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    • Hank Scorpio

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      Congratulations! You just got hired to be the Buccaneers new General Manager! What do you perceive to be this teams needs and how would you go about addressing them in the upcoming draft? You can list the positions by round you would target or even specific players if you’re that sold on them already.

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    • Hank Scorpio

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      Team needs : Safety, OC, OT, WR, RB

      Rd 1: OL. I’m taking the best available player on either side of the line, regardless of need.  I know our biggest need is safety, but there’s no one I love at 19. Derek Barnett would be a dream come if he slid to 19, but if he’s gone (likely), then probably the best available OL.  We have a franchise QB who we need to do a better job protecting, and a running game that needs a lot more push in order to be effective.

      Rd 2: WR.  If we luck in to Barnett, I’m taking the best available OL.  However if we’re able to address OL in Rd 1, then I’m looking at a skill player.  There will still be some talented safeties on the board, but this is a thin WR class.  Depending on who is left at either position would weigh heavily in my decision, but someone like Malachi Dupre would be tempting. Supremely talented and underutilized due to LSU’s putrid QB play.

      Rd 3/4: TE or S.  This may be the deepest TE class ever.  Depending on how the first 2 rounds go and what’s left on the board would largely impact the order, but I’m definitely addressing these 2 positions in rd 3 and 4.  Pairing someone with Brate is a must as I don’t think our other current options pose any real threat to a defense.

      Rd 5: RB.  In addition to being a deep year at TE, it’s also a deep year at RB.  I’m kind of counting on Joe Mixon still being available and getting the steal of the draft.  But if he’s gone, there are some really talented albeit lesser known RBs that can still make a big impact in the league.  I won’t place a lot of value in targeting a RB in an earlier round until I have a dominant OL that can block for him.

      Rd 6: DL.  Likely looking at a DE or DT prospect from a smaller school who may be undervalued because he goes to a smaller school

      Rd 7: WR. Preferably someone who can play slot if Humphries goes down or needs a rest. Kick/Punt return experience is a plus.

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    • BucsBay

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      This is a big offseason for the Bucs. We have drafted very well (I would say great, but 2014 was pretty bad except for Evans) since Licht got here. We have not been good in Free Agency at all though. If the Bucs want to seriously contend in 2017, they have to do a much better job in free agency this year imo. Hopefully they can do that, and we aren’t so dependent on this years draft. That said, if they can nail free agency, any studs they can find in the draft could be what put them over the top. So, my draft strategy assuming some solid Free Agency catches, would be to go get the guys you know can make a difference no matter what the costs.

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    • Pepsi

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      Team Needs: WR, RB, OC, RT, Saftey

      Summary on Needs: I think safety looked like our biggest need at the beginning of the season but towards the ends when our defense came together, specifically the Dline, the safeties looked adequate and McDougald started looking decent. Then Tandy came in and looked quite good. I think Conte could go and we could use a new guy somewhere. Weapons for Winston is biggest need, we NEED a run game. as of now we have nobody. we need receivers besides Evans and a bunch of UFAs. RT was abysmal and single handedly shut us down for 2 drives against the cowboys, and we could use an up grade at Center.

      Draft round 1-4:
      Round 1: Offensive Tackle – Ryan Ramczyk for possible future probowl right tackle
      Round 2: WR/RB – Curtis Samuel – probably stealing both humphries and Sims job. Think Pecry harvin
      Round 3: WR – KD Cannon – Explosive Deep threat, long term route great runner possibilities
      Round 4: RB – Jamaal Williams – or best available RB. havent looked too deep at RB yet so this could change.

      Free Agency:
      this is harder to pin point but I have various scenarios. Big money signing goes to defense either in Secondary via Berry if available, or best Corner like Gilmore, or my preference is best DT to pair with McCoy. We have tons of cap so keep going. doesnt have to be the biggest names but we resign Gholston. Sign Pierre Garcon for his solid and dependable routes hands and veteran savy, he helps KD Cannon learn in the NFL. Sign a guard if we can.

