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    • jbear

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      https://greenwald.substack.com/p/biden-reversing-trump-permits-a-key?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNDUyNzU2NSwicG9zdF9pZCI6MzY1OTM0OTUsIl8iOiI4bFMxaiIsImlhdCI6MTYyMTQzNjAyMywiZXhwIjoxNjIxNDM5NjIzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMTI4NjYyIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.3-oNMvVnvYh0_jJFL2FstFKAzP6ZfmxcfHtKjUl7gWI

      So essential to the “Trump is a danger” narrative at the time was this story still clung to by many leftists who are fed lies on a daily basis while ironically mocking Trump supporters for being fed lies on a daily basis and believing them.

      I know that you all firmly believe that Trump was a danger the whole time no matter what I say but the fact is that it’s already proven that the Russia narrative is completely false and was never substantiated and yet we got three years of investigation out of it. Not to mention the daily temper tantrums from Fire and Karma.

    • jbear

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      Glen Greenwald ~

      “Any minimally rational or honest media would have taken note of these events and instantly realized that their years-long conspiracy theory about Trump being controlled by Putin was sophomoric nonsense, the opposite of the truth. That a Putin-controlled Russian asset would send lethal arms to Ukraine and do everything possible to sabotage Nord Stream 2 is so blatantly absurd that it could be ratified only by a media aggressively committed to spreading disinformation and lies.”

    • KarmaPolice

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      Lol. A thread that is a straw man

      Good thing it’s in bed

    • jbear

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      Lol. A thread that is a straw man

      Good thing it’s in bed

      You know damned well that you posted dozens of threads that implied that Trump was compromised by Russia. I can remember several including one where you were outraged that Trump was allowed to be in a room with another foreign leader (Putin) without any advisors to make sure he didn’t get on his knees and suck Vlad off.

      F*%$ you Karma. Sometimes you’re just too much. “Straw man” What a douche.

    • jbear

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      Made my morning Karma. I post a reasonable thread about the bullshit you were invaluable in helping to spread over the last 4 years and rather than discussing it like a man you pretend you can’t remember. lol

      Of course you don’t remember. Well everyone else does, and that includes Fire and your other lackeys. They know just as you know.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Greenwald with something pro-Trump?

      This is my shocked face!

      😲

    • FireLicht2020

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      “Completely false”…

      I’m dying over here…

      This is called confirmation bias.

      Is the Ukraine thing fake too?

      Insurrection fake? Just tourists right?

      His election intimidation fake too, right?

      Trump is just the victim in some grand deep state collusion!

      Jbear, what is your Parler handle?

    • KarmaPolice

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      already proven that the Russia narrative is completely false

      😁

      Co…..cooooooooooon

    • KarmaPolice

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      JBear – “Russia false … Hunter, true….. you dumb asses”

    • jbear

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      JBear – “Russia false … Hunter, true….. you dumb asses”

      Anonymous…. that would be you right?

      Here are just a few gems I dug up from July 17th of 2018.

      “Mueller is building an air tight case.
      Collusion has already been verified by Twitter, Facebook, and Google. Now it’s down to identifying the actors.”
      ======
      If you would investigate and research instead of watching internet porn and PHOXNews you would know that already.
      Tough on immigrants and allies but Russia … well, that’s our fault:
      ““Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!” Trump tweeted Monday morning as he prepared for his meeting with Putin”
      So, the US is to blame for?
      Crimea
      Ukraine
      MA-17
      Nerve agent attacks in London
      Syria
      Election hacking
      Hey Trumpettes, how are you people hawks when it comes anyone of color but doves when it comes to a country that has actually attacked us recently?
      July 17, 2018 Troops did not hate Bill Clinton, nonsense. Trump however is the least patriotic president in my lifetime.

      July 17, 20108 Trump loves Communist dictators. They are the best. Great people and great leaders. A+

      Do the Trumpettes here choose KGB over CIA/FBI?

      This is a common theme:

      Mueller’s hammer is going to come down hard on Trump. Brace yourselves right wingers.

      Trump, instead, dropped to his knees and proceeded to blow Putin in front of the entire globe.
      Weak, beta, fem…

    • jbear

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      In the meantime we have the third term of Obama the appeaser and nothing.

      All of this became even clearer on Tuesday when President Biden reversed Trump’s blockage of the Russian natural gas pipeline. Axios’ Jonathan Swan reported that “the Biden administration will waive sanctions on the corporate entity and CEO overseeing the construction of Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline into Germany,” which “indicates the Biden administration is not willing to compromise its relationship with Germany over this pipeline.” Swan wrote what is clearly true: “the completion of Nord Stream 2 would be a huge geopolitical win for Putin and give him substantial new leverage in Europe.”

