Monday, October 21, 2019

Will the DNC embrace or distance itself from "the squad"?

Will the DNC invite members of the squad to speak at the 2020 Democratic National Convention?

I recently heard a commentator state that they believe that whoever wins the Democratic nomination will have to invite members of the squad to speak during the Democratic National Convention to sure up the liberal base. I hear all the time that the squad doesn't represent most real democrats but I find it interesting that some people think that Trump's efforts to define democrats by their most extreme members may actually be working. What do you think? Will the DNC distance itself from it's most extreme members or embrace them?

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This topic contains 76 replies, has 8 voices, and was last updated by  Anonymous Oct. 2, 2019 at 11:32 am.

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    They aren’t the fringe, they’re the party. They’re mostly young so they haven’t learned to hide their true intentions like long standing Dems do. The entire Democratic party is full of insane individuals who want all kinds of things to become reality that are both evil and horrible for society.

    It’s a historical fact that if you want to destroy a society, and oppress as many people as possible (especially minorities) electing a leftist is hands down the surest way of accomplishing this. Again, history has proven this.

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    VirgilCaine
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    They aren’t the fringe, they’re the party. They’re mostly young so they haven’t learned to hide their true intentions like long standing Dems do. The entire Democratic party is full of insane individuals who want all kinds of things to become reality that are both evil and horrible for society.

    It’s a historical fact that if you want to destroy a society, and oppress as many people as possible (especially minorities) electing a leftist is hands down the surest way of accomplishing this. Again, history has proven this.

    Haha.

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    #1212469

    jbear
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    I think this will be an ongoing story/discussion leading up to those conventions and obviously will depend on who wins the nomination.

    The way I see it, the Republican party was the first to “break”.  It didn’t start with Trump, it started with Ron Paul and the tea party movement(2008-2012).  That movement has essentially been killed by Trump.  At least the fiscal conservative element which was a major part of the movement.  I think Trump was phase two of the destruction of the party but I’m not sure that it’s completely dead yet.  The death of the party would be the dissolution of the party or a carrying on in name only of a Christian and nationalistic coalition without any of the conservative fiscal, trade and economic policy.

    The party may be in it’s death throws or it may reform or even split due to a new wave of fiscal conservatism.  Whatever happens, the Republican party will never again be the party it was during the Obama administration.

    I see the Democrats as having their fracture stat during Bernie Sanders run against Hillary, so 2015, and 2016.  It’s in it’s infancy.   This new wave of socialism is the Democrat’s version of the tea party.  That doesn’t mean I think the radical socialists will necessarily lose just because the tea party lost.  It’s just that stage of the fracturing of the party. Will a candidate emerge who will unite the party in the embrace of the extreme left or will this wave also die off and result in the emergence of something new?

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    #1212473

    Anonymous

    Our country is so freaking divided that even the divisions have divisions.

    I agree with everything you said there..good post

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    #1212475

    Anonymous

    I’ll also add that the fiscal conservatives (like Rand Paul whom I’ve bashed) have gravitated toward Trump… outside of Amash who I would vote for as a true blue lib.

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    #1212586

    VirgilCaine
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    I think this will be an ongoing story/discussion leading up to those conventions and obviously will depend on who wins the nomination.

    The way I see it, the Republican party was the first to “break”. It didn’t start with Trump, it started with Ron Paul and the tea party movement(2008-2012). That movement has essentially been killed by Trump. At least the fiscal conservative element which was a major part of the movement. I think Trump was phase two of the destruction of the party but I’m not sure that it’s completely dead yet. The death of the party would be the dissolution of the party or a carrying on in name only of a Christian and nationalistic coalition without any of the conservative fiscal, trade and economic policy.

    The party may be in it’s death throws or it may reform or even split due to a new wave of fiscal conservatism. Whatever happens, the Republican party will never again be the party it was during the Obama administration.

    I see the Democrats as having their fracture stat during Bernie Sanders run against Hillary, so 2015, and 2016. It’s in it’s infancy. This new wave of socialism is the Democrat’s version of the tea party. That doesn’t mean I think the radical socialists will necessarily lose just because the tea party lost. It’s just that stage of the fracturing of the party. Will a candidate emerge who will unite the party in the embrace of the extreme left or will this wave also die off and result in the emergence of something new?

    Bernie and Trump are part of the same/similar movement, voters feeling unrepresented by a government that largely answers to corporations/special interests. Bernie is legitimately pro-worker, Trump is just an opportunist/nationalist so he places the blame on everyone but the corporations

    The Republican party, by definition, is a minority party. For years, the GOP was the “yeah, but” party meaning Democrats would say “war is bad” and the GOP would say “yeah, but sometimes . . .” The Democrats would say “we need to feed our poor” and the GOP “yes, but how do we pay for it?” Philosophically, the GOP has to be a minority party.

    The GOP did not start to dissolve with Paul, its started to dissolve with Goldwater.

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    jbear
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    @VirgilCaine

    You are ridiculous.

    Democrats say “We need to feed our poor” and Republicans would say “yeah but how do we pay for it”.

    Right now in another thread you’re claiming that Democrats want to cut spending and balance the budget.