      Internal Moves:
      Was listen to Commish podcast like some do here, and while hes not always enjoyable to listen to,  sometimes the “bucs needs” talk is good content. My Oline suggestion will mirror his so this will sound familiar to anyone who just listened. Time for Ali Marpet to make the switch to Center. Pamphile at LG. Sweezy gets projected at RG and if hes not looking ready then Licht cuts his losses and looks to spend on another guard in FA. lot easier to find a good guard then it is to find an probowl center, and marpet has the makings of a probowl center. Where i add more than commish did is I improve our RT with the first round pick in getting Ryan Ramczyk. Also in addition to looking for a replacement to Sweezy in FA if he doesnt get healthy, perhaps look at guard in 4th-7th round.

      Recap:
      Offense gets a complete jolt of energy with KD Cannon, Curtis Samuel, Peirre Garcon, Jamaal Williams  (if not those exact players then still similar concept). We saved the first round pick from being used on a WR and get to use it on a tackle that will hopefully protect Winston for years and run block well for years. Further improved the Oline by shifting Marpet to Center. Added at least one big name to our defense to help keep them consistently playing at a high level. Added a big RB from this really deep RB at a value spot in the draft, taking advantage of the classes strengths.

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    • Detrimental

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      Round 1:

      Dalvin Cook, Corey Davis, Malik Hooker, Derek Barnett, Solomon Thomas,  Cam Robinson, Ryan Ramcyzk, or Jabril Peppers

       

      Round 2: O.J. Howard, Evan Engram, Budda Baker, Dede Westbrook, Ethan Procic, Montarvious Adams, or Desmond King

       

      Round 3: Cam Sutton, Alvin Kamara, David Njoku, Justin Evans, James Connor, Eddie Jackson, or Lowell Lotulelei

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    • XFactor

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      1. Taco Charlton DE Michigan
      Nfl Comparison: Justin Tuck

      2. Budda Baker FS Washington
      NFL Comparison: Tyrann Mathieu

      3. Isaiah Ford WR Virgina Tech
      NFL Comparison: Amari Cooper

      4. Malachi Dupre WR LSU
      NFL Comparison: Martavis Bryant

      (Key Free Agents: DT Dontari Poe, TE Martellus Bennett, G Kevin Zietler)

       

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    • Anonymous

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      Kicker, kicker, kicker… if we land one, it is the one piece that will get us over the top.

      Take a kicker in the first 3 rounds if need be.

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    • Pepsi

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      1. Taco Charlton DE Michigan Nfl Comparison: Justin Tuck 2. Budda Baker FS Washington NFL Comparison: Tyrann Mathieu 3. Isaiah Ford WR Virgina Tech NFL Comparison: Amari Cooper 4. Malachi Dupre WR LSU NFL Comparison: Martavis Bryant (Key Free Agents: DT Dontari Poe, TE Martellus Bennett, G Kevin Zietler)

      Im very much in line with this, except I dont remeber being too impressed with Ford but that was before a lot of the 2016 college season was really  underway. I have Cannon in that slot instead but Ill have to take another look at Ford.

      RB situation still a mystery here. Could lean on Jaquiz for the time being, while signing someone like McFadden for the year. Basically Patching it up till we draft someone next year. That’s always an option.

       

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    • swamp_bats

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      O-line and WR are by far our biggest needs on this team. However I feel like we will address WR in FA before the draft comes around. Any viable WR2 is a major upgrade over where we are right now. Having said that, O-line becomes the priority in the Draft.

      Round One:Ryan Ramczyk, I would love Cam Robinson here, but he will be gone. Fall back picks for me here are Corey Davis WR, but he too will most likely be gone. I’d also love to see Caleb Brantley here is we go D-line instead.</span>

      Round Two: Ethan Pocic or Pat Elflein, you may think center shouldn’t be this high on the list, but I disagree. I like Joe Hawley, but he misses a good deal of time. And ever time EDS comes in for him the drop off is noticeable and EDS has a hard time not getting banged up as well. Lets take this O-Line from good to an actual strength. Give Jameis more time and blow open holes for Doug, Quizz, or whomever is pounding the rock for us next season.

      Round Three: Marcus Maye. We need safeties. We could use an upgrade at both spots. Conte is way to up and dowm, McDougald is solid, dependable, but far from a play maker and for as well as Tandy finished the season, he has been on this team for several years now and has never made a lasting impact.

      Rounds Four thru Seven: a WR with juice, another TE with starting potential seeing how we run a base 2-TE formation, probably a RB with Doug’s status in doubt and DE’s are always nice to draft.

