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    • michael89156

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      What if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers DON’T Turn Around in 2014 or beyond?Jul 19, 2014         There was a time when everything looked great for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They went to the playoffs regularly, had a proven coach, strong running back, and a number one defense. Most important, they had a great owner , revered by the community and his fellow ownership group. Surely I’m speaking of Malcolm Glazer right? Why No, It would be Hugh Culverhouse! turn_zps1e77275b.pngWorst Mistake for Hugh Culverhouse besides letting Doug Williams go, letting Wayne Fontes go too. That’s right, there was a time Mr. €ulverhouse was a local hero to the NFL community. He brought football to Tampa Bay, had the courage to bring a 4 time national championship winning John McKay to coach, and the Bucs in two years went from 0-26 to the NFC championship game. turn1_zpsb23e874e.pngJohn McKay was the perfect 1st coach for the young NFL team. But Then in 1982, it started to fall apart. A contract dispute with the only QB the Bucs ever won with, Doug Williams, was allowed to leave over money.  turn2_zps8ab64a30.pngLetting Doug Williams leave over 100,000 dollars started 12 years of Double Digit losses. By 1984 the team had to invest several high draft picks  to replace the QB in an era without free agency, instead of investing in an aging defense first assembled in 1977. Everyone is so sure the Bucs are about to turn back the clock to the glory days of Tony Dungy, and they probably are, but what if we are just in the middle of another 14 year losing streak like 1983-1996 ? turn3_zps1157be5c.pngA clue for the Bucs was Bennett selling RVs for a living when called upon!! turn4_zps20c54306.pngPerkins 3-a-days, not experience with Giants, are whats best remembered by Bucs Lovie Smith is a proven head coach who has had success with the Bears, but Ray Perkins (Bucs Head Coach 1987-1990 week 13) and his defensive Units were responsible for turning around and coaching the NY Giants when they became winners in the early 80s before DC Bill Parcells. Leeman Bennett (HC 1985-1986) was the only winning head coach the Atlanta Falcons ever had when the Bucs chose him to succeed McKay. Sam Wyche (HC 1992-1995)                                                                                                                                                                                                     Coached a well oiled offensive machine in the Cincinnati Bengals  all the way to a close Super Bowl Loss, just like Lovie Smith experienced with the Chicago Bears! What does that guarantee? The Bucs were terrible on offense under Wyche, Horrible on defense under Perkins, and Bennett has the worst W/L record of any Bucs coach eversd (4-28) . So what do we have that tells us this will work? 1. A GM is making player decisions. Both Bennett and Perkins took over all duties, when it was GM George Young that built the Giants of the 80s, not Perkins. Wyche too, although Rich McKay started to take over player personnel decisions bringing in Hardy Nicherson, Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks, and more. He is the only GM to spin his 1st and 2nd picks of his career on Hall of Famers! The final year under Wyche the Bucs were 5-2 and 7-7 at one point, and Bucs ended a streak of 12 straight double digit losing seasons. 2.There is free agency and a salary cap. Culverhouse would have just loved the idea of being told his team HAD to spend a certain amount of money. During the 14 year losing streak, Culverhouse was beyond frugal, secretly raking in record profits while crying poor and claiming a need to play half of Bucs games in Orlando to offset attendance issues at Tampa Stadium which held 72,000. Instead NFL teams have to spend a minimum which insures every team has its share of super stars to some extent. Old Bucs drafted good players then let them leave when contracts became to big for Culverhouse. turn5_zpsfadce45d.pngJack Thompson was supposed to be the Bucs answer at QB. Of course, its possible all Free Agency can be used for is another way to bring on a bad fit for your the team! Is Josh McCown another Jack Thompson? Only time will tell. Time to return to the days of opening seasons with expectations of playoff dreams, or finishing them with draft pick countdowns. Images of QBs cannoning Td passes, or Draft failures followed by rifling through coaching candidates.link

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    • Anonymous

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      Is it fair to say both glennon and mccown would be gone before lovie?

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    • Anonymous

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      Is it fair to say both glennon and mccown would be gone before lovie?

      I think it's safe to say that.

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    • Anonymous

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      The Glazers are nothing like Culverhouse, thank god.

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    • Anonymous

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      If the team isn’t competitive in 2014 then their plan was a major failure.

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    • Anonymous

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      If we dont win 8 games or more, than this plan is much worse than it appears on the surface.  We have some inherit obstacles with this plan, namely, we are counting on a ton of new pieces to gel quickly.  I would be shocked if we are not a top 5 defense right out of the gate. 

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    • Anonymous

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      Then we’ll be bad?

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    • Anonymous

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      I’m hoping for the best this year but I understand it could either be very good or very bad. I think a lot will fall on the QB play. If the QB play is bad this year, Lovie will draft “his guy” next year.

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    • Anonymous

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      Then we'll be bad?

      Lol.

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    • Anonymous

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      What if McCown and Glennon’s arms fall off?What if the Bucs never have a winning season again?What if all of the best Bucs get injured in camp?What if Lovie forgets how to coach?OMG. I'm so upset and stressed about these bad possibilities.

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    • Anonymous

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      If McCown and Glennon both fail miserably, they will draft a QB #1 in 2015.  Maybe Winston. They are building a nice team, so they could just plug in a new QB if need be, and roll on. Maybe a free agent like Cousins. It wouldn’t be back to square one, with a 5 year rebuilding plan.But just for the record, I think McCown will be a serviceable starter for a couple seasons, with Glennon getting more and more playing time as the season progresses. So they can evaluate him to make the decision if he is part of the plan going forward.

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