be taken as axiomatic that a starving man is never a good citizen. “

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    • Anonymous

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      yeah, it was a lack of food . .  he was hungry0.jpgthat's why he was at Wal Mart . . . he wanted to trade in his shopping cart full of guns  . . . for foodhe had enough Money to buy and sell pot to "faMily and a few friends" and buy guns . . . but the needed food

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    • Anonymous

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      yeah, it was a lack of food . .  he was hungry

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    • Anonymous

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      Feed me. I’m angry and attention starved..5004_bioimage.jpg

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    • Anonymous

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      typical durango nonsense down in the dungeon.I agree with the sentiment expressed by the quoted journalist, but its not the issue in this instance ... as evidenced by your complete lack of a substantive response

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    • Anonymous

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      I’m not trying to say what these people did was right, obviously, but when government/big business has become as corrupt as it has in America these days, what do people expect? These kinds of “revolution” attacks are just going to increase in the coming years, at some point it’s going to involve some kind of large, organized group that takes everyone by surprise with hundreds if not thousands ending up dead.I just wish enough people would realize that a non-violent revolution is all that's needed. Have a few million people head to DC and take over the town until changes are made. What's our military going to do? Turn us into another Ukraine or Syria? Doubtful. Every great civilization has collapsed and we'll be no different, the only question is when our collapse will be complete.

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    • Anonymous

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      I'm not trying to say what these people did was right, obviously, but when government/big business has become as corrupt as it has in America these days, what do people expect? These kinds of "revolution" attacks are just going to increase in the coming years, at some point it's going to involve some kind of large, organized group that takes everyone by surprise with hundreds if not thousands ending up dead.I just wish enough people would realize that a non-violent revolution is all that's needed. Have a few million people head to DC and take over the town until changes are made. What's our military going to do? Turn us into another Ukraine or Syria? Doubtful. Every great civilization has collapsed and we'll be no different, the only question is when our collapse will be complete.

      I agree with that to some degree

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    • Anonymous

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      long rap sheet:Public records from Washington state show that Miller was still in his teens when he started getting into trouble, with a 2001 felony conviction for auto theft.He also racked up eight other arrests for phone harassment, driving under the influence, malicious mischief, obstructing a law enforcement officer and assault between 2001 and 2003.By 2007, Miller was living in Indiana, where records show that in 2007 he was charged with criminal Recklessness, pointing a firearm, intimidation, and possession of marijuana.Two years later, he was arrested for felony battery, and the year after that, he was arrested for dealing marijuana. In 2011, an arrest for strangulation and battery was added to his rap sheethttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/vegas-cop-killers/vegas-cop-killer-jerad-miller-had-long-rap-sheet-n127546blaming everyone but himself . . . he was the victim

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    • Anonymous

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      long rap sheet:Public records from Washington state show that Miller was still in his teens when he started getting into trouble, with a 2001 felony conviction for auto theft.He also racked up eight other arrests for phone harassment, driving under the influence, malicious mischief, obstructing a law enforcement officer and assault between 2001 and 2003.By 2007, Miller was living in Indiana, where records show that in 2007 he was charged with criminal Recklessness, pointing a firearm, intimidation, and possession of marijuana.Two years later, he was arrested for felony battery, and the year after that, he was arrested for dealing marijuana. In 2011, an arrest for strangulation and battery was added to his rap sheethttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/vegas-cop-killers/vegas-cop-killer-jerad-miller-had-long-rap-sheet-n127546blaming everyone but himself . . . he was the victim

      So, to sum it all up, he was a piece of sh*t.

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    • Anonymous

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      Yep

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    • brycen54

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      It has been pointed out that no one did anything when seeing these people with a shopping cart full of guns. How is it that bystanders are made culpable, but the people whose job it is to do something are not held to account? How is it that the cited list of transgressions can occur, including a firearm offense, yet this person can go out and purchase guns? It is illegal for a convicted felon to own firearms. Where is the enforcement of this law? If we’re not going to bother enforcing the laws we already have to prevent situations like this, what can we expect to gain by passing more unenforced laws?Can responsible, law-abiding citizens be expected to give up their rights and receive no advantage in return?