      This “huge geopolitical win for Putin” is exactly what the Kremlin’s alleged asset in the White House spent years preventing and which Biden is now handing over. Indeed, this decision by the Biden administration directly contradicts the assurances which long-time anti-Russia hawk Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) extracted from Secretary of State Antony Blinken during Blinken’s January confirmation hearing. Cruz asked Blinken whether he would commit to maintain the efforts of the Trump administration and a bipartisan group of Senators to use sanctions to prevent completion of the Russian pipeline, and Blinken vowed that he would:

    • KarmaPolice

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      Lol. A thread that is a straw man

      Good thing it’s in bed

      You know damned well that you posted dozens of threads that implied that Trump was compromised by Russia. I can remember several including one where you were outraged that Trump was allowed to be in a room with another foreign leader (Putin) without any advisors to make sure he didn’t get on his knees and suck Vlad off.

      F*%$ you Karma. Sometimes you’re just too much. “Straw man” What a douche.

      its completely a strawman

      Its also classic Greenwald playing to a following of mostly over-amped mental midgets. The same mental midgets who back the GOPO saying its time to move one . . when it comes to the Insurrection lol

      Its also PROOF of the point I’ve made about Gruenwald many times: he is trying to get clicks by selling fake outrage. This is proof. all the things going on in the world and he has to not only go back in time and even then turn it into

      Fire is 1000% right about you and confirmation bias.. Greenwald is playing to you, not informing you.

    • KarmaPolice

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      That a Putin-controlled Russian asset would send lethal arms to Ukraine and do everything possible to sabotage Nord Stream 2

      Jbear, this sentence right above proves Greenwald is a clown selling absolute BS . . and you buy it

      1. Congress (not Trump) “sent lethal arms to Ukraine.” Trump tried to stop them FOR PERSONAL PILITICAL GAIN. No one says he did that to help Putin. everyone says it would’ve, which is what makes his action that much more criminal

      2. Trump didn’t “do everything possible to sabotage Nord Stream 2” to hurt Putin. LOL. he did it to hurt Germany (not paying their bills, same as troops) and to help US fracking/gas producers. Biden is waiving some of the sanctions on one group of contractors to repair relations with Germany

    • TheChronicHotAir

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      JBear – “Russia false … Hunter, true….. you dumb asses”

      Anonymous…. that would be you right?

      Here are just a few gems I dug up from July 17th of 2018.

      “Mueller is building an air tight case.
      Collusion has already been verified by Twitter, Facebook, and Google. Now it’s down to identifying the actors.”
      ======
      If you would investigate and research instead of watching internet porn and PHOXNews you would know that already.
      Tough on immigrants and allies but Russia … well, that’s our fault:
      ““Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!” Trump tweeted Monday morning as he prepared for his meeting with Putin”
      So, the US is to blame for?
      Crimea
      Ukraine
      MA-17
      Nerve agent attacks in London
      Syria
      Election hacking
      Hey Trumpettes, how are you people hawks when it comes anyone of color but doves when it comes to a country that has actually attacked us recently?
      July 17, 2018 Troops did not hate Bill Clinton, nonsense. Trump however is the least patriotic president in my lifetime.

      July 17, 20108 Trump loves Communist dictators. They are the best. Great people and great leaders. A+

      Do the Trumpettes here choose KGB over CIA/FBI?

      This is a common theme:

      Mueller’s hammer is going to come down hard on Trump. Brace yourselves right wingers.

      Trump, instead, dropped to his knees and proceeded to blow Putin in front of the entire globe.
      Weak, beta, fem…

      Burn.

      Virgil_Hoax, the loserfgt.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Jbear logic:

      Ukraine QPQ and Russia collusion aren’t real because…

      The GOP is protecting Trump?

      Just like OJ was innocent, right?

      Yet Hunter Biden is a slam dunk case?

      Jbear’s house is on fire and he points out that the gutters are full…

      It’s insanity what you deem fact from fiction… innocent from guilty.

      And you love that Greenwald clickbait… and he’s playing you for your views (and me for that matter).

      There’s a good Twitter handle that tracks Greenwald’s topics/posts/criticisms

      • jbear

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        There is a whole bunch here that I never said. Hunter is a slam dunk case? Yeah I guess if you’re talking about the case that Joe Biden’s only son is a complete douchebag who has tried to leverage his father’s success into big money then yes of course it’s a slam dunk.