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    • Do_it_Big_Bucs

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      Round 1.  Dalvin Cook if Available, if not, WR Mike Williams from Clemson.. If not available, best WR on the board.

      Round 2.  OL preferably RT

      Round 3. Going after either an elite RB or back to WR if no elite RB.   If no elite RB or WR here, I go TE Howard from Bama

      Round 4.  OL if there is a good one, if not I look for the best available guy in the secondary (S).

      Trade up to the 4th round with my 6th and 7th round pick and get best available player

      5th Round     OL, WR or TE

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    • Anonymous

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      All depends on free agency who’s available and who we can lure in, but we need in no particular order…

      OT – Most likely via a 1st round pick

      WR – Prefer a top end free agent signing in addition to a mid/late round pick

      Center – Mid round pick

      RB – Mid/late round pick

      S – Early/Mid round pick

      DL – Early/Mid round pick

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    • BucsBay

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      Free Agency

      • WR
      • RT (Let Dotson and Smith compete at LT)
      • Gholston or DL
      • CB
      • Role Players

      Draft

       

      1 – DE

      2 – Skill Position

      3 – 7 Kicker

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    • Do_it_Big_Bucs

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      Now that FSU’s WR Travis Rudolph declared for the draft, I would no mind getting him in the 4th round!!

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    • Anonymous

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      Now that FSU’s WR Travis Rudolph declared for the draft, I would no mind getting him in the 4th round!!

      Yeah, let’s just draft a whole team of FSU players!!!!!

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    • DerekPHFD

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      I think some needs will be addressed via free agency such as a vet WR, a vet RB, and a vet DT. I don’t see any huge numbers or big name players coming in. I think a WR like Kamar Aiken, a RB like Lacy (prove it deal) and a run stuffer DT like D. Poe. I also think we resign Gholston and McDougald.

      Rd 1: TE OJ Howard- I know this pick seems like a waste of a first rounder, but I see Williams and Davis both gone, Cook gone, Barnett, Garrett, and Allen gone, Robinson and Ram gone, and Hooker and Adams gone. Howard was the number 1 TE coming out of high school, and was severely underused as a receiver at Alabama. He has had huge games as a receiver when they opened it up, usually on the biggest stage. But a key to me is that because of his expierence in a ground and pound offense, his run blocking will be a huge plus in our running game. We use a base 2 TE a good deal, and having both him and Brate on the field at the same time sets up mismatches.

      Rd 2: WR Chris Godwin- I may be drinking the Rose Bowl performance kool aid, but Godwin had and impressive year. He gives our offense another playmaker for Winston.

      Rd 3: DT Carlos Watkins- What got lost with the impressive Clemson defenses the past 3 years or so was the presence of Watkins. Bringing him in with a rotation of Spence would allow us to keep our DTs fresh. It seemed later in games (and even early on) we were getting gashed up the gut. You can never have to much talent in the trenches.

      Rd 4: T Taylor Moton: Big part of what made Western Michigan successful and held his own against a strong Wisconsin defense. He has good size and length and a good nasty streak. Much like the last pick, the more talent in the trenches the better.

      Rd 5: S Casey DeAndrade- Small school safety from the University of New Hampshire. Athletic with good size. Played corner and returned kicks and punts. The kind of player that is willing to play special teams and with coaching could be a solid back up, fringe starter. It is unrealistic to expect All-Pro or even full time starter from later picks. I like the thought of taking someone who can contribute right away on special teams.

      Rd 6: QB Joshua Dobbs- Glennon will not be back. Ryan Griffin could be a serviceable backup, but I like the thought of bringing in a young arm to push him. This may seem a bit like a luxury pick, but Dobbs can be a solid backup. He never did live up to the hype at Tennessee, but he had some solid moments and started from his freshman year on.

      Rd 7: LB Hardy Nickerson Jr- A bit of a fun pick, but also a solid one. Before transferring to be at Illinois with his dad and Lovie, he was a team captain at California. Another player that can contribute on special teams but also has the potential to start on the strong side in a couple of years. The kind of player you want in the 7th round based of pedigree and fundamentals.

       

      I know my mock is a bit different then most, but we get two weapons for Winston, two trench values, a back up qb and two solid special team contributors with potential to one day start. Plus having a Hardy Nickerson in Tampa again would be pretty cool!

       

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    • BucfanNC12

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      Offseason: experienced OL in free agency and maybe a safety.