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    • Anonymous

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      If we're not going to bother enforcing the laws we already have to prevent situations like this,

      I have not seen any info on where he got the guns, but do you have some information that suggests that someone did not "bother" to enforce an existing gun law? As an aside, the typical gun argument that "we need to enforce the laws already on the books" is really more of a talking point than anything. The laws currently on the books are not designed to effectively prevent someone from getting a gun  . . . . that is really the point of most of these discussions. Here, want to buy an AR, no questions asked:http://www.reddit.com/r/gunsforsalehttp://www.armslist.com/classifieds/florida/rifles

      Can responsible, law-abiding citizens be expected to give up their rights and receive no advantage in return?

      who said you had to give up your gun?what right do you give up by having universal background checks?  The Supreme Court says none, but I am curious why you phrase it that way?  Is there a right to have an assault rifle?  The Supreme Court says there is not. Is there a right to buy a gun without a waiting period, the Supreme Court says no. If you are a "responsible, law-abiding citizen" shouldn't the goal be to keep the weapons out of the bad guys hands? Didn't even you say that more guns  . .  in the wrong hands . .  equals more gun violence?  By the way, Obama agrees with you . . bet you don't hear that often :-)

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    • Anonymous

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      On the guns:"A month before a married couple allegedly gunned down two police officers and a bystander in Las Vegas, suspect Jerad Miller went on Facebook looking for a gun. Any gun would do, Miller wrote, as long as it worked on the "evil tyrant bastards."On May 8, Miller posted the following on Facebook:Screen%20Shot%202014-06-09%20at%207.46.51%20PM.pngFacebook users soon chimed in to help Miller with his request. One person replied, "ak47." A second asked, "What happened to urs?" A third offered, "What are you looking for."Miller replied, "Doesn't matter, bolt action, semi, anything that can reach out and touch evil tyrant bastards. Idc if its a hundred dollar pink 22 rifle lol."A fourth person chimed in that the "Gun store has plenty of rifles." Miller replied, "We broke bro, believe me if we had the money we would be at some of the best gun stores in the country buying what we need. Idc if its a ww2 m4 lol. something for when they call us terrorists, we can defend ourselves."A fifth person recognized that the conversation was entering potentially illegal territory, and recommended that Miller hide his identity. "You and I both know that you shouldn't be using Facebook for this. Get yourself a tor router and be anonymous like the constitution always intended," the person wrote. Miller replied, "lol im just fucking around."But according to authorities, Miller wasn't "just fucking around"—five people, including Miller and his wife, Amanda, are now dead. While we don't know if the Millers were successful in obtaining any guns through Facebook, the fact that the post is still up raises questions about how well Facebook's effort to crack down on illegal gun sales is working. In March, the social network announced that it would start deleting posts that offer to buy or sell guns without background checks. At the time, it wasn't clear how Facebook planned to enforce the new guidelines.  (As of 2012, Miller and his wife were not allowed to own guns because of his criminal record, according to Miller's post on the conspiracy-peddling website, Infowars.)"We are sickened to learn that the Las Vegas shooter attempted to obtain a rifle through Facebook. The post has remained live on Facebook for a month, demonstrating the inadequacy of Facebook's gun policy," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, in a statement. "Facebook continues to make it too easy for dangerous people to find guns and should prohibit gun sales outright."In a statement sent to Buzzfeed, a Facebook spokesperson said: "While this online discussion is certainly disturbing in light of recent events, we have not been made aware of any connection to an actual gun transaction offline."

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    • Anonymous

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      pretty long discussion of the event:http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/shooters-carried-arsenal-supplies-sunday-rampage

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    • Anonymous

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      Oh boy:In January the Millers were interviewed by federal law enforcement officers after they threatened to “shoot up” a Department of Motor Vehicles office in Indiana, according to a law enforcement official in Las Vegas.In Las Vegas, the two were known to dress up as comic-book characters and pose with tourists for tips on Fremont Street. They can be seen in photos made up as the Joker and his girlfriend, Harley Quinn, from the Batman series. Jerad also recorded a rambling YouTube video dressed as the Joker.Rambling and adamant was his style.A bookstore owner said he had a run-in with the Millers just days before the murders when they came into his shop looking for the dystopian novel “Animal Farm.”Academy Fine Books owner Gary Frick said he got caught in a short but dramatic debate with Jerad.Frick said the hot-headed 31-year-old covered everything from Bundy to the Declaration of Independence to the morality of pornography, guns and drugs in a span of less than 15 minutes. He kept misquoting things and incorrectly using words, Frick said, all the while sounding very sure of himself.And he didn’t like when the bookstore owner pushed back.“He liked to argue, but he didn’t want to be argued with,” Frick said. :)

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    • brycen54

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      Yeah, your views are legit, everyone else’s are just talking points. Screw you, Beilman.

