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    • Skull and Bones

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      we shall see.  I wouldn’t be opposed.

    • Anonymous

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      If he gets drafted then he can re enter the draft. Its better for someone to not draft him.

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

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      Albert Breer ?@AlbertBreer  · 4m4 minutes ago  Best case for La'El Collins, I think, is still for him to be drafted as early as possible. A number of teams mulling it.Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter  · 13m13 minutes ago  LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.

    • Anonymous

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      Gil Brandt ?@Gil_Brandt  · 1h1 hour ago  I think La'el Collins gets drafted today. Doubt he would sit out entire year. Off scholarship, bills to pay.

    • Anonymous

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      If he gets drafted then he can re enter the draft. Its better for someone to not draft him.

      I would bet the chances of him sitting a season and training on his own are just north of nil.  The way the rookie contracts go, he would be hurting himself financially.  Getting to the second contract a season sooner >>>>>>>>>>>> a couple hundred k more per on his rookie deal.  He would not come back to be a first round pick after a year off.

    • Anonymous

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      Take him. Fill this team with linemen. Got a new franchise QB in town!

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

    • Anonymous

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      Very high risk (at the moment) – but I would give a 6th or 7th round pick

    • Anonymous

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      I am not a fan of picking him. It would be a mistake.

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

      Of course he will sign.  What indication do you have otherwise?

    • Anonymous

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      I am not a fan of picking him. It would be a mistake.

      Didn't like his film or clairvoyant?

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

      Of course he will sign.  What indication do you have otherwise?

      His agent has said he won’t.

    • Anonymous

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      Take him and pay him more than what a 4th rounder would normally get if he comes out clean. Simple

    • Anonymous

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      5th round yes

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

      Of course he will sign.  What indication do you have otherwise?

      His agent has said he won't.

      probably just trying to force teams to draft him yesterday.  didn’t work.  signing the contract is his best option IMO.  He’s not going to be a high pick if he sits out a year.

    • Anonymous

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      Take him and pay him more than what a 4th rounder would normally get if he comes out clean. Simple

      can you do that?  thought salaries were slotted.

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

      Of course he will sign.  What indication do you have otherwise?

      His agent has said he won't.

      I had not heard that.  What an idiotic thing for an agent to say.  I would fire him immediately.  Push his draft value down even further ass clown.  When the player is made to understand all that sitting a year would entail, he will sign with who ever drafts him imo.*Unless the agents is ready to front a couple hundred k to keep his client as ripe as possible in a very short shelf life profession.*

    • Anonymous

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      Take him and pay him more than what a 4th rounder would normally get if he comes out clean. Simple

      can you do that?  thought salaries were slotted.

      pretty sure you cant do that

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      @Gil_Brandt  ·  2h 2 hours agoIf I were #Bucs, I'd reserve 1st pick in Rnd 7 for Collins. Tampa would win the draft right there.WinstonD.SmithMarpetCollins

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      @Gil_Brandt  ·  3h 3 hours agoI think La'el Collins gets drafted today. Doubt he would sit out entire year. Off scholarship, bills to pay.

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      @Gil_Brandt  ·  2h 2 hours agoIf I were #Bucs, I'd reserve 1st pick in Rnd 7 for Collins. Tampa would win the draft right there.WinstonD.SmithMarpetCollins

      We traded it to the Raiders now. I doubt we would pick him though.

    • Anonymous

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      @Gil_Brandt  ·  2h 2 hours agoIf I were #Bucs, I'd reserve 1st pick in Rnd 7 for Collins. Tampa would win the draft right there.WinstonD.SmithMarpetCollins

      Or maybe the Raiders can do that now.

    • Anonymous

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      @Gil_Brandt  ·  2h 2 hours agoIf I were #Bucs, I'd reserve 1st pick in Rnd 7 for Collins. Tampa would win the draft right there.WinstonD.SmithMarpetCollins

      We traded it to the Raiders now. I doubt we would pick him though.

      don't we have more than one 7?

    • Anonymous

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      @Gil_Brandt  ·  2h 2 hours agoIf I were #Bucs, I'd reserve 1st pick in Rnd 7 for Collins. Tampa would win the draft right there.WinstonD.SmithMarpetCollins

      We traded it to the Raiders now. I doubt we would pick him though.

      don't we have more than one 7?

      Still a couple rounds before we get there.  Don't get too attached to that pick either. 

    • Anonymous

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      I think we should.  Little to lose

    • vlagatta

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

      LOL!  too funny........ Post Of The Month

    • Anonymous

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      we shall see.  I wouldn't be opposed.