    You have an opportunity to be reasonable once again and as usual you drop the ball by slinging insults and being completely untruthful.

    Also, either you or Rachael Maddow made that “minority party” bullshit up.  A minority party is a party that is not a mainstream party or does not have a majority in either house.

    Opportunity, meet Verge…. oh wait where’d he go?

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    #1212840

    VirgilCaine
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    @VirgilCaine

    You are ridiculous.

    Democrats say “We need to feed our poor” and Republicans would say “yeah but how do we pay for it”.

    Right now in another thread you’re claiming that Democrats want to cut spending and balance the budget.

    You have an opportunity to be reasonable once again and as usual you drop the ball by slinging insults and being completely untruthful.

    Also, either you or Rachael Maddow made that “minority party” bullshit up. A minority party is a party that is not a mainstream party or does not have a majority in either house.

    Opportunity, meet Verge…. oh wait where’d he go?

    I may be ridiculous, but you cannot read?

    “Philosophically, the GOP has to be a minority party.”

    Where am I saying this: “Right now in another thread you’re claiming that Democrats want to cut spending and balance the budget.

    where is the quote?

    I don’t think either party cuts spending or sincerely wants to balance the budget, so where is the quote?

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    #1212942

    jbear
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    @VirgilCaine

    You are ridiculous.

    Democrats say “We need to feed our poor” and Republicans would say “yeah but how do we pay for it”.

    Right now in another thread you’re claiming that Democrats want to cut spending and balance the budget.

    You have an opportunity to be reasonable once again and as usual you drop the ball by slinging insults and being completely untruthful.

    Also, either you or Rachael Maddow made that “minority party” bullshit up. A minority party is a party that is not a mainstream party or does not have a majority in either house.

    Opportunity, meet Verge…. oh wait where’d he go?

    I may be ridiculous, but you cannot read?

    “Philosophically, the GOP has to be a minority party.”

    Where am I saying this: “Right now in another thread you’re claiming that Democrats want to cut spending and balance the budget.

    where is the quote?

    I don’t think either party cuts spending or sincerely wants to balance the budget, so where is the quote?

    Rather than a quote I’d just like to extend an invite to anyone who reads this and is interested to please check out Verge’s really cool GM strike thread.

    Be careful though, there’s a lot of blood on the floor.

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    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by  jbear.
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    #1213147

    VirgilCaine
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    Love it when a thread is destroyed BY REALITY

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/ocasio-cortez-primary-challenger-endorsement/index.html

    The DNC = The Squad . . . . but the Squad leader (AOC) is fighting the DNC. Lmao

    and she even highlighted the FACT that the Squad is NOT the DNC:

    “Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York on Tuesday threw her support behind a progressive primary challenger to Rep. Dan Lipinski of Illinois, a lawmaker who is considered to be one of the most conservative House Democrats.

    Ocasio-Cortez called Marie Newman, who is challenging the congressman in 2020 after unsuccessfully challenging him in the 2018 midterm primary, “a grassroots fighter for working families” in a statement on Twitter.

    It’s going to take a bigger, stronger Democratic Party – one that’s returned to our FDR roots & fights for working people – to change our future in 2020,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted, adding, “We can’t afford deep blue seats fighting against healthcare & equal rights. We need @Marie4Congress.”

    and just to tweak Java a bit more, AOC chose to support a progressive against a SECOND GENERATION Dem Congressman (his father held the seat before him)

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    jbear
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    And your point?  AOC is still hoping to influence the party until the day she leaves the party.  I wouldn’t say this makes it less likely that Democrats will invite her to speak at the convention.  It all depends how things play out.

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    VirgilCaine
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    And your point? AOC is still hoping to influence the party until the day she leaves the party. I wouldn’t say this makes it less likely that Democrats will invite her to speak at the convention. It all depends how things play out.

    I just noticed you don’t have the quote from above. Lmao. Given a chance to prove you’re not a troll and you failed lmao

    Now you just had the entire premise of your thread destroyed.

    All kinds of fringe people speak at conventions that’s part of the point. Different views eventually forming one platform.

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    VirgilCaine
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    They aren’t the fringe, they’re the party.

    Lol. Hardly surprising that Escobar has egg on his face

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    #1213225

    jbear
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    And your point? AOC is still hoping to influence the party until the day she leaves the party. I wouldn’t say this makes it less likely that Democrats will invite her to speak at the convention. It all depends how things play out.

    I just noticed you don’t have the quote from above. Lmao. Given a chance to prove you’re not a troll and you failed lmao

    Now you just had the entire premise of your thread destroyed.

    All kinds of fringe people speak at conventions that’s part of the point. Different views eventually forming one platform.

    You are so fucking stupid.

    No…. I didn’t.  The premise is still valid and it will be until the convention. That’s the entire point of the thread idiot.

     

    P.S. I also don’t always quote long posts when the quote isn’t necessary.  That’s to streamline the thread.  There was no point whatsoever to quote you because what I was responding to obvious.  Anyway, what a Ludacris and silly point to make and think you earned some victory with.

     

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    #1213226

    jbear
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    @Schiano

    Any chance you’ve realized that you should get some distance from this clown?  I can’t figure why anyone would want to intentionally be associated with this troll.

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