Question about 3-4 Defense, DLine/OLB's/Edge Rushers

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  • #1178303
    Live4BUCS
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    So with all of the draft talk about what to do @ 5 and with the new 3-4 defense we’re running, i find that I really don’t know what a 3-4 Dline should look like. Can someone breakdown the type of player’s we need as the 3 down linemen? I’m getting confused because of all of the Ed Oliver/Quinnen Williams draft talk, but we already have Vea. Does this mean Oliver/Williams would line up on the outside and rush the passer (IE: Von Miller?).

    Right now i believe the Dline Looks like this
    Nassib – Vea/McCoy – JPP (or would McCoy move to the outside and replace Nassib?)

    If we draft Oliver/Williams
    Oliver/Will – Vea – Jpp

    What changes if we draft a Josh Allen? He’s a much different body type than Williams/Oliver.

    Where is Lavonte left in all of this?

    Pardon me for my lack of knowledge.

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    #1178309
    SCLOBERNOCKER
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    Nassib and JPP are both OLB in a 34 front. Nickle/Dime will have them as traditional ends in a 4 man front.

     

    Currently, in a 3 man front, you would likely see a line of:

    Gholston – Vea – McCoy  //  Nassib – David – ??? – JPP as the LB group

     

    Oliver and QW can really play any spot on the line in a 3 man front. Allen would obviously be an OLB and a hand in the dirt guy when we go nickle/dime.

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    #1178327
    Defense5599
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    Basically with a 3/4, you need a bowling ball guy in the middle as your nose tackle who can take on two blockers at a time on every play.   Vea fits that mold perfectly.  The two DE’s in a 3/4 would normally line up as DT’s in a 4/3.

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    #1178362
    Pennywise
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    Still be in nickle 70 % of time,just need versatile players..34 or 43 doesnt matter as much as it did years ago,when teams were in base the majority of time

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    #1178369
    Nobody
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    It sounds like our Base Nickel is going to be a One Gap 3-3-5.  Let us assume we have the below draft DL – Oliver, CB – Layne, ILB – Cashman.

     

    Our Base and Base 3-3-5 Nickel would look like this in terms of run fits/support.

     

    Open B – JPP (3 tech)

    Closed A – Vea (1 tech)

    Closed B – Oliver (3 tech)

    Open C/Cut-back and Boot – Nassib (On Ball WOLB)

    Force (Closed) – Barrett (On Ball SOLB)

    Open A/Scrape (to Closed) – LVD (Off Ball WILB)

    Closed C/Scrape (to Closed)  – Cashman/Whitehead/Bucannon (Off Ball SILB or Stacked SS)

    Layne/Davis – Boundary CBs

    VH3 – NCB

    Evans – FS

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    #1178371
    Havok904
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    #1178375
    Buc on the Move
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    Doesn’t sound so bad…

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