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    • ISLAND BUCS

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      Senator Joe Manchin(D) Chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee:

      “Today’s release from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is an important policy Band-Air for rising gas prices but does not solve the self-inflicted wound that shortsighted energy policy is having on our nation…It is critical that Washington does not jeopardize America’s
      energy security in the near term and leave consumers vulnerable to rising prices…I continue to call on Pres Biden to responsibly increase energy production here at home and to reverse course to allow the Keystone XL pipeline to built.”

      Senator Tom Cotton:

      “Joe Biden cancelled the Keystone Pipeline. He banned drilling on federal land. He put anit-energy extremists in his cabinet. Now he blames energy companies for the high price of gas?
      He is delusional.”

      Kevin McCarthy, House Minority Leader:

      “Dear Mr. President: Let us produce our own energy and create jobs right here at home.
      Stop putting America last.”

      Remain intimately at the heart of experience.

    • Biggs3535

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      I have it on good authority the President has no effect on oil and gas prices.

    • ISLAND BUCS

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      Yea Biggs,

      It is understandable that a lot of spin is attempted to make a situation look not so bad.

      The surprise is that many people, some with a college education, buy that spin
      when the facts are so clearly aligned in the other way.

      Never under estimate the value of propaganda. Hitler and Goebbels,
      rose to power and kept power with clever spinning of the truth.
      It was Goebbels who said, tell the people a lie often enough and they will believe it. Fortunately, with the rapid transmission of facts thru the internet,
      the lie is much easier to spot, but that doesn’t stop some from still trying.

      Remain intimately at the heart of experience.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      It was Goebbels who said, tell the people a lie often enough and they will believe it.

      The irony is rich.

    • BucsBits

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      It was Goebbels who said, tell the people a lie often enough and they will believe it.

      That a Trumper would post that comment only further proves that most of you are insane

    • FireLicht2020

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      No matter how many times you say it, the POTUS does not control the global price of oil by the barrel.

      OPEC does…

      There are tons of micro-infleunces that impact the total price, but the ability of POTUS in oil price is inconsequential.

      It isn’t that complicated.

      The bigger influence is simply supply and demand. More people are traveling again so the price goes up.

      Yes there is a supply side portion to it with supply chain, reserves, etc… but it’s mostly global demand.

      Keep repeating the lie tho and maybe it will become true despite decades of contradictions

    • BucsBits

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      It was Goebbels who said, tell the people a lie often enough and they will believe it.

      The irony is rich.

      Very

      In this thread you have brain dead Trump zombies regurgitating what the Trump GOP gives them. In fact, you have a Trumper (Buggsy) suggesting US Presidents control oil prices. This is Trump tweeting in 2019

      “OPEC, please relax and take it easy. World cannot take a price hike — fragile!” the then-president tweeted in February 2019.”

      Lol.

      It’s almost like OPEC controls global oil prices .. as Fire just posted AGAIN

      Now, if Island Buc hadn’t spent the last year proclaiming Biden the best POTUS based on the DJIA you’d almost think he was just some Trump hack …

      Oh … wait

      😂😁😂

    • BucsBits

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      Keep repeating the lie tho and maybe it will become true

      Never under estimate the value of propaganda. Hitler and Goebbels,
      rose to power and kept power with clever spinning of the truth.

    • BucsBits

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      As an aside, Island Buc is actually insane:

      Fortunately, with the rapid transmission of facts thru the internet,
      the lie is much easier to spot, but that doesn’t stop some from still trying

      He is insane because the truth is exactly the opposite of that quote. It’s repeatedly demonstrated FACT that the rapid transmission of falsehoods through the internet is the problem today and it’s precisely because people like Island Buc can’t tell the difference.

      Island Buc … you probably think the 2020 election was stolen, right? Maybe you’ve been holding that post since January 6th?

    • Biggs3535

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      No matter how many times you say it, the POTUS does not control the global price of oil by the barrel.

      Who said this?

      You build a cute strawman.

      There are tons of micro-infleunces that impact the total price, but the ability of POTUS in oil price is inconsequential.

      So you’ve gone from “the President has no effect on oil prices” to the above? Who would have guessed?

      And the words/actions of the President of the US are going to be slightly more than “inconsequential,” but I can certainly understand your desire to downplay the remarkable ineptitude of the man you voted for.

