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TigerNet.com ?@ClemsonTigerNet 5m5 minutes agoReport: Lawson's shoulder flagged at NFL combine (@shaq_lawson90): http://bit.ly/1SVSHG9 #Clemson
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 4:16 pmPost count: 4140Dude’s not even on my board… for a litany of reasons.What is it with Clemson strength and conditioning issues?This is way too common a thread/theme for quite some time for there not to be a root cause.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 4:26 pmPost count: 4140
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 5:38 pmPost count: 3028
Im fine with him falling to us in the 2nd.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 5:43 pmPost count: 8983
Im fine with him falling to us in the 2nd.
Amen.Pick up Bosa, buckner, or jack in the first, and shaq in the second.Woooooooo![Takes off shirt, runs around swinging it over head]Then again, i just want the first two picks to be DL related.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 5:49 pmPost count: 1523
i would def take a flier on him and Jaylon Smith just not with our first pick.. It makes it that much more important to trade Glennon for a second that way we can snag both of these guys. i would call this the steal of the century if this happens.go bucs!!!
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 5:51 pmPost count: 1250
Dang I was one of the few that liked Lawson but not at 9 now with this news.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 5:58 pmPost count: 8983
Dang I was one of the few that liked Lawson but not at 9 now with this news.
It's bad news for him, for sure.But, the guy will eventually heal. And, IF he's super-talented, it might be alright to play the waiting game.It's one of the good ways to create loyalties to a team as well.I'm not thrilled with it, and i think they would be better off going elsewhere with their picks, but I'm also not talking, sitting with him, or looking closely at the injury, so idk. If they feel its worth it, it might be.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 6:16 pmPost count: 950
Someone needs to fire the strength and conditioning guy at Clemson.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 10:13 pmPost count: 2560
Dang I was one of the few that liked Lawson but not at 9 now with this news.
It's bad news for him, for sure.But, the guy will eventually heal. And, IF he's super-talented, it might be alright to play the waiting game.It's one of the good ways to create loyalties to a team as well.I'm not thrilled with it, and i think they would be better off going elsewhere with their picks, but I'm also not talking, sitting with him, or looking closely at the injury, so idk. If they feel its worth it, it might be.
1. We don’t know it’ll heal.2. While so many are scared of another Bowers or Adams, I'm scared of another Clayborn.
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InactiveMar. 17, 2016 at 11:30 pmPost count: 898
Tough news. He is the most complete 4-3 DE in the draft. Maybe we can get him in the 2nd
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 12:10 amPost count: 2560
No when a guy like this drops, you bypass him period. See Bowers, Price, et al.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 12:23 amPost count: 898
No when a guy like this drops, you bypass him period. See Bowers, Price, et al.
Noted Doc but we don't know anything about the "flagging." I don't pretend to have any idea what the issue is. It certainly didn't affect his play this year. Good thing every team passed on Gronk cuz of concerns with his back.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 12:50 amPost count: 2560
No when a guy like this drops, you bypass him period. See Bowers, Price, et al.
Noted Doc but we don't know anything about the "flagging." I don't pretend to have any idea what the issue is. It certainly didn't affect his play this year. Good thing every team passed on Gronk cuz of concerns with his back.
Ironically Doc is one of my family nicknames. But I digress; perhaps this is why Dodd is rated higher than Lawson in a lot of places. Dodd looks more physically fit. Very concerned.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 1:18 amPost count: 898
No when a guy like this drops, you bypass him period. See Bowers, Price, et al.
Noted Doc but we don't know anything about the "flagging." I don't pretend to have any idea what the issue is. It certainly didn't affect his play this year. Good thing every team passed on Gronk cuz of concerns with his back.
Ironically Doc is one of my family nicknames. But I digress; perhaps this is why Dodd is rated higher than Lawson in a lot of places. Dodd looks more physically fit. Very concerned.
I'm aware that I'm a lot higher on Lawson than many on here are. Anybody who rates Dodd higher than Lawson is fairly clueless IMO. Lawson plays a better power game, is more agile and is a more advanced pass rusher.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 1:32 amPost count: 1419
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now… Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 1:46 amPost count: 1250
Tough news. He is the most complete 4-3 DE in the draft. Maybe we can get him in the 2nd
I think you could get him later than that. Not sure I would touch him till atleast the 5th or at all.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 4:37 amPost count: 898
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 4:43 amPost count: 2560
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let’s see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 4:43 amPost count: 1571
I don’t think Lawson is worth the #9 even perfectly healthy, but let’s wait until we get a bit more info than ‘flagged’ before we scratch him off the board entirely.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 4:46 amPost count: 2560
I don't think Lawson is worth the #9 even perfectly healthy, but let's wait until we get a bit more info than 'flagged' before we scratch him off the board entirely.