      Nor would I.  The question is how high?  I would not be upset if he was our next pick tbh.

      Because you cannot think logically. If he's innocent he's not going to sign. If he's guilty we just knowingly drafted Rae Carruth.

      Of course he will sign.  What indication do you have otherwise?

      His agent has said he won't.

      probably just trying to force teams to draft him yesterday.  didn't work.  signing the contract is his best option IMO.  He's not going to be a high pick if he sits out a year.

      Marcus Peters sat out most of a year after being kicked off a team and went in the first. 

    • Anonymous

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      There’s just too much risk with this guy. Drafting him is a Dominick move, I’m not interested.

    • Anonymous

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      There's just too much risk with this guy. Drafting him is a Dominick move, I'm not interested.

      He blew out his knee too?

    • Anonymous

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      There's just too much risk with this guy. Drafting him is a Dominick move, I'm not interested.

      Don’t really understand the reasoningWhat is the % chance a 7th round pick is on the roster in 3 years? Less than 5%? He has 1st round talent. Even if you could calculate there is a 90% chance he is a murderer, thats still better odds than another 7th rounder succeeding.

    • Anonymous

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      If he is available, you take him with the next pick. This should be a no-brainer.

    • Anonymous

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      There's just too much risk with this guy. Drafting him is a Dominick move, I'm not interested.

      Don't really understand the reasoningWhat is the % chance a 7th round pick is on the roster in 3 years? Less than 5%? He has 1st round talent. Even if you could calculate there is a 90% chance he is a murderer, thats still better odds than another 7th rounder succeeding.

      After the statement from his agent that he won't play if not selected in the 2nd or 3rd round, I don't care. Dude is obviously an entitled douche. No thanks.

    • Anonymous

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      Just take Collins now.

    • Anonymous

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      There's just too much risk with this guy. Drafting him is a Dominick move, I'm not interested.

      Don't really understand the reasoningWhat is the % chance a 7th round pick is on the roster in 3 years? Less than 5%? He has 1st round talent. Even if you could calculate there is a 90% chance he is a murderer, thats still better odds than another 7th rounder succeeding.

      After the statement from his agent that he won't play if not selected in the 2nd or 3rd round, I don't care. Dude is obviously an entitled douche. No thanks.

