GOP operative texts: “it may just be better, instead of recriminations, we tacitly acknowledge we made a deal with the devil for 4 years. Be proud of what we got out of it (SCOTUS Justices, Fed Judges, Tax Reform, ending neoconservatism and fiscal austerity) and move on.”
Trump and Republicans’ Electoral College election objections betray conservative legal thought The events of the past few weeks suggest the principles animating modern conservative constitutionalism are merely arguments of convenience.
“Rather, the goal seems to be to try to appease and appeal to the president’s supporters — to whom no amount of contrary evidence and/or rejections of these claims in court have sufficiently established that 81 million Americans voted for the other guy. In the process, these objections will serve only to perpetuate conspiracy theories and delegitimize the clearly legitimate election of our country’s 46th president. Worse still, they may also set the stage for similar machinations four years from now — when they might be sufficient to overturn narrower election results.
Wednesday’s antics aren’t just dangerous political theater; they are also a betrayal of two of the foundational legal principles conservative Republicans have pushed for decades: The first of these is “originalism” — the theory that any debate over the meaning of specific constitutional provisions should be conclusively resolved by how those provisions would have been understood when they were adopted. The second, related principle is a particular understanding of “federalism” — the division of power between state and federal governments — through which our founding charter preserves the regulatory primacy of states over most topics, including federal elections.”
“Trump is the cause of this, lock, stock and barrel,” said one Republican strategist. “But when you’re relying on someone to win you a Senate race that also lost statewide eight weeks prior, you’re not in a position of strength.”
This started with a lot of people saying it would end like Nixon. The fact that it’s ending with Trumpy people saying “hey it wasn’t quite as bad as Nixon” is hilarious. Anyway … there will be one other difference from Nixon … SDNY’s charges (with a currently active grand jury) cannot be pardoned.
Any Trumpers wanna bet on if Trump completes his tranformation to full orange with an orange jumpsuit?
FYI I bet that Trump would be impeached. That worked out well. I like making money from your delusions. Who wants to bet?
I want to bet, with you, that Trump will be tried and found guilty of multiple crimes. Will you accept?
I don’t care about the Dems. Many of them are indeed criminal scum too. I’m asking you if you want to bet about Trump. Looks like we’re on the same side of the Dem bet so I can’t bet that with you. What about Trump?
SDNY will arrest him. They have an ongoing grand jury which everyone aside from MAGA types have been aware of for a long time. You can’t pardon state crimes. It’s a series of financial crimes, tax evasion, bribery etc. Most happened before he was President and most are crimes that no C-level would ever be charged with under normal circumstances. We’re a long way from normal.
The answer is simple. Yes or no. Do you want to bet?
You don’t have to like it you know? Lots of things happen I don’t like. I could have bet on Trump winning in 2016 even though I didn’t like the idea of him winning. My feelings don’t matter right? Obviously you won’t like it — if I had to bet on if you’d like it, or if you’d prosecute Trump, I would bet no both times. I’d parlay them together. But that’s not the bet.
SDNY is full of liberals who want to punish the big bad scary orange man. They will do it. I want to bet. Yes or no?
I only bet on reality and facts: the world hasn’t been fair or just for as long as I’ve been here and from reading history books there is a distinct lack of fairness and justice from the years prior.
Again, you appear to base a lot of what you say on your feelings. Unfortunately, your personal feelings are not a sustainable way for a people to govern themselves. Which is a roundabout way of saying “fuck your feelings snowflake … you don’t have the balls to make the bet because you know you’d lose.”
You are going on and on about the WHY: Well he’s only getting impeached because “radical marxists etc etc.”
I knew they’d do it because “radical marxists.”
I am looking to bet on the outcome — not the why.
The outcome of this ratfuckery was obvious since day one and I bet with as many delusional maniacs as possible. Even if your insane ravings ALL turned out to be true (there was a basement in that pizza place afterall) it doesn’t change the fact that he got impeached. Right? So I win the bet. The why isn’t the point.
Well sure I bet on Washington but they only lost because Brady is better at football. Right? There is always a WHY but the bet is the bet. Also stop texting people threats weirdo.
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