        But what I think you mean is that I said it’s a slam dunk that Hunter’s emails proved that Joe Biden knew about everything and actively participated in selling influence then no I did not.

        Ukraine phone call happened. I only ever said it didn’t rise to impeachment unless you’re just out for blood and political points. In a rational congress that’s a censure all day long.

        But yes, Greenwald is awesome.

      • FireLicht2020

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        Then naturally you are angry at the Trump kids 1000x over Hunter?

        Oh wait, you defended them.

        I bet you’re thrilled that Guliani’s boy is running for mayor… nothing shaddy there!

        QPQ, yeah it happened but I’ll be a coward like the GQP and say “Don, did you learn your lesson? Can we move on”.

        Clearly Don learned his lesson after Russia… oh wait then Ukraine. Oh wait then election intimidation… oh wait, then inciting a riot.

        All perfectly normal behaviors of the POTUS and def a reason to cast your vote to defeat the evil socialist Biden!

    • TheChronicHotAir

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      Virgil_Goober got CATFISHED on the DeSantis “whistleblower” story too… lol

    • FireLicht2020

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      God bless the winners. Smite the losers.

      Let’s FINALLY make America great again through diversity, science, and accountability!

      God bless all the winners, and Biden’s 100% approval rating!

    • KarmaPolice

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      That a Putin-controlled Russian asset would send lethal arms to Ukraine and do everything possible to sabotage Nord Stream 2

      Jbear, this sentence right above proves Greenwald is a clown selling absolute BS . . and you buy it

      1. Congress (not Trump) “sent lethal arms to Ukraine.” Trump tried to stop them FOR PERSONAL PILITICAL GAIN. No one says he did that to help Putin. everyone says it would’ve, which is what makes his action that much more criminal

      2. Trump didn’t “do everything possible to sabotage Nord Stream 2” to hurt Putin. LOL. he did it to hurt Germany (not paying their bills, same as troops) and to help US fracking/gas producers. Biden is waiving some of the sanctions on one group of contractors to repair relations with Germany

      so @JBear

      agree or disagree?

      I took the time to point out two Greenwald falsehoods (“strawmen”) and nothing in response?

      • spartan

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        1. Trumps reason was not political. He thought the Ukraine should pay for the missiles themselves and shouldn’t be “aid” from the USA. I think you can make the argument that this was somewhat short sighted, but not politically motivated from what I can ascertain. See this. Not exactly Trump friendly but puts things into perspective by all accounts:

        https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/15/trump-resisted-ukraine-sale-javelin-antitank-missile/

        I’ve seen other articles that say the same thing.

        2. If Trump truly was in bed with the Russians the “real” reason is irrelevant. The Russians would have said no, since they have a huge cat in the game, and he would have complied. It would appear that having a major impact on the Russian economy and a major political lever over a highly influential Western European country like Germany (See Russia turning off the gas to the Ukraine), would suggest the influence the Russians had over Trump was minimal at best.

    • KarmaPolice

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      1. Trumps reason was not political. He thought the Ukraine should pay for the missiles themselves and shouldn’t be “aid” from the USA. I think you can make the argument that this was somewhat short sighted, but not politically motivated from what I can ascertain. See this. Not exactly Trump friendly but puts things into perspective by all accounts:

      https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/15/trump-resisted-ukraine-sale-javelin-antitank-missile/

      I’ve seen other articles that say the same thing.

      2. If Trump truly was in bed with the Russians the “real” reason is irrelevant. The Russians would have said no, since they have a huge cat in the game, and he would have complied. It would appear that having a major impact on the Russian economy and a major political lever over a highly influential Western European country like Germany (See Russia turning off the gas to the Ukraine), would suggest the influence the Russians had over Trump was minimal at best.

      Bwahaha

    • KarmaPolice

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      Flynn was innocent

    • TheChronicHotAir

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      13 Threads… Virgil_Catfish is GOING OFF!!

      #unhinged
      #try~decaf

    • spartan

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      Bwahaha

      Bwahaha what?

      Or is this another version of the “my premises has been totally destroyed AGAIN, so I’m going to ignore it AGAIN!” response?

    • FireLicht2020

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      It’s funny because everything Trump does, he does for himself…

    • KarmaPolice

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      destroyed

      Feel free to take it that way but I mean that your post isn’t really serious. Like “Flynn is innocent”

    • spartan

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      destroyed

      Feel free to take it that way but I mean that your post isn’t really serious. Like “Flynn is innocent”

      Respond then

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