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    • Gareth

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      It has been a popular sentiment on this board that the Bucs have no needs and I agreed but after watching our playoff games I disagree. Our special teams are atrocious. I think we should focus on guys that can contribute on special teams in the draft. I’m not saying that we take a special teams ace at 32 but rounds 3-7 should be able to be weapons on special teams. For instance.

      Rd 1: Landon Dickerson
      Rd 2: ossai
      Rd 3: gainwell (3rd down back offers return ability)
      Rd 4: Derrick Barnes (lb depth and core special teams)
      Rd 5: James Wiggins (safety depth and core special teams)
      Rd 6: Avery Williamson (cb depth with kick return and coverage abity)

      And so on

    • theknees

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      There’s a joke in there somewhere…

      • Gareth

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        Just filling all the holes

    • m_j

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      watch regular season, forget playofs. you’ll easily find a couple of holes.

      still, we’re really good and next season is going to be real fun!

    • tiapanda

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      I agree that the special teams is one area that can be and needs to be improved this year with the help of the draft. Superior special teams have given the Saints an advantage over us and other teams during their recent run. I’m going to repost what I just posted in the Mock Draft Roundup since it’s relevant.
      The narrative that we don’t have any holes to fill is the one I don’t agree with. We do have a very big hole and it’s not RB. One thing that could undermine this season would be an injury to JPP or Shaq. We were lucky last year with injuries but we have absolutely no one behind them that can pressure the QB. That kind of hit could sink this defense and the season.
      An effective 3 man edge rush rotation would make this defense even better. JPP only has a couple of seasons left and he could use a breather that a 3rd rusher would give him instead of him taking plays off, which he does now and then to catch his breath. Teams in our position don’t trade back for more picks, as has been suggested. They aggressively move up to get the guy they want, and that guy has to be an edge rusher. Get a stud center/guard in the 2nd round, trading up again if you have to, and then start thinking about a 3rd down running back and special teams.
      When you think about it, the tern “special teams” is a weird name for them. I’m pretty sure during the 60’s they were called “specialty teams” as in kick specialists, punt specialists. Somewhere along the line it became special teams, probably just out of laziness.

    • Gareth

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      I’m not saying that we take players that will never be able to contribute in the future. Barnes offers versatility to replace LvD in the future as well as provide some juice off the edge. Wiggins plays with reckless abandoned Ala whitehead and Williamson could develop into a nice slot corner.

    • BuccaNOLEer

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      I agree we need to improve special teams big time. Although you should focus on guys that can develop into starters in rounds 4-7. That’s a good place to find first round talent that dropped due to injury or off field issues.

      If it weren’t for that second punt return being called back against the Saints in the playoffs, we probably lose that game and no Super Bowl trophy. Thankfully the defense smartened up and knocked that little fucker out of the game.

    • ratiffshabang

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      A lot of people seem to be high on Landon Dickerson. However, if you have followed him from his hs recruitment to FSU to Alabama…then you know the guy is constantly injured. I’d be open to taking him somewhere in the 3rd as a high risk high reward, but def not in the first. He is talented, and I’m pretty certain he won’t make it til the 3rd, so I’m not living in a fantasy world. Just saying that a guy that is seemingly always hurt, and a G/C is not worth a 1st. I’d rather resign Cappa, plus he’s gotten better each season.

    • Gareth

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      Dickerson is a gamble but shit I love the way this man plays football. But that is beside the point I think we need to take players that will be big for our special teams early in their careers and have the traits t develop into solid starters in time.

    • Gareth

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    • buc_boi

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      That’s the mentality that’s going to derail this train, Lichts done a wonderful job, but to say we have no holes isnt correct in my opinion.

      Definitely one of the more complete teams for sure.

    • Boid Fink

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      Bucs need to get corners, Oline and dline. Corners because there were games when they were just awful. More than a few. They played solidly when the pass rush was on fire. Funny how that works.

      Dline needs some fresh, live bodies, to beef up the platooning of pass rushers.

      Oline because depth and protecting Brady is priority one, regardless of defense.

      They should draft a linebacker and a safety as well. Safeties get banged up a lot. Linebackers because they are one injury away from having a problem. Minter is a torpedo but he is awful in coverage.

    • JC5100

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      5 regular season losses and a 6% win probability before Winfield punched that ball out. This wasn’t the 1989 49ers.

      Need an infusion in the front 7, interior offensive line.

    • m_j

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      Bucs need to get corners, Oline and dline. Corners because there were games when they were just awful. More than a few. They played solidly when the pass rush was on fire. Funny how that works.

      Dline needs some fresh, live bodies, to beef up the platooning of pass rushers.

      Oline because depth and protecting Brady is priority one, regardless of defense.

      They should draft a linebacker and a safety as well. Safeties get banged up a lot. Linebackers because they are one injury away from having a problem. Minter is a torpedo but he is awful in coverage.

      couldn’t agree more!

    • Team Pteranodon

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      Bucs need to get corners, Oline and dline. Corners because there were games when they were just awful. More than a few. They played solidly when the pass rush was on fire. Funny how that works.

      Dline needs some fresh, live bodies, to beef up the platooning of pass rushers.

      Oline because depth and protecting Brady is priority one, regardless of defense.

      They should draft a linebacker and a safety as well. Safeties get banged up a lot. Linebackers because they are one injury away from having a problem. Minter is a torpedo but he is awful in coverage.

      There it is, I’m really on board from the DB front. Biggest team weakness, despite having AW back there, and with the way this defense plays the run that forces teams to go right after them. I don’t really care about recent resources back there, the return on investment for what we have is minimal.

    • BucBalla85

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      There might still be some holes after injury and thats where we improve. You also see who might be able to be replaced simply because he’s better. The team top down is incredible but I don’t buy the whole no holes thing. I think if we look hard enough and think about who we can’t live without then we can find what we need.

    • Gareth

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      This team definitely has needs, mostly in depth. I just think it’s biggest need is the special teams which is generally depth players. I think the fact that much of last year we dressed Rojo fournette and Mccoy and none of those guys contributed on special teams.

    • Barnz1

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      The hype train amongst fans and the media that this team has no holes and is some form of avengers super team that can’t be beaten is delusional.

      The front 7 is one of the oldest in the league with little to no young talent. The depth is bad. One injury and this team is screwed. Even if we stay health when JPP or Shaq sub off we can’t pressure the QB. Nelson is meh, Rochez is meh.

      The OL depth is not great either. Just a couple journeymen types to sub in for injury or otherwise. Yes, most of the starters are set but they’re old and there’s a good chance a few of their performances drop – namely Suh, JPP, potentially David.

      We need young talent coming through that are capable to play a bunch of snaps to counter old players form drops, injury and when these older players rest (which they will need to more so this coming season than last).

    • Alldaway 2.0

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      With Gio on board I feel like trenches and ST will be the focus now.

      Need another DB, LB, WR, TE, NT and OL.

      Build the trenches!

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