       

      Draft (Since I’m a keyboard GM and just pull this out my a$$)

      Round 1: WR

      Round 2: Safety or DE

      Round 3. RB

      Round 4. CB

      Round 5. TE

      Round 6: OL

      Round 7: RB

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    • Pepsi

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      I think some needs will be addressed via free agency such as a vet WR, a vet RB, and a vet DT. I don’t see any huge numbers or big name players coming in. I think a WR like Kamar Aiken, a RB like Lacy (prove it deal) and a run stuffer DT like D. Poe. I also think we resign Gholston and McDougald. Rd 1: TE OJ Howard- I know this pick seems like a waste of a first rounder, but I see Williams and Davis both gone, Cook gone, Barnett, Garrett, and Allen gone, Robinson and Ram gone, and Hooker and Adams gone. Howard was the number 1 TE coming out of high school, and was severely underused as a receiver at Alabama. He has had huge games as a receiver when they opened it up, usually on the biggest stage. But a key to me is that because of his expierence in a ground and pound offense, his run blocking will be a huge plus in our running game. We use a base 2 TE a good deal, and having both him and Brate on the field at the same time sets up mismatches.

      I wanted Howard until Brate emerged as a probowl caliber TE for us. But you’re doing a good job selling Howard. it is true that all of those guys you mentioned will gone with the possible exception of Davis and Ram(if you mean Ramzcyk). and I do think that Howard could be the next bonafide stud TE in the NFL who was just severely underused in Bama. Quality and experienced blocker with upside to be elite in both blocking and receiving. I think that Licht and company still try and at least somewhat fill a positional void with pick 19 so I dont see this pick happening unless he is there at our second round pick, which is doubtfull.

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    • dexmonkey

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      Now that FSU’s WR Travis Rudolph declared for the draft, I would no mind getting him in the 4th round!!

      more like the 6th round.

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    • dexmonkey

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      FA

      Resign Gholston

      Sign Rick Wagner to play RT

      1st Round – Corey Davis WR WMU

      2nd Round – Dan Feeney OG Indiana

      3rd round – Jordan Leggett TE Clemson

      4th round – Kai Nacua S BYU

      5th round – Larry Ogunjobi DT Charlotte

      6th round – Austin Golson C Auburn

      7th round – Shock Linwood RB Baylor

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    • Buc Bauce

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      The strategy is to match your needs with the strength of the Draft, and try to fill one or two other key needs with a FA or two, also find depth in both FA and the Draft.

      I think you also have to have a base philosophy or guiding principles that you believe in as well that drives you – Koetter’s is Turn-overs, Explosive Plays, Sacks.

      Your Strategy should mach your Philosophy / Guiding Principles…

      Key Needs:

      1. WR
      2. Safety
      3. DE
      4. RB
      5. Return Specialist
      6. DT
      7. TE
      8. C
      9. Future RT

      Strength of the Draft:

      • DL – there are several very good DL prospects at both Tackle and End, and there will likely be one of them staring us in the face at 19.
      • I also think CB is very strong in this draft, and in the second round, you may see a guy like Adoree Jackson or King (Iowa) be there, so that’s something to watch.
      • 2nd tier WR – the top two are Davis and Williams, and it’s quite likely that they’ll both be gone by the time we pick, hence the fact that there will likely be a very solid DL there for the taking in the first round, as well as plenty of WR to choose from in the 2nd round.
      • This draft also seems to be pretty deep at RB – I think we should be able to find a day 1 starter at RB in the 3rd or 4th round.
      • As far as Safety goes in this draft, I do think there are some gems out there like the guy from Utah, Williams I think, and Buddah Baker that might be had in the 2nd, but it’s all about value and who’s available.
      • I really can’t expect for us to find more than 2 or 3 quality day 1 contributors in the draft, the rest are for depth and ST.

      Find Value in FA:

      • There are definitely some very solid WR in this FA class such as Stills, Woods and Patterson (sounds like a law firm or a band, lol).
      • There are also some quality DT and DE available as well that we could sign to help hedge our bets in case we don’t land one in the draft.
      • It also looks like there are a few RT prospects that will be available that we could bring in to compete as well.

      With that strategy in mind, I’m going to sign Patterson in FA – giving me a guy who is capable of explosive plays in both the return and WR screen game.

