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    • michael89156

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      QBs in Focus: Mike GlennonProFootballFocus.comSteve Palazzolo | July 9, 2014 glennon_zps84603989.pngThough we certainly miss football during the offseason, it’s always a good time to take a step back and analyze our plethora of data. We’re often so busy grading and collecting data during the season that we’re unable to put a lot of the information to good use. With that said, we’ve decided to declare June as “QB Month” as we break down NFL quarterbacks every which way. We’re going to examine quarterbacks from a number of situations before looking at each of them individually. The grades and numbers should reveal each quarterback’s strengths and weaknesses from the 2013 season. As we go through this series, it’s important to understand the relationship between QB Rating (NFL’s version) and PFF Grade. While QB Rating is obviously supposed to be a QB statistic, it’s actually a better gauge of what the entire offense did in a given situation. This is the type of information that is actually extremely valuable to our NFL team customers as their game planning efforts must go towards stopping an entire passing offense, not just the quarterback. If the quarterback throws an easy dump off pass to the RB who then weaves through the defense for the touchdown, it’s certainly not a great indicator of quarterbacking skill as it is the running back and defense accounting for the majority of the work on the play. Of course the QB Rating will look quite shiny in that situation. On the other hand, PFF Grade is a good indicator of how well the quarterback actually performed in a given situation. Whether they throw an accurate pass that was dropped, or perhaps an inaccurate one that should have been intercepted and the defense dropped, the PFF grade will account for those situations with a positive and a negative grade respectively while QB Rating will simply reflect the 0-for-1 passing. It’s important to distinguish between QB Rating and PFF grade, though there’s a good chance they’ll match up in most situations. After taking a look at the entire league in various situations, it’s time to break down each quarterback individually. Mike GlennonAll categories with a * are normalized so that the league average is 0.0. Positives •  Best down was first down: +3.4. •  Also showed well on 2nd-and-Medium (+2.6). •  Second-highest grade on passes in 21-to-30-yard range at +9.6. •  Graded at +4.1 on throws between the numbers. •  Among the league’s best when throwing to tight ends (+7.6). •  Showed well on comebacks +2.8, corner routes (+3.2), and crossing routes (+2.6). Negatives •  Graded at -6.1 on second down and -4.3 on third down. •  Struggled on throws in the intermediate (11-to-20-yard) range (-9.2) and graded at -3.3 on passes traveling at least 30 yards in the air. •  Graded at -2.3 on throws outside the numbers to the left. •  Among the league’s worst when pressured (-16.2). •  One of the league’s lowest grades on out routes (-5.4). •  Graded at -2.4 on drop-backs lasting 2.6-to-3.0 seconds and -3.2 on drop-backs lasting at least 3.6 seconds. •  Struggled on 7-to-8-yard drop-backs (-5.4). •  Graded at -12.6 against the blitz including -7.7 on third-down blitzes. Tendencies •  30.8% of drop-backs came from under center; above the league average of 24.9%. •  Was blitzed 33.1% of the time; above the league average of 30.8%. •  39.9% of drop-backs resulted in pressure from a traditional rush; third-highest in the league. •  50.3% of blitzes led to pressure; fourth-highest in the league. •  Ranked fifth with 60.5% of drop-backs going to 7-8 yards and only dropped back 4-6 yards 10.3% of the time; eighth-lowest in the league. •  6.3% of passes traveled at least 30 yards in the air; sixth-highest in the league. •  Threw 52.9% of passes in the 1-to-10-yard range; above the league average of 49.3%. •  Threw screens only 3.7% of the time; lowest in the league. •  Threw a higher percentage of passes outside the numbers to the left (24.9%) than he did to the right (20.9%). •  Only 7.6% of passes went to inline tight ends; sixth-lowest in the league. •  Threw a league-high 18.6% of his passes to running backs on non-screens.link

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    • Anonymous

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      •  Among the league’s best when throwing to tight ends (+7.6).

      ASJ success !

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    • brycen54

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

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    • Anonymous

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

      Totally agree

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    • Anonymous

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      Interesting…I agree - poor oline play/planning.but these are the type numbers one would expect with a rookie QB that has some upside.Pretty decent statistical (comparative) analysis.

