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      Bucs’ success hinges on Jeff Tedford Tom Jones, Times Sports Columnist? ?Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:26pm tedford_zps0a6f0958.pngTAMPA — This is the time of year when people who follow the NFL sit around and talk about the upcoming season. A popular topic? Trying to guess which team that was bad last year has a chance to be good this year. And, you know, a lot of people out there think the Bucs can be that team. Makes sense. New coach. New players. New attitude. New everything. Well, except for the same old story. Can they move the football? Can they score? Simply put, it's the question we always seem to have about the Bucs: Do they have an offense? Now for the disturbing answer: No one has the first darned clue. Talk all you want about how Lovie Smith is an experienced coach who knows how to run a professional football team. You can brag about a defense that looks like it has a chance to be pretty good. And, sure, the Bucs made a bunch of promising offseason moves. But all that means little if your offense can't figure out a way to get from Point A to points scored. This is a league that's all about scoring and these are the facts: The Bucs are being run by a defensive-minded head coach, an offensive coordinator who has never coached, played or called a play in an NFL game and a journeyman quarterback who has won 16 games in 11 seasons. What, exactly, about that makes you feel like the Bucs can carve up NFL defenses? This isn't saying they won't. Frankly, it's all a mystery. The great unknown here is Jeff Tedford, the former Cal head coach who has been tapped by Smith to run an offense that was dead last — dead being the appropriate word here — in the NFL last season. "(Up is) the only direction you can go,'' new quarterback Josh McCown said. "That would be the idea. I was fortunate to be a part of an offense last year (with the Bears) that was ranked relatively low and made a big jump. And so I've seen the work and the things that need to take place to make that jump. We're trying to do the same thing.'' How, exactly? It's a big secret. No one outside of One Buc Place is saying. You would have a better chance of getting the formula for Coke than knowing what the Bucs are going to do on second and 5 in 2014. Is Tedford a pound-the-rock, control-the-clock, 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust kind of guy? Or is he up-tempo, pitch-and-catch, try-to-break-the-scoreboard kind of coach? "We can go a lot of different ways,'' Smith said, coyly. "I'll just say that about our offense.'' The Bucs are keeping their offense under wraps for the time being. But this is no secret: Tedford holds the key to how well the Bucs do this season. In today's NFL, you can't hope to win games 9-6. Of last year's top 10 offenses in the NFL, seven made the postseason. Of the bottom 14 (we're talking nearly half the league) in points scored, not one made the postseason. Not one. What does that tell you? You have to score. Even the Super Bowl champion Seahawks, who have an elite defense, still finished ninth in the NFL in points. Just look at last year's Bucs. If they had scored 24 points in each and every game last season, they would have gone 8-8. Instead, they averaged 18 points a game and went 4-12. One more touchdown or, heck, even two more field goals a game and the Bucs would have won twice as many games. Last year's offense just wasn't good enough. "Obviously, the Tampa offense in 2014,'' McCown said, "is going to look different than 2013.'' Certainly, a change in personnel should help. The Bucs have revamped the offensive line. They drafted an elite receiver in Mike Evans, a top-tier tight end in Austin Seferian-Jenkins and Charles Sims might be the best receiver among running backs in this year's draft. At quarterback, based on experience alone, McCown should be an upgrade over Mike Glennon. "Once you change one member of a team, it's a different team,'' McCown said. "It just is. For us, obviously, it has been a big change.'' Looking at the offseason moves, you would guess that the Bucs will finally join the 21st century and check out this idea of the forward pass. It all comes back to Tedford. He's an intriguing hire. He is good at grooming quarterbacks. Some of his college teams put up plenty of points. Then again, Lovie Smith warned reporters Tuesday to get one thing straight. "It's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense,'' Smith said. But it's Tedford who will be planning the schemes, setting the style and calling the plays. Even though we are more than three months away from a game that matters, right now is critical time. "We've got a ways to go,'' McCown said, "but it's coming fast.'' The key is how quickly McCown can get on the same page with Tedford. "It's so important,'' McCown said. "You're a piece in the chess game that he is playing with. And when you play chess, you know what those pieces are doing when you move them.'' The Bucs better hope some of the chess pieces can move their way into the end zone in 2014. It's up to Tedford to figure out how.

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    • Anonymous

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      Offensive maybe :P not defensive success!

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    • Anonymous

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      I am assuming we will have a similar turn around as the Bears offense had last year. I see this as at least an 8 win year.

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    • gobucs123

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      “We can go a lot of different ways,” Smith said, coyly. “I’ll just say that about our offense.”This is the correct answer . You have to be able to attack teams in a variety of ways depending on how they are defending you . That was part of Schiano and Sullivan's problem . They were so bound and determined to play their " pound the rock and then take a shot deep" offense that they would never make adjustments to the defense to attack their weak spots.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

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    • Anonymous

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      IF there was one person the season hinges on, that would be mccoy. Without him, the defense is a dead duck.An honorable mention to that spot would be mccown. IF he continues his success from the bears era, we'll be golden for a year or two.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.