      In the draft, I’m making sure I come away with the best DL that falls to me in the first round, then trying to get one of the WR who fall to me in the 2nd, and taking either a CB or Safety in the 3rd, and find my RB in the 4th.

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    • GMACsBlankey

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      1) Davis, Williams, Cook, Peppers, Cam Robinson in that order

      2-7) would really depend on that first pick. If you take Peppers, you go weapons with the next pick. If you take one of the offensive guys, I think you look at someone like Marcus Maye in the second.

      For those still unaware, Tandy wasn’t a solid safety to end the year, he was literally the best in the league the last 5 or so weeks. Giving him an athletic compliment would make our defense very dynamic. Look at Kam and Earl in Seattle. Night and day when they’re together.

      I like OJ Howard as a prospect A LOT, but the middle of the field isn’t the issue. They need someone on the outside.

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    • spurzo

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      1) DE – Soloman Thomas (dream pick but since he’s likely gone)

      1B) DE – Takk McKinley

      2) S – Justin Evans

      3) WR – Juju Smith-Schuster

      4) G – Dorian Johnson

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    • ktownbuc47

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      This guy if he’s available in the 1st. This is against Myles Garrett who is the consensus #1 pick right now in most mocks I’ve seen. We need WR, S and some DL but if he’s there, I take him.

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    • XFactor

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      Now that FSU’s WR Travis Rudolph declared for the draft, I would no mind getting him in the 4th round!!

      more like the 6th round.

      Will be interesting to see how he fares during the combine, most have him with a 2nd – 4th round grade.

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    • Pepsi

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      This guy if he’s available in the 1st. This is against Myles Garrett who is the consensus #1 pick right now in most mocks I’ve seen. We need WR, S and some DL but if he’s there, I take him.

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      I mock us for Ryam Ramczyk, but of course if Cam Robinson is available hes the guy I have at the top of my board. I wanted him as a buc when i put on Myles Garret games on draftbreakdown and watched him get dominated here as well.

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    • BucNCane

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      Damn site logged me out and didn’t post.

      Try this again. I used Walter Footballs latest mock draft to get an idea of what mmight be available. I only took guys that were available before or after my pick in each round.

      1. Corey Davis wr western michigan. It’s the perfect scenario of need meets bpa.

      2. David Njoku te miami. Not the greatest need but one hell of a player. Would give Winston a fresh set of weapons and give the bucs a ton of flexibility in routes and sets. Evans Davis Brate Njoku would be 1 hell of a core.

      3. Elfein c ohio state. Another great area of needs and bpa meeting. Can battle for C spot or be groomed to replace the next year. Either way gives more OL depth and a solid talent.

      4. DeShawn Hand de/dt Alabama. Was a 5 star coming out of HS and played for a solid program. Would provide much needed depth and hopefully blossom into a starter.

      They only mocked 4 rounds but 5th would be Joe Mixon if he’s available. 6th and 7th would be whatever special team guys.

       

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    • Anonymous

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      This guy if he’s available in the 1st. This is against Myles Garrett who is the consensus #1 pick right now in most mocks I’ve seen. We need WR, S and some DL but if he’s there, I take him.

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      I mock us for Ryam Ramczyk, but of course if Cam Robinson is available hes the guy I have at the top of my board. I wanted him as a buc when i put on Myles Garret games on draftbreakdown and watched him get dominated here as well.

      Yeah Cam is likely top 10 guy and I’m not interested in overpaying to move up in the draft to get him. Ramczyk seems more realistic target. If Cam starts to drop a bit I might be willing to jump up a few spots to nab him.

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    • Jr.3

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      Damn site logged me out and didn’t post. Try this again. I used Walter Footballs latest mock draft to get an idea of what mmight be available. I only took guys that were available before or after my pick in each round. 1. Corey Davis wr western michigan. It’s the perfect scenario of need meets bpa. 2. David Njoku te miami. Not the greatest need but one hell of a player. Would give Winston a fresh set of weapons and give the bucs a ton of flexibility in routes and sets. Evans Davis Brate Njoku would be 1 hell of a core. 3. Elfein c ohio state. Another great area of needs and bpa meeting. Can battle for C spot or be groomed to replace the next year. Either way gives more OL depth and a solid talent. 4. DeShawn Hand de/dt Alabama. Was a 5 star coming out of HS and played for a solid program. Would provide much needed depth and hopefully blossom into a starter. They only mocked 4 rounds but 5th would be Joe Mixon if he’s available. 6th and 7th would be whatever special team guys.