      lol, ok

    • Anonymous

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      What Happens to La’el Collins Now?After not being drafted on Thursday or Friday, La’el Collins’ representatives have said he won’t play in 2015 and will re-enter next year’s draft. According to teams and agents, the offensive lineman’s situation isn’t so cut-and-dried In the case of La’el Collins, there are football interests, collective bargaining ramifications and public relations decisions worthy of scrutiny and discussion. But in doing so, we must not lose sight of the most important—and heinous—detail: a pregnant woman was shot and killed, and the baby, whom doctors delivered, died a week later; the killer is likely at large.That said, my expertise after polling teams and agents, is on the football side of things, so that’s what I’ll discuss here. And I’ll start with an educated guess: La’el Collins will get drafted today in Chicago.Before I explain, a recap: Collins, the former LSU offensive lineman, was invited to attend the draft and expected to go in the first round. On Friday, April 24, 29-year-old Brittney Mills, reportedly Collins’ ex-girlfriend, was shot to death in her Baton Rouge, La., home. The child, Brenton Mills, died one week later. Collins had arrived in Chicago for draft festivities this week but left the city in order to meet with police in Louisiana, who considered him a person of interest but not a suspect.Collins’ representation, led by Deryk Gilmore of Priority Sports, petitioned for Collins to be removed from the draft and placed in this summer’s supplemental draft for special cases. That petition was denied on the grounds of a hard and fast CBA rule: “No player may elect to bypass a draft for which he is eligible to apply for selection in a supplemental draft.”Fair enough.Then came this bombshell from the Collins camp: If drafted beyond round 3 (or not drafted at all), Collins would decline to sign, and would sit out the year and enter the 2016 draft. Ostensibly, the motivation would be to recoup the guaranteed cash he has lost by falling out of the first round.For the first scenario, there is precedent. Bo Jackson, drafted in 1986 by Tampa Bay, played a season of pro baseball rather than join the Bucs, and because he refused to sign a contract the team lost his rights before the next draft. The Raiders chose Jackson in the seventh round of the ’87 draft. Today the cutoff is Week 10, and you get thrown back into the next year’s draft pool.You can do that.But what if you’re not drafted, and you want to sit out a season and gain entry to the next draft? There’s no precedent, and zero language in the 2011 collective bargaining agreement providing for such a scenario. Media reports subsequent to Collins’ declaration have yet to touch on this, instead treating his assumed admission to the 2016 draft as a ’15 UDFA as a given.“It certainly is not automatic,” said one agent well-versed in the CBA. “There is obviously some language in the CBA that can lead to a rendering of an interpretation by the league on the issue. How valid an interpretation that is would have to be examined, and if a player thought it was not a correct interpretation he could bring a System Arbitration challenging it.”NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says the league’s stance is clear: “If he’s not drafted today? He would be the same as any other player in this draft. He becomes a free agent like any other undrafted player. You only go through one draft. If he’s drafted and sits out the year, he would go back into the 2016 draft.”Again, there is no language in the CBA for this scenario, complicating his prospects of winning any kind of argument with the league. All of which makes his agency’s declaration so peculiar. Why wouldn’t you want to get drafted, so you could have the option of sitting out a year and re-entering the draft?THE TRADE WAS NEVER CLOSE The Titans made sure everyone knew exactly what they thought of Marcus Mariota: He was always going to be their QB of the future You can table this question for now as we wait for the NFLPA to weigh in. The most valuable interpretation will come from the union’s counsel, who did not respond to an email Friday night. For now, a bigger, burning question: Why isn’t La’el Collins screaming his innocence from the rooftops?I can confirm that he and his attorney have spent the last several days on the phone with any team who will talk to him, explaining his side of things and his belief that the child was not his (no word on a paternity test so far). He also took a lie detector test organized by his reps Thursday, and passed, per Jason Cole. That’s what we’re hearing through back channels, but why aren’t we hearing it from the man himself?Consider the tragic case of Dennis Weathersby, the former Oregon State cornerback and projected first-round pick in the 2003 draft. The week of the draft, he was shot in the back in a drive-by shooting, and police concluded he and a companion were mistaken for someone else. The night before the draft, ESPN aired a piece on SportsCenter chronicling the bizarre turn of events, including an interview with Weathersby. Given expectations of a full recovery by doctors, the Bengals drafted him in the fourth round.Different strokes for different crisis managers, perhaps. If Collins is so distraught he’s unable or unwilling to compose himself for cameras, that wouldn’t jibe with making the audacious “don’t draft me” declaration.And despite all of this, I still think Collins will get drafted. At this point, I think most of the NFL has taken him off their draft boards. Collins’ ultimatum didn’t help his cause. But the majority of agents and team sources I spoke with believe Collins will continue to slide until one team—and all it takes is one—decides to call his bluff on the assumption that Collins will come around once the dust settles. Given the information available Friday night, I’ll be watching the seventh round very closely.FIVE THINGS I GOT RIGHTDallas Cowboys ignore red flags and draft Randy GregoryDon Banks and Jenny Vrentas take a look at the Dallas Cowboys' decision to draft Nebraska DE Randy Gregory. We started the Countdown to the Draft column the week after the Super Bowl, giving me ample opportunity to be wrong. And boy, did I take advantage. I’m proud to say I got a few things right as well though.Five things I got right:April 23: I don’t believe the teams often linked to Alabama strong safety Landon Collins at the end of the first round are seriously considering drafting him. Said one GM: “You’re not going to pick a safety like that in the first round unless he’s Sean Taylor.”Collins was a popular mock draftee of the Colts, who opted for Miami receiver Phillip Dorsett. Collins, who makes his money in the box, waited until the first pick of the second round, after the Packers selected Arizona State safety Damarious Randall at 30.April 23: Trying to slot Washington cornerback Marcus Peters in the first round? You can cross off the clubs undergoing coaching transitions, as well as teams lacking strong veteran leadership in the defensive backfield. The stories of Peters’ verbal clashes with an assistant on first-year Washington coach Chris Petersen’s staff have potentially vulnerable NFL staffs disinterested.Entrenched Chiefs head coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey chose Peters 18th overall. Good fit.April 16: The popular notion that USC defensive tackle Leonard Williams would be the second overall pick for the Titans if not Mariota doesn’t jibe with a handful of decision makers I polled. For some, Dante Fowler, the defensive end out of Florida, is the clear choice as the top defensive player. Said one high-level evaluator: “I think Fowler is the top guy. Tremendous athlete. You see him impact his guy like DeMarcus Ware, Von Miller.”The Titans went with Mariota, but Fowler was indeed the top defensive player chosen, by the Jaguars. Williams waited until the Jets at No. 6.April 16: The Vikings aren’t as enamored with Teddy Bridgewater’s former teammate [DeVante Parker] as everyone thinks they should be. If they were to pass on him, the furthest he would slide would be No. 14, to the Dolphins.The Vikings chose Trae Waynes, and Parker did slide, all the way to Miami. Nailed it.April 2: To say Wake Forest cornerback Kevin Johnson is moving up draft boards would be a misnomer. In truth, we’re just beginning to learn how teams have evaluated the well-seasoned redshirt senior. At this stage, he’s in the conversation for best corner available along with Trae Waynes and Marcus Peters.Johnson kept climbing, all the way to Houston at No. 16, two spots ahead of Peters and five behind Waynes.FIVE THINGS I GOT WRONGApril 30: …the other sticking point of my mock draft is the notion that La’el Collins will merely slip out of the top 10 to 18 as a result of his ex-girlfriend’s murder. The crime was horrific, but Collins is not a suspect, and he’s telling teams that the child who survived the pregnancy is not his.Yikes.April 23: Perriman was productive enough to be considered a late-first rounder, then he ran in the 4.2s at his pro day. But, said one GM, “he never played faster than 4.45.” After asking around, I like Green-Beckham as the fourth receiver taken, after Amari Cooper, Kevin White and DeVante Parker.Perriman was the fourth pick, to the Ravens at 26. Seven receivers, total, were drafted before Missouri castoff Green-Beckham was taken by the Titans with the 40th pick.April 16: First running back off the board: Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon or Georgia’s Todd Gurley? While the draftnik community is split, teams are leaning towards Gurley and what is seen as a higher ceiling… If one of the two is going to slip into the second round, bet on Gordon.Gurley and Gordon went 10th and 15th overall, respectively.April 26: For the Falcons, a length prerequisite would rule out short-armed Clemson linebacker Vic Beasley, but he has the speed and agility to play LEO. My best guess for the Falcons’ target with the eighth pick: Randy Gregory, if Atlanta is satisfied with his explanation for the positive test.Atlanta liked Beasley enough to make him the 8th overall pick. Gregory waited until Pick No. 60 to Dallas.Mock draft: Dante Fowler said in April that he would be stunned if Jaguars coach Gus Bradley passed on him at No. 3. But Gus and David Caldwell do just that, understanding there will be a capable edge rusher at 8 and gaining some capital in next year’s draft. Quinn gets his former Florida pupil, Fowler, who he sees as a defensive cornerstone to build around in his first draft as head coach.That’s where my mock fell apart, when I had the Falcons trading up for the No. 3 pick to nab Fowler. Dumb.http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/02/lael-collins-2015-nfl-draft/

