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    • Stagger Lee

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      Add this to the long list of Trump and Trumpette lies (“no quid pro quo”) now revealed

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-call-investigate-biden/index.html

      “During the roughly 40-minute call, Giuliani repeatedly told Yermak that Zelensky should publicly announce investigations into possible corruption by Biden in Ukraine, and into claims that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election to hurt Trump. (These separate claims are both untrue.)”

      The new audio demonstrates how Giuliani aggressively cajoled the Ukrainians to do Trump’s bidding. And it undermines Trump’s oft-repeated assertion that “there was no quid pro quo” where Zelensky could secure US government support if he did political favors for Trump.

      Over and over, Giuliani pressed for the investigations, according to the audio recording. Giuliani even said the US-Ukraine diplomatic relationship would improve if Zelensky launched the probes. Giuliani and Volker suggested during the call that a public announcement could clear the way for Zelensky’s much-desired visit to the US, or for in-person meetings with Giuliani.

      “That would clear the air really well,” Giuliani said, according to the recording. “And I think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible, I think, for me to talk to the President (Trump) to see what I can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put aside … I kinda think that this could be a good thing for having a much better relationship.”

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      “One of the Ukrainians who was listening into the phone call, ex-Zelensky adviser Igor Novikov, told CNN last month that Giuliani’s antics threatened Ukraine’s already-fragile national security situation.

      “We’re a country fighting an active war with Russia for many years,” he said. “So, anything to do with swapping favors within our bilateral relationship in exchange for trying to get us involved in US domestic politics is just wrong, on many levels, morally, ethically and probably even legally.”

    • Stagger Lee

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      @JBear and other Trumpers

      You actually started several threads when Rudy tried to spread the Hunter laptop story, so how can you be silent now?

    • FireLicht2020

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      You cannot expect jbear to have any integrity here about Guliani.

      He’s part of the cocoon that inherently cannot admit defeat or else the house of cards collapses.

      Remember how certain he was about the NYP article on Hunter? Banging his pots and pans around and celebrating victory…

      Well the NYP got called out for what they are, right along with Guliani and all the other grifters.

      But the grifters are protected by other grifters, and anyone that goes after them (including the long-time right wing CIA and FBI) are now deep state operatives.

      It’s a giant circle

    • Stagger Lee

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      @Jbear thanks for sharing your comments on this, maybe Buggsy will be next

      :-)

    • Stagger Lee

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    • Stagger Lee

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      @JBear

    • Stagger Lee

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      Java will be upset about this, under any screen name

    • FireLicht2020

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      Funny how coffee re-emerges while jbear goes silent.

      Both of those profiles will avoid this thread like the scientific community avoids hydro

    • Stagger Lee

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      Have to think @JBear feels just like Lev

      The truth will set you free

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