Fair enough. Six weeks. A lot can happen in six weeks, good or bad.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 4:47 amPost count: 898
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let's see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
Haha agreed. Who knows maybe it's some awful shoulder condition and he is indeed undraftable. Just saying I liked him healthy
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:00 amPost count: 2560
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let's see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
Haha agreed. Who knows maybe it's some awful shoulder condition and he is indeed undraftable. Just saying I liked him healthy
Also fair enough. On one hand I agree; Lawson is more polished. He’s put more good stuff on tape. Otoh I’m more certain Dodd hasn’t peaked yet. But who knows. We may go DT and make this moot.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:06 amPost count: 10626
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let's see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
Haha agreed. Who knows maybe it's some awful shoulder condition and he is indeed undraftable. Just saying I liked him healthy
Also fair enough. On one hand I agree; Lawson is more polished. He's put more good stuff on tape. Otoh I'm more certain Dodd hasn't peaked yet. But who knows. We may go DT and make this moot.
PFF has Dodd rated as one of their most over rated draft prospects. For what its worth.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:41 amPost count: 2560
Shaq interview tonight. He said he’s good to go. Hmm. Dr. Spurzo you may be correct!
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:44 amPost count: 898
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let's see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
Haha agreed. Who knows maybe it's some awful shoulder condition and he is indeed undraftable. Just saying I liked him healthy
Also fair enough. On one hand I agree; Lawson is more polished. He's put more good stuff on tape. Otoh I'm more certain Dodd hasn't peaked yet. But who knows. We may go DT and make this moot.
PFF has Dodd rated as one of their most over rated draft prospects. For what its worth.
Dodd will be 24 when the season starts. He had 0 sacks in his first 24 games with Clemson. He did finish his career strong. He ran slow (4.86 with a 1.70 split) and at his pro day jumped 30.5 and 9.2 broad with a 4.44 short shuttle and 7.31 3-cone.Lawson ran 4.70 with a 1.64 split, jumped 33 with a 10.0 broad. He ran a very impressive 4.21 short shuttle and 7.16 3-cone. Shaq is the better athlete, the more polished product and he's two years younger.Also just saw this from Matt Miller Matt MillerVerified account?@nfldraftscoutShaq Lawson correction: That's at least a dozen teams PASSED him on physical. Sounds like 1-2 teams flagged him on shoulder.https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/710496466096283648
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:51 amPost count: 2560
Flagged is vague. It may also be that they saw him at a different time. Earlier perhaps?
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:56 amPost count: 898
Flagged is vague. It may also be that they saw him at a different time. Earlier perhaps?
Could be. Hopefully it means the issue is subsiding.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:59 amPost count: 10626
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let's see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
Haha agreed. Who knows maybe it's some awful shoulder condition and he is indeed undraftable. Just saying I liked him healthy
Also fair enough. On one hand I agree; Lawson is more polished. He's put more good stuff on tape. Otoh I'm more certain Dodd hasn't peaked yet. But who knows. We may go DT and make this moot.
PFF has Dodd rated as one of their most over rated draft prospects. For what its worth.
Dodd will be 24 when the season starts.
Myles Jack is only 20, will be 21 in Sept. That is quite a difference.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 4:48 pmPost count: 2697
You guys have to be out of your damn minds talking about drafting this guy now... Did some of yall just start following this team last year or what
You draft players not jerseys. Evaluate the player and put him on the board.
Agreed. As for Lawson, let's see what happens with six weeks of rehab DR. Spurzo. Lol.
Haha agreed. Who knows maybe it's some awful shoulder condition and he is indeed undraftable. Just saying I liked him healthy
Also fair enough. On one hand I agree; Lawson is more polished. He's put more good stuff on tape. Otoh I'm more certain Dodd hasn't peaked yet. But who knows. We may go DT and make this moot.
PFF has Dodd rated as one of their most over rated draft prospects. For what its worth.
Dodd will be 24 when the season starts.
Myles Jack is only 20, will be 21 in Sept. That is quite a difference.
No doubt a great player, but it would a wasted pick considering that there is a greater need for DL upgrades, bolstering the Secondary, the OL needing bodies, and even possibly a WR...
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 5:52 pmPost count: 2090
Saw on Twitter, from Josh Norris (Rotoworld), that it was the Jags who flagged his shoulder and was due to a dislocated shoulder his freshman year.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 7:33 pmPost count: 2188
Another Clemson DE… with an injury?! Hell no, not in round 1,2, or 3. No way.
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InactiveMar. 18, 2016 at 10:17 pmPost count: 2560
Saw on Twitter, from Josh Norris (Rotoworld), that it was the Jags who flagged his shoulder and was due to a dislocated shoulder his freshman year.
So basically it’s bogus. Sounds like they want him to drop to Round 2.
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InactiveMar. 20, 2016 at 8:12 pmPost count: 1571
Saw on Twitter, from Josh Norris (Rotoworld), that it was the Jags who flagged his shoulder and was due to a dislocated shoulder his freshman year.
I can see both sides here. I had a dislocated shoulder years ago myself and I can say with 100% certainty that they never fully heal. You just have to learn to deal with it.On the flip side, if it happened his freshman year he has apparently learned to deal with it.
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InactiveMar. 20, 2016 at 8:27 pmPost count: 2560
Saw on Twitter, from Josh Norris (Rotoworld), that it was the Jags who flagged his shoulder and was due to a dislocated shoulder his freshman year.
I can see both sides here. I had a dislocated shoulder years ago myself and I can say with 100% certainty that they never fully heal. You just have to learn to deal with it.On the flip side, if it happened his freshman year he has apparently learned to deal with it.
3 years later yes.
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