      Have you seen the Cowboys lately? You better believe their success rest solely on Jerry.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

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      Oh, how mature.Someone with nothing to actually offer so instead posts a lame picture, my pride sure took a beating with that one.Can I send you the therapy bill, someone as smart as you surely has a job paying so much that you wouldn't notice.

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    • Anonymous

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      So the offense has to be better and Tedford is the offensive coordinator? Brilliant insight there.

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    • Anonymous

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      I don’t think any of us know what the O will look like. He is probably the biggest unknown on the team.  I am hoping he fields a good imaginative offense that can move the chains with several different players. But, he could also crash and burn, who knows.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

      While I dont share Trojans semi-frantic pessimism, I think he means that even tho success doesn't hinge on one single element, failure sure can. Sometimes you're only as strong as your weakest link.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

      Let me get this straight you think me saying the failing of any 1 of FIVE guys means the success of the team hinges solely on a single guy?So which of the 5 who could quite easily wreck our season is the sole person person that could wreck the season?    ::)

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    • Anonymous

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      Everything rolls up hill.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

      Let me get this straight you think me saying the failing of any 1 of FIVE guys means the success of the team hinges solely on a single guy?So which of the 5 who could quite easily wreck our season is the sole person person that could wreck the season?    ::)

      You're either successful or your not. If one of the five you mention could wreck the season, then wouldn't their  failure prevent the team from finding success?

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

      Let me get this straight you think me saying the failing of any 1 of FIVE guys means the success of the team hinges solely on a single guy?So which of the 5 who could quite easily wreck our season is the sole person person that could wreck the season?    ::)

      You're either successful or your not. If one of the five you mention could wreck the season, then wouldn't their  failure prevent the team from finding success?

      Comprehension is not one of your strong suits is it?How can the teams success hinge on 1 NAMED man when at least 4 others can wreck the season also?

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    • Anonymous

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      There were stars in schiano’s so-called defensive strategy, just saying.On the otherhand, usually there is one guy being out that could badly hurt the entire season above all others. Normally, it's the qb (brees, big manning, brady, etc), but in the bucs case, that's not going to fly.If we lose david, or mccoy for whatever reason, it inarguably would indeed hurt our entire strategy, and lose a game or two at least because of it.I shudder to think of a dL with bowers, clayborn, and an "unproven" mj being the "stars."

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

      Let me get this straight you think me saying the failing of any 1 of FIVE guys means the success of the team hinges solely on a single guy?So which of the 5 who could quite easily wreck our season is the sole person person that could wreck the season?    ::)

      You're either successful or your not. If one of the five you mention could wreck the season, then wouldn't their  failure prevent the team from finding success?

      Comprehension is not one of your strong suits is it?How can the teams success hinge on 1 NAMED man when at least 4 others can wreck the season also?

      I comprehend just fine thanks and if you need to resort to those types of comments then it is rather telling. Back to subject at hand; again, if ANY of those five you mentioned fail, then the Bucs will not be successful. Doesn't that translate into the teams success relying on one individual? ANY of those individuals. It absolutely does. Look at it from a single point of failure perspective and you should see what I am saying.

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    • Anonymous

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      I say bull to that, no teams success hinges on 1 sole person.If Lovie hasn't learnt his lesson from Chicago regarding offense we're screwed.If Tedford isn't a good NFL OC we're screwed.If McCown plays like his usual self rather than the one we saw for a few games last year we're screwed.If Collins can't hold up for a for season or was a product of the Bengals system we could be screwed.If McCoy gets hurt we're screwed.So many key cogs in the Bucs Machine have to run right for success, failure in just 1 could result in a continuation of the past half decade.

      You are aware that your opening and closing sentences are exact contradictions of each other?

      Let me get this straight you think me saying the failing of any 1 of FIVE guys means the success of the team hinges solely on a single guy?So which of the 5 who could quite easily wreck our season is the sole person person that could wreck the season?    ::)

      You're either successful or your not. If one of the five you mention could wreck the season, then wouldn't their  failure prevent the team from finding success?

      Comprehension is not one of your strong suits is it?How can the teams success hinge on 1 NAMED man when at least 4 others can wreck the season also?

      I comprehend just fine thanks and if you need to resort to those types of comments then it is rather telling. Back to subject at hand; again, if ANY of those five you mentioned fail, then the Bucs will not be successful. Doesn't that translate into the teams success relying on one individual? ANY of those individuals. It absolutely does. Look at it from a single point of failure perspective and you should see what I am saying.

      I see what you're trying to say but it's wrong.A teams success can not rely on 1 named guys success if there are at least 4 others that could ruin the season themselves while that 1 guy does everything right.You pick your 1 guy that if he succeeds we will do well no matter what EVERYONE else does.That would be the definition of the teams success hinging on what 1 guy does.Tedford could be the best OC the NFL has ever seen but if when push comes to shove Lovie decides he wants that bottom of the league Lovieball offense he had in Chicago it won't mean a thing.If McCown sucks like the vast majority of his career and Glennon really isn't very good on the field (as opposed to the stat sheet) what Jeff does won't matter.So again, name that 1 "sink or swim" guy fir the team where it's all on how they do.

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