      Would love this draft!

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    • Anonymous

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      Defensive end(S)

      Offensive tackle

      wideout

      bigger corner who can flip and tackle.

      Safety

      Linebacker

      defensive tackle

       

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    • DerekPHFD

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      What is the severity of ramzcyk hip injury? If he grades out physically and is deemed ok I would love the pick. I also think if he does pass physicals he becomes a Conklin like draft pick. 12 to the Browns or maybe Indy takes a Dallas like approach after selecting Kelly last year and ramzcyk this year to protect their 100 million dollar qb. With the draft weak on top tackle prospects and teams shifting towards a Dallas, Tennessee, Oakland approach to the oline,I have a hard time seeing the second best tackle in the draft making it to 19. Also, would we expect Dotson to still start early on? We were a bad game against the Rams or an overtime loss to the raiders away from being a playoff team. Would using a first round pick on a future starting RT help get us over the hump? I’m all for building the trenches, but IMO passing on an impact offensive player at either RB, WR, or TE in the first doesn’t seem like the right move.

      I have been wrong plenty of times though.

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    • Pepsi

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      What is the severity of ramzcyk hip injury? If he grades out physically and is deemed ok I would love the pick. I also think if he does pass physicals he becomes a Conklin like draft pick. 12 to the Browns or maybe Indy takes a Dallas like approach after selecting Kelly last year and ramzcyk this year to protect their 100 million dollar qb. With the draft weak on top tackle prospects and teams shifting towards a Dallas, Tennessee, Oakland approach to the oline,I have a hard time seeing the second best tackle in the draft making it to 19. Also, would we expect Dotson to still start early on? We were a bad game against the Rams or an overtime loss to the raiders away from being a playoff team. Would using a first round pick on a future starting RT help get us over the hump? I’m all for building the trenches, but IMO passing on an impact offensive player at either RB, WR, or TE in the first doesn’t seem like the right move. I have been wrong plenty of times though.

      I do belive Ramczyk will be there at 19 despite being the second best tackle prospect. The reason is because hes a flawed prospect. Hes not really a good LT prospect and if your viewing him as such hed be more a a second round grade in general. His pass protection is not elite but his run blocking is excellent. Wed be drafting him to play RT for short term and long term so hes a great fit for us.

      In my  offseason Mock, we dont get WR with pick 19 but we’re still Olympic ski jumping over the hump in terms of adding offensive impact too the team.

      In addition to getting a new RT with pro bowl run blocking pro potential heres what would be new to the team

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    • DerekPHFD

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      Man I have not watched a lot of Baylor football but cannon looks perfect for what we need. Sign me up for that!

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    • XFactor

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      Curtis Samuel = Speed.

      I kinda hope we trade down and pick up an extra second rounder. I like a lot of  the projected second prospects just as much as the first round guys.

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    • dexmonkey

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      Now that FSU’s WR Travis Rudolph declared for the draft, I would no mind getting him in the 4th round!!

      more like the 6th round.

      Will be interesting to see how he fares during the combine, most have him with a 2nd – 4th round grade.

      he will do well in inteviews. hes a stand up guy. hes tough and the tape shows he will play over the middle as well as outside

      his issue is that he needs to gain weight. hes probably 6’1 but closer to 185-190 lbs and hes not really fast. his YAC wasnt very good and he struggles to make contested catches consistently. he projects as an NFL slot receiver and a possession guy. if he runs well hes probably a 3rd or 4th rounder.

      the biggest problem with Rudolph is that an absurd amount of his career production came in about 3-4 games. he had 2 200 yard games against syracuse and another against Houston. then he has a bunch of 60-80 yard games and a bunch of ones where hes got like 2 catches for 30. hes wildly inconsistent. some of that can be blamed on FSU having less than ideal QB situations for 2 of his 3 years but he never really stepped up

      he made some big plays for us when we needed them and hes a good kid but he should have gone back to school and tried to improve his stock. hes entering a pretty strong WR draft year and its going to cost him money

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    • DEBUCSOWN

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      Surprised more people don’t like John Ross in the first round. Would be the home run threat that Koetter is clamoring for. Undersized at 5’11, but could be the bucs KR/PR, and would look great across from Mike Evans. Could score any time he touches the ball. Not something the bucs have had since Joey Galloway.