    • Anonymous

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      Please draft Collins. We could throw away a pick this late. If he’s cleared we win the draft and EDS could be gone.

    • Anonymous

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      Take him in the 5th round. If he’s arrested oh well. If he’s innocent, then we have a major OL player who will have an attitude which can be used to turn against anyone in front of him and knock the crap out of them.

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      2nd/3rd round pick 4-year contract is between $3,000,000 and $7,000,000 in Total Valuelast year ASJ got 4-year and $5M in total value, Charles Sims got 4-year and $3M in total value...5th/7th round pick 4-year contract is around $2,500,000 in Total Valuebut an RFA year could be worth $2,500,000 or $3,500,000 if you get the 2nd or 1st round tender!give him 3-year at $1,800,000 in total value and he can match 2nd/3rd round contract total value with a 1st or 2nd round tender in 2018 ($4.5/5.5M for 4-year)... and you can promise early 4th year extention in 2017 who match 1st/2nd round contract if he agree to play!imo 99% chance he play in 2015 if he's not a suspect!should take him with the 5th or 6th round pick!steal of the 2015 draft!

    • Anonymous

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      Wouldn’t Collins be better off not being drafted, and signing with a team as an UDFA? I say that because maybe he could sign a deal with incentives that would give him a couple of million.

    • Anonymous

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      The teams PIs must have some info on the guy or something – I can’t believe no one would spend a 6th round flyer on him – someone will probably take him in the 7th, thus if you actually wanted him you’d need to do so in the 6th. If the guy is innocent then this is terrible for him. If the teams really don't know anything then certainly taking a 6th or 7th on the guy and then just releasing a PR statement saying "in America you're innocent until proven guilty", blah blah blah, that to me would be more than enough. But if they do know something or suspect something, then obviously you avoid the guy completely.

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