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      Here’s Josh McCowns:Positives•  Graded at +6.5 on passes in 11-20-yard range.•  Showed well on 2nd-and-Long (+3.9) and 3rd-and-Long (+4.4).•  Threw well to the middle (+9.9) and right (+6.4).•  Posted league’s highest grade when pressured: +8.9.•  Graded well against the blitz (+9.0) and against a traditional rush (+8.5).•  Was at his best on 7-to-8-yard drop-backs (+15.7).•  Excelled in the 2.6-to 3.0-second range (+12.5).•  Graded at +18.1 when throwing to wide receivers (by alignment) including +9.5 to the slot and +8.6 to outside wide receivers.•  Best routes were hitches (+5.9) and go routes (+7.0).Negatives•  Graded at -1.4 on designed rollouts.•  Posted an average +0.1 grade on passes in the 31-to-40-yard range.•  Graded at -0.9 on 4-to-6-yard drop-backs.•  Graded at -0.6 on slants and -0.9 on post routes.Tendencies•  Faced the blitz only 27.6% of the time, eighth-lowest in the league.•  Above the league average with 21.4% of drop-backs coming in the 4-to-6-yard range.•  17.3% of drop-backs lasted 3.1-3.5 seconds, highest percentage in the league.•  Threw only 40.1% of passes outside the numbers, sixth-lowest in the league.•  Threw 78.3% of passes to wide receivers (by alignment), fourth-highest in the league.•  Threw only 14.5% of passes to tight ends, tied for the lowest percentage in the league.•  11.6% of targets were slants, second-highest in the league.

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    • Anonymous

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

      I just wonder if our line will be any better.

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    • Anonymous

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

      There were other reasons.  The biggest was having zero experience IMO, but the data does point straight at the OL.

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    • Anonymous

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

      Agreed, especially considering this...Graded at -2.4 on drop-backs lasting 2.6-to-3.0 seconds and -3.2 on drop-backs lasting at least 3.6 seconds.We all know a line should be able to protect the QB for 3, maybe 4 minutes while they make all their reads and get comfortable.

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    • brycen54

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      •  39.9% of drop-backs resulted in pressure from a traditional rush; third-highest in the league. •  50.3% of blitzes led to pressure; fourth-highest in the league.You just mad 'cause the coach has the same first name as your mom, Leo.

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    • Anonymous

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      •  Threw screens only 3.7% of the time; lowest in the league.I'm looking forward to changing this

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    • Anonymous

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      Glennon really struggled to read defenses and DCs took more and more advantage of that as the season went on.  Defenders were coming in unblocked far too often.

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    • brycen54

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      Was Glennon the one calling blocking schemes or are you just assuming?

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    • Anonymous

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      I thought it was said Zuttah made the line calls?

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    • brycen54

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      It was Zuttah, but bradentonian eagerly embraces anything that will confirm his anti-Glennon bias.

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    • Anonymous

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      I thought it was said Zuttah made the line calls?

      It's not Zuttah's job to identify coverages and rushers.

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    • brycen54

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      “He’s a strong guy, but there’s a lot of strong guys,” Schiano said. “He’s very intelligent, he can learn things very quickly and grasp concepts. A lot of times, with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you’re going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that, it kind of calms everybody else down and that’s what we’re counting on from Jeremy.”

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    • Anonymous

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      I thought it was said Zuttah made the line calls?

      It's not Zuttah's job to identify coverages and rushers.

      Get on level.

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      "He's a strong guy, but there's a lot of strong guys," Schiano said. "He's very intelligent, he can learn things very quickly and grasp concepts. A lot of times, with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you're going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that, it kind of calms everybody else down and that's what we're counting on from Jeremy."

      The center identifies the base alignment and often the Mike.  However the QB determines the coverages and blitzers, because the center can't do that when they are shifting around, specifically in shotgun when he puts his head down to look for the snap signal

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    • Anonymous

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      gimme the guy that keeps the chains moving, plz!!!

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      "He's a strong guy, but there's a lot of strong guys," Schiano said. "He's very intelligent, he can learn things very quickly and grasp concepts. A lot of times, with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you're going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that, it kind of calms everybody else down and that's what we're counting on from Jeremy."

