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    • Stagger Lee

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      Trump uses the Big Lie . . . taking a cue from Hitler**

      “As local and state Republicans seek to narrow access to the polls, Trump, who tried to force officials in Georgia to steal the election for him, called on the GOP to outlaw mail-in and early voting to ensure “honest elections” and made racially motivated insinuations about irregularities in Detroit and Philadelphia. He demanded citizen tests for ballot access, said voting should only take place on Election Day and called for independent judges to be barred from adjudicating election disputes.

      THE BIG LIE: he lost 2020 because of widespread fraud

      THE ACTION ITEMS: no early voting, especially where the black folks live, tests for ballots, only vote on election day and . . the big one . . NO COURTS DECIDING ELECTION DISPUTES (because he lost 61 times)

    • Stagger Lee

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      If you think the reference to Hitler to be too much . . . this is Hitler in Mein Kampf EXPLAINGING THE VALUE OF BIG LIES in convincing the masses to follow:

      “All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

      It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

      his part bears repeating:

      ” Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

      “the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”

      THE BIG LIE . . . disproven in 61 court battles . . but Trumpers “still doubt and waiver” and “continue to think that there may be some other explanation”

    • Stagger Lee

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      If the Hitler reference seems unfair here it is again AND an example right from CPAC.

      Here’s Hitler:

      “” Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

      Here’s CPAC this weekend:

      “After two days of talking about voter fraud at the biggest conservative conference of the year, a woman asked a pair of Republican election lawyers speaking on a panel: What are we going to do about the voting machines that switched thousands and thousands of votes?

      The crowd applauded,

      but Republican lawyer Charlie Spies shook his head.

      “I may get booed off the stage for this, but I have to say that’s simply not true,” he said, prompting shouts from the crowd. “There is just zero evidence that’s true.”

      It was a rare reality check for the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, a weekend summit dominated by false and baseless claims about election fraud and capped with a 90-minute, lie-filled speech by former President Donald Trump, who declared the 2020 presidential race to have been rigged.”

    • Stagger Lee

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      One of the reporters referred to CPAC as “Lie-a-palooza”

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      actual GOP argument to the SCOTUS today

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    • Stagger Lee

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      If you listen to the actual audio above, you’ll here Justice Barrett quickly cut him off because he answers that the interest lies in WINNING

    • Stagger Lee

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      This is the GOP lawyer agreeing with Kagan that polling stations matter. (That was disputed here lol)

      KAGAN: So the first one is that the state decides that each county can have one poll place, and because of who lives in larger counties, that creates a disparate impact that black voters have to wait in line for 10 times the amount that white voters do, two-and-a-half hours instead of 15 minutes. Is that system equally open in the language of the statute?

      CARVIN: I would think not. “Equally open” means takes into account demographic reality. If you have one polling place for five people and one polling place for 5 million people, obviously, in the latter situation, those people do not have an equal opportunity to vote. So, no…

    • spartan

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      Democrats are total advocates of the “big lie”.

      It’s you and your cohorts are making the Hitler reference. Here’s a few more for you ..

      Trump woke up in the morning .. just like Hitler.
      Trump made a political speech .. just like Hitler.
      Trump is White .. just like Hitler.
      Trump went to the bathroom .. just like Hitler.
      Trump wants to punish people for their political views … just like .. oh wait!

      • FireLicht2020

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        Lol… losing an election is now ‘cancel culture’

      • Stagger Lee

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        Typical cop out by Spartan.

        I gave you the actual quote from Hitler and allied it directly to Trumps action.

        I didn’t say Trump was a mass murderer. I said his POLITICAL approach is right out of Hitler’s political approach, as described by Hitler himself



        @Spartan
        you’re response was to avoid addressing the obvious connection. Deflect deflect deflect.

      • spartan

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        Incorrect.

        You make it sound like only Hitler and Trump adhere to the principal of “the big lie,” when in fact many politicians do. Particularly (IMO) Democrats.

        Even if you are correct, in and of itself it is not racist or fascist, it is merely a technique.

      • Stagger Lee

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        “You make it sound like”

        In other words, I want you to defend what I inferred from what you actually said

        If you want to defend the Trump/Hitler comparison by saying “other politicians” that’s your choice. Lol. But, that’s an admission that my point is true and THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE RECEPTIVE

    • Stagger Lee

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      The reason Trump supporters are not often reflected in polls is NOT that they are some “silent majority.” Far from it. They are an “embarrassed minority” meaning they want the results he promised but don’t want to be associated with the dirty effort whether that’s separating families, supporting h cops who kill, or suppressing the votes of black folks.

      This is precisely why the Hitler quote is so relevant. A no precisely why it’s ignored

      • spartan

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        It is more to do with the fact that people like you make threats both physical and professional, willing to destroy people and their lives for the sake of their politics. And it is getting more and more prevalent.

        If anything is more fascist in this day and age it is the Brownshirt style tactics utilized by more and more “progressives.”

      • FireLicht2020

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        Lol… yeah all those big mean snowflake socialist liberals with their fancy hats and participation trophies that are spy boys…

        Are also threatening your life….

        Lmfao

      • Stagger Lee

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        I honestly wonder if you understand how nuts that sounds @Spartan?

        Ironic too because it’s Trump who elevated the notion that political opposition is evil. Press are enemy of the state, Democrats want to destroy America. Etc.

    • Roy

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      Of course Hitler was worse than Trump. Congratulations to Trump for not being the absolute worst human being in history. Trump is not responsible for the deaths of millions of people. So thats a reasonable request not to compare Hitler to Trump.

      So forget the comparisons. Lets just talk about what Trump is capable of. I think it would be a mistake to underestimate what Trump is capable of if he has the power. Trump opened the door to that speculation. How he handled the post-election with the Big Lie culminated by the January 6th insurrection gives us all the right to speculate. What would Trump do if the system of checks and balances hadn’t have worked. If he had been successful in eliminating the checks and balances, politicizing the military, and overrunning the elected legislature, as he tried so hard to do, what would he have done with that power? What would he do to his political foes if he had the chance? What would he allow the right wing militias to get away with if it was up to him?

      Oh yes, its very fair to speculate. That door was blown wide open on January 6th.

    • Stagger Lee

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      In the original post and subsequent conversation I make the point that the only comparison made here is the POLITICAL approach of the Big Lie. As Hitler himself suggests, not all are willing to go that far. That’s precisely why it will work with some

      The quote is a POLITICAL QUOTE not a quote about killing millions of Jews

    • Roy

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      Yes, still Karma, its Hitler. You can’t compare someone to a person responsible for genocide and then say well I’m not talking about the mass murderer part, I’m only talking about his personality.

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