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    • DerekPHFD

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      I saw Charlie Campbell mocked us Ross even with Davis on the board.

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    • GIJoeWasThere

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      BPA BPA BPA BPA BPA BPA BPA.

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    • Anonymous

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      Clemson and their strength and conditioning coaches. Remember that.

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    • Hank Scorpio

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      Surprised more people don’t like John Ross in the first round. Would be the home run threat that Koetter is clamoring for. Undersized at 5’11, but could be the bucs KR/PR, and would look great across from Mike Evans. Could score any time he touches the ball. Not something the bucs have had since Joey Galloway.

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      He got exposed going up against Bama’s press coverage. He’d be a non-factor against any physical corner he went up against in the NFL

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    • htownbucfan03

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      Round 1 Pick 21 (DET): Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (A)
      Round 2 Pick 22 (MIA): David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
      Round 3 Pick 20: Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (B+)
      Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma (A+)
      Round 4 Pick 7 (WASH): Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State (A-)
      Round 4 Pick 19: Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (A)
      Round 5 Pick 10 (WASH): Julie’n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B)
      Round 5 Pick 18: Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga (B-)
      Round 6 Pick 20: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
      Round 7 Pick 25 (HOU): Jeremy Cutrer, CB, Middle Tennessee (C+)
      Round 7 Pick 30 (K.C.): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (A)

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      • Hank Scorpio

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        Round 1 Pick 21 (DET): Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (A) Round 2 Pick 22 (MIA): David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A+) Round 3 Pick 20: Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (B+) Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma (A+) Round 4 Pick 7 (WASH): Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State (A-) Round 4 Pick 19: Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (A) Round 5 Pick 10 (WASH): Julie’n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B) Round 5 Pick 18: Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga (B-) Round 6 Pick 20: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (A+) Round 7 Pick 25 (HOU): Jeremy Cutrer, CB, Middle Tennessee (C+) Round 7 Pick 30 (K.C.): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (A)

        What do you think we trade to get that many picks?  1.19 isn’t exactly a coveted positions that’s going to net a windfall of offers.

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    • DEBUCSOWN

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      Surprised more people don’t like John Ross in the first round. Would be the home run threat that Koetter is clamoring for. Undersized at 5’11, but could be the bucs KR/PR, and would look great across from Mike Evans. Could score any time he touches the ball. Not something the bucs have had since Joey Galloway.

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      He got exposed going up against Bama’s press coverage. He’d be a non-factor against any physical corner he went up against in the NFL

      can’t disagree, however, Mike Evans is best stopped by big physical corner as well, so if teams had to choose one to shut down, it would be Mike 9 out of 10 times. How many teams have two big physical above average corners? not too many honestly.. plus could find ways to get him into open space with relative ease. (bubble screens, end arounds, reverses, etc. Dude is going to be a stud mark my words. Plus bama’s defense can shut down just about any receiver (though admittedly Mike Williams did pretty damn good against them)

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    • Alldaway 2.0

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      BAP the first three rounds.

      Then go HAM filling out needs in rounds 4-7.

       

       

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    • Pepsi

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      BAP the first three rounds. Then go HAM filling out needs in rounds 4-7.

      Those are the rounds that often produce guys that dont even make the team. But look what happened when we went BAP there instead, we drafted Kwon Alexander and got a probowl caliber LB. I dont think drafting Kwon was the case of looking to fill a need, i think they had Kwon as their BPA at that round by far.

      You have to fill voids to some degree in the first 3 rounds. We shouldnt be drafting OJ Howard at pick 19 even if he were the BPA for instance when we have a young and emerged Cameron Brate on the team and need to strengthen other units

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    • XFactor

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      BAP the first three rounds. Then go HAM filling out needs in rounds 4-7.

      Those are the rounds that often produce guys that dont even make the team. But look what happened when we went BAP there instead, we drafted Kwon Alexander and got a probowl caliber LB. I dont think drafting Kwon was the case of looking to fill a need, i think they had Kwon as their BPA at that round by far. You have to fill voids to some degree in the first 3 rounds. We shouldnt be drafting OJ Howard at pick 19 even if he were the BPA for instance when we have a young and emerged Cameron Brate on the team and need to strengthen other units

       

      I’m usually pretty much in agreement with a lot of your takes, totally disagree with this one.. That’s like saying don’t draft Curtis Samuel because we already have an emerging slot WR in Humphries.