    • BucsBits

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      t was Goebbels who said, tell the people a lie often enough and they will believe it.

      “ (Trump GOP) Nancy Mace is on Fox News suggesting that people should get Covid rather than get vaccinated because natural immunity is preferable.

      Take a second to ponder how irresponsible that is.”

      NANCY IS VACCINATED … and she was vaccinated after becoming infected

      Runole has repeated her lie right in these threads

      There’s you proof Island Buc is insane

    • BucsBits

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      No matter how many times you say it, the POTUS does not control the global price of oil by the barrel.

      Who said this?

      You build a cute strawman.

      There are tons of micro-infleunces that impact the total price, but the ability of POTUS in oil price is inconsequential.

      So you’ve gone from “the President has no effect on oil prices” to the above? Who would have guessed?

      And the words/actions of the President of the US are going to be slightly more than “inconsequential,” but I can certainly understand your desire to downplay the remarkable ineptitude of the man you voted for.

      Buggsy the wuss … wussing out

      Lol

    • spartan

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      No matter how many times you say it, the POTUS does not control the global price of oil by the barrel.

      Is that so?

      Because of Trumps policies in the first couple of years of his Presidency, the US became energy independent. The Saudi’s in response dropped the price of oil and increased production to try and force the US frackers out of business. The Russians were pissed as hell because they had to drop prices as well.

      I agree the President cannot typically effect the price of oil in the short term, but you can in the mid to long term. The reason why Biden has increased the price of oil is because of the plans he has put into place. This is effecting oil futures. People are anticipating oil to be more expensive so the are buying it at a higher price. What’s more, because of the plans that Biden has put into place, the Russians and Opec are holding back on production. They know as supply dries up the price will go up even more, and with US oil production inhibited there’s nothing we can do about it.

    • TheChronicHotAir

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      How’s that Russia Collusion doing– speaking of repeating LIES for years.

      The democratic Party is Trash.
      jow Biden eats trash and bm’s.

    • BucsBits

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      Because of Trumps policies in the first couple of years of his Presidency, the US became energy independent.

      Lol. I think you mean a net exporter. Briefly. We are less reliant on Middle East oil now then under Trump. Not because of Biden because of twenty something years of increasing supply from Canada and our own development (in other words for global and policy reasons over many Presidents

      OPEC still largely controls global prices and they got killed in pandemic like everyone so of course they are going to keep prices up now

      By the way, what happened to oil prices when news of the new virus broke? The price plunged right? Over fears of new restrictions (less demand). Point: it’s a global market with prices set by global demand and OPEC largely setting the supply side of the equation

    • FireLicht2020

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      It’s a global market and a global pandemic.

      Stop living in a USA bubble

    • BucsBits

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      I mean, I posted a tweet of Trump asking OPEC to not raise prices, but somehow NOW global oil prices are under the President’s control . . .

      but the stock market was not Biden’s work . . even though it was Trump’s?

      and no mention oft he jobs report

      (FAUX economics always provides fodder for critiquing the other side)

    • FireLicht2020

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      It’s just pure bias.

      And this is a great example of both sides doing something.

      Obama taking credit for Bin Laden.

      Trump taking credit for the stock market.

      Biden taking blame for oil prices.

      The lists are endless and pure theater most of the time

    • FireLicht2020

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      Debt and deficit is another good one.

      Trump had the biggest debt ever by a president. Well yeah duh, he inherited a ton of debt and a deficit.

      But he also ballooned the deficit and debt with his own policies.

      But then you gotta remember that the president doesn’t create budget proposals.

      So the beauty and frustrating of our government are caused by the same bearacracy.

    • Biggs3535

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      Obama taking credit for Bin Laden.

      He should have. He made the decision to take him out. Although, damn near everybody would have – save the guy who is in office now, apparently

      Trump taking credit for the stock market.

      He should have. He got the government out of the way and the market responded.

      Biden taking blame for oil prices.

      He should have. His horrible policy decisions and foolish words effected the price of oil pretty directly.

      But he also ballooned the deficit and debt with his own policies.

      Yes, Trump wears that. He may not have created the Budgets, although the two branches work very closely during the process, but he sure as shit signed them. That’s on him, just like every President that signs a bill or budget.

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