      The center identifies the base alignment and often the Mike.  However the QB determines the coverages and blitzers, because the center can't do that when they are shifting around, specifically in shotgun when he puts his head down to look for the snap signal

      maybe he's got a camera mounted to the top of his helmet

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    • brycen54

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        “…with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you’re going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that…” Right there, in English, it clearly says that the center is to identify blitzers. Now I know you're not as stupid as you're pretending to be, so what's with the charade? Or is it that anything Glennon related makes your little brain go hazy?

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    • Anonymous

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      Haters mad.

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    • Anonymous

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      Positives •  Second-highest grade on passes in 21-to-30-yard range at +9.6."run the ball and take shots down the field" would have worked if not for the injuries to the TE's, RB's and G.  Lorig, who was a very successful lead blocker,  even had to move to "inline" TE in some games for lack of blocking TE's.  It's the lack of running game that stymied the offense and thus effected every other aspect of the team.

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    • Anonymous

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      It’s all up to what you value…http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/07/11/what-the-texans-could-be-in-2014-part-5/

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    • Anonymous

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        "...with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you're going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that..." Right there, in English, it clearly says that the center is to identify blitzers. Now I know you're not as stupid as you're pretending to be, so what's with the charade? Or is it that anything Glennon related makes your little brain go hazy?

      You're both right, but you're talking about two different things.  The Center calls out pass protections, yes.  But it's the QB's job to identify the defense, read coverages, and make his throws based on that.  That's what the numbers in this thread are evaluating.  The OL evaluations are a different discussion.  These numbers are about when the OL doens't do their job, how does the QB handle it.

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        "...with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you're going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that..." Right there, in English, it clearly says that the center is to identify blitzers. Now I know you're not as stupid as you're pretending to be, so what's with the charade? Or is it that anything Glennon related makes your little brain go hazy?

      It's so strange how he suddenly forgot how to do it once Glennon was under center

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    • brycen54

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      Yeah, cause he was just outstanding under Freeman. So outstanding in fact, that the first thing the new administration did was get rid of him... and kept Glennon, while you wept.

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    • Anonymous

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      Three starting linemen, including Zuttah, are gone….. annnnd you throw a green as a spring forest QB into that situation and the result is predictable.  Fug this argument. Let’s just wait and see how the Cannon does in camp. It’s a new year.

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    • Anonymous

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        "...with all the different blitz looks you get in this day and age of football, you really need someone who understands concepts because you're going to get new looks. But if your center can identify and communicate that..." Right there, in English, it clearly says that the center is to identify blitzers. Now I know you're not as stupid as you're pretending to be, so what's with the charade? Or is it that anything Glennon related makes your little brain go hazy?

      It's so strange how he suddenly forgot how to do it once Glennon was under center

      Yeah, as a five year vet, Glennon has been a huge disappointment.

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    • Anonymous

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

      Not Really....He sucked even when he had time to throw....Profootball Focus-QBs in Focus: Time To Throwhttps://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/16/qbs-in-focus-time-to-throw/He is a bottom feeder...

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    • Anonymous

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      More than anything else, this paints a picture of a very poor offensive line.

      Not Really....He sucked even when he had time to throw....Profootball Focus-QBs in Focus: Time To Throwhttps://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/16/qbs-in-focus-time-to-throw/He is a bottom feeder...

      In the end, he was a rookie with no talent around him last season.  He's a smart, hard worker that seems to like the new system Tedford has brought in.  He's going to improve.

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    • Anonymous

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      http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/2014/07/11/5-fantasy-football-sophomores-who-will-exceed-expectations-in-2014/

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      http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/2014/07/11/5-fantasy-football-sophomores-who-will-exceed-expectations-in-2014/

      You gotta listen to this guy, he's written one whole story on a fan blog. Obviously a football expert.

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      http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/2014/07/11/5-fantasy-football-sophomores-who-will-exceed-expectations-in-2014/

      You gotta listen to this guy, he's written one whole story on a fan blog. Obviously a football expert.

      Someone that has more perspective than angry Bucs fans that wished we had drafted into a five year train wreck.  Even keeled and trending upward, that's exactly where we are with Glennon.

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