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    • spurzo

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      1)  DE – Soloman Thomas or Takk McKinley

      2) RB – Joe Mixon

      3) WT – Taywan Taylor

      4) OG – Dorian Johnson

       

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    • Pepsi

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      BAP the first three rounds. Then go HAM filling out needs in rounds 4-7.

      Those are the rounds that often produce guys that dont even make the team. But look what happened when we went BAP there instead, we drafted Kwon Alexander and got a probowl caliber LB. I dont think drafting Kwon was the case of looking to fill a need, i think they had Kwon as their BPA at that round by far. You have to fill voids to some degree in the first 3 rounds. We shouldnt be drafting OJ Howard at pick 19 even if he were the BPA for instance when we have a young and emerged Cameron Brate on the team and need to strengthen other units

      I’m usually pretty much in agreement with a lot of your takes, totally disagree with this one.. That’s like saying don’t draft Curtis Samuel because we already have an emerging slot WR in Humphries.

      I said “emerged” and I knew it wasn’t the right word perhaps. Most of us felt brate was slighted by not making the probowl as at least an alternate. That’s how great he came on for us this year. Besides being just very reliable he’s shown to be a play maker now too so I wouldn’t compare it humphries. I know some people are fine with humphries but if he can be replaced with a real game changing playmaker then I’m gladly for it.

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    • XFactor

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      Gotta choose my words carefully when it comes to Brate cause I don’t want to derail this thread, let me put it this way… You don’t pass on Hunter Henry in the 2nd round because you have Antonio Gates on the roster. You don’t not sign Martellus Bennett in FA because you have Gronk. If the Buc’s think OJ Howard is going to be a top tier TE and have him as BPA on their board then you don’t pass on him because you got needs at other positions.

      (Granted I don’t think OJ Howard will be BPA at 19, but you get the point..)

       

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    • XFactor

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      Maybe the TE position is just a bad example because I think it’s a position that you need more than 1 good one. If we are talking QB’s or LB’s than yea I agree with your point we are not taking one in the first couple rounds regardless of BPA. TE, WR, DE, CB, DT is just a different story.

       

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    • ryan welles

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      1) DE – Soloman Thomas or Takk McKinley 2) RB – Joe Mixon 3) WT – Taywan Taylor 4) OG – Dorian Johnson

       

       

       

      I think we have to go the weapons for winston route early
      1.) RB DALVIN COOK RB FSU- DOUGIE COMING BACK STILL UNDECIDED COOK EASES HIS WAY TO THE RB1

      2.) BUCKY HODGES TE VATECH-INSTALLY A DUAL TE THREAT IE PATRIOTS

      3.) MARCUS MAYE S FL-MUCH NEEDED SAFTEY HELP

      4.)ANTIONO GARCIA OL TROY- MOVES TO RT

      5.)AMBA ETTA-TAWO WR SYRACUSE-WR4

      6.)CHAD KELLY QB OLE MISS

      7.)BRYAN COX EDGE FL

       

       

      2017 NFL FREE AGENT SIGNINGS

       

      WR ALSHON JEFFERY WR CHI-WR2

      G CHANCE WOMACK G TEN–OLD DEPTH

       

      2017 BUCS RESIGNINGS IN THIS ORDER

      GHOLSTON -STARTER

      SPENCE-STARTER

      RODGERS-RB2/3

      MCDOUGALD-DEPTH

      HAWLEY – DEPTH

      SHEPARD – SPECIAL TEAM WR4/5

       

       

       

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    • pancake block

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      1) Corey Davis. 2) pocic (Lsu) center, (3) Antonio Garcia (Troy) ot

      ( 4) d’onta foreman (Texas) RB  (5) Adam shaheed (Ashland) tight end

      defensive help via free agency..eric berry, Calais Campbell, and nick fairley or dontari Poe

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    • Buc Bauce

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      1) Corey Davis. 2) pocic (Lsu) center, (3) Antonio Garcia (Troy) ot ( 4) d’onta foreman (Texas) RB (5) Adam shaheed (Ashland) tight end defensive help via free agency..eric berry, Calais Campbell, and nick fairley or dontari Poe

      All of those players will be gone before we pick in each of those rounds.

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