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    • Anonymous

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      Yeah, your views are legit, everyone else's are just talking points. Screw you, Beilman.

      lol, my view is that "enforce existing laws" is a talking point and I explained why that was my view. I also never said my views are "legit,"  I just offered them because . . .  well  . . its a message board.

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    • Anonymous

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      How many threads can the OP start on the same exact subject?  This schmuck is worse than Thomas/OneTruth.

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    • Anonymous

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      How many threads can the OP start on the same exact subject?  This schmuck is worse than Thomas/OneTruth.

      seriously, that is what you're complaining about now?  Hell, you couldn't even read the last thread correctly, so why do you even care how many threads there are?https://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1316693.105.htmlBuggsy, why cant you control yourself? Why is it that you can only post about me?

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    • Anonymous

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      Yes, I misread the thread.  That’s why you went on one of your patented string-posting hissy fits.

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    • Anonymous

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      Yes, I misread the thread.  That's why you went on one of your patented string-posting hissy fits.

      Buggys, . . . .  my "string posting hissy fit" (lol - actually quoting past comments) was my way of explaining to you - in almost a "paint by numbers" way --  that you got the comments wrong.  In your haste to make some sarcastic remark  . . .you got the FACTS wrong.  You chastised me for something I never said:

      You can "lol" all you want to, Counselor, but SackedBySapp is 100% accurate.  The President did break the law.Whether that law is constitutional or not is another matter, but the law was broken.

      1. I never said the President did NOT break the law2. the law you are referencing was not even the one being discussed in Constitutional termslmao, now if you are not man enough to admit that you were wrong then that is on you . . . . which, I guess, explains why you keep posting about me

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    • Anonymous

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      Just in case anyone missed this,lol

      In January the Millers were interviewed by federal law enforcement officers after they threatened to “shoot up” a Department of Motor Vehicles office in Indiana, according to a law enforcement official in Las Vegas.In Las Vegas, the two were known to dress up as comic-book characters and pose with tourists for tips on Fremont Street. They can be seen in photos made up as the Joker and his girlfriend, Harley Quinn, from the Batman series. Jerad also recorded a rambling YouTube video dressed as the Joker.Rambling and adamant was his style.A bookstore owner said he had a run-in with the Millers just days before the murders when they came into his shop looking for the dystopian novel “Animal Farm.”Academy Fine Books owner Gary Frick said he got caught in a short but dramatic debate with Jerad.Frick said the hot-headed 31-year-old covered everything from Bundy to the Declaration of Independence to the morality of pornography, guns and drugs in a span of less than 15 minutes. He kept misquoting things and incorrectly using words, Frick said, all the while sounding very sure of himself.And he didn’t like when the bookstore owner pushed back.“He liked to argue, but he didn’t want to be argued with,” Frick said. :)

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    • Anonymous

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      Yes, I misread the thread.  That's why you went on one of your patented string-posting hissy fits.

      Buggys, . . . .  my "string posting hissy fit" (lol - actually quoting past comments) was my way of explaining to you - in almost a "paint by numbers" way --  that you got the comments wrong.  In your haste to make some sarcastic remark  . . .you got the FACTS wrong.  You chastised me for something I never said:

      You can "lol" all you want to, Counselor, but SackedBySapp is 100% accurate.  The President did break the law.Whether that law is constitutional or not is another matter, but the law was broken.

      1. I never said the President did NOT break the law2. the law you are referencing was not even the one being discussed in Constitutional termslmao, now if you are not man enough to admit that you were wrong then that is on you . . . . which, I guess, explains why you keep posting about me

      Hey Buggsy:MuhammadAliPictureQuoteSilenceIsGolden.jpgdon't worry, I accept your apology . .  again

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    • Anonymous

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      well, looks like the cops got a little revengehttp://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/justice/las-vegas-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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    • Anonymous

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      Not exactly comforting.

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    • Anonymous

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      agree

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