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    • Runole

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      that will have a season like FSU had in 2014 going 13-0 with so many come behind victories before finally losing to Oregon?

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    • Anonymous

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      will there ever be another team that lost the first ever college football playoff game?

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    • Anonymous

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      will there ever be another team that lost the first ever college football playoff game?

      Yes!  Alabama !  Next! LOL

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    • Anonymous

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      i might have messed this up, are you saying that alabama lost to ohio st before fsu lost to oregon?

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    • Anonymous

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      i might have messed this up, are you saying that alabama lost to ohio st before fsu lost to oregon?

      Good Lord! No I am saying Alabama lost their first college playoff game just like FSU did.So now we are looking at what time of day the games were scheduled?  WOW!Was the FSU game before the Bama game?  Is that minutia that important to you?Seriously? On such trivial stuff,  FSU lost their first ever game against Florida even though FSU scored FIRST!  LOL Lets be Silly!And you question my point of FSU being the first team to go 28 - 0 for 2013 and 2014?I continue to hold the highest regard for FSU's ability to go 13-0 overcoming so many deficits as a far more important FIRST! 

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      lots of folks think it is silly to hold so much regard in these come from back victories.  they beat everyone on their schedule.  hold that in regard.  but to start a thread which emphasizes the current TB QB and his 2014 propensity of throwing early game INTs?  i think its BS you keep harping on these  INTs.  winston cant ever get a fair shake with folks like  you bringing up old INTs for no reason at all.its also silly to start a thread and throw in so many variable factors.  i bet it would be much better recieved on warchant.

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    • Anonymous

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      lots of folks think it is silly to hold so much regard in these come from back victories.  they beat everyone on their schedule.  hold that in regard.  but to start a thread which emphasizes the current TB QB and his 2014 propensity of throwing early game INTs?  i think its BS you keep harping on these  INTs.  winston cant ever get a fair shake with folks like  you bringing up old INTs for no reason at all.its also silly to start a thread and throw in so many variable factors.  i bet it would be much better recieved on warchant.

      Well we will agree to disagree.  Hey I loved one of the most dominating seasons ever in CFB history when FSU went 14-0 and won the National Championship.That being said I think the 2014 season was more amazing in coming back from so many deficits for another perfect regular season topped off with another come from behind win against GT in the ACC championship.  FSU had the target on their head and monkey on their back the entire 2014 season. The team just knew how to win and not to lose no matter what the deficit. I realize that such kind of a feat has been recognized by very few which is why I point out such a great accomplishment.  CFB is based so much on emotion and from viewing the game over many years, the majority of the time when a teams falls behind by a large deficit it is GAME OVER!Instead those comeback victories were not celebrated by the media but rather condemned by the media as terms like "GAME CONTROL" entered analysis for the first time in CFB history. The playoff committee even asserted this was more important than Winning? as a "quality loss" became far more important was absurdity at its finest.Topping off the absurdity was TCU being ranked 3rd and beating Iowa St 55-3 and yet dropping to 6th in the final polls!  That is beyond all logic and reasoning.The ascent of both Ole Miss and Miss St to top 5 status was a total embarrassment to the sport IMO, and certainly verified by both teams final records. Ole Miss 9-4 and Miss St 10-3.

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      did you start a new thread to repeat all your old claims?  to reminisce about 2013?  come up with some new junk.only an advocate would revel in so many come from behind victories.  a wiser fan would realize you shouldnt play with fire, or you will get burned.  (see oregon)

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    • Anonymous

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      did you start a new thread to repeat all your old claims?  to reminisce about 2013?  come up with some new junk.only an advocate would revel in so many come from behind victories.  a wiser fan would realize you shouldnt play with fire, or you will get burned.  (see oregon)

      Just bringing up 2013 in comparison. Cinderella seasons are still special just like ND in 2012 with Golson at QB.  Hmmm?  Now he has been named starter at FSU!  ;D ala Russell Wilson.Lets all hope his stay is just as successful as Russell's was at Wisconsin.  Golson is the perfect bridge for the extremely talented but inexperienced FSU. His mobility is very similar to another great FSU QB in Charlie Ward and likewise he closely resembles Russell Wilson who did a fine job at Wisconsin who also was just just what Wisconsin needed in 2011.Hopefully with his mentoring from Fisher will increase his chances at a NFL career.Going 29-0 is only junk to those embittered and envious of FSU's success. I can readily understand why any UF fan would feel such angst.  ;)

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    • Anonymous

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      FSU had a good season last year. Everybody saw the Oregon slaughter coming. Either way, it was a good year for FSU.

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    • Anonymous

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      Going 29-0 is only junk to those embittered and envious of FSU's success. I can readily understand why any UF fan would feel such angst.  ;)

      same old poster.  you dont even read what people write. you have the worst reading comprehension possible.  i said you should be happy about the record.  i said its dumb to hold in such high regard self inflicted wounds and deficits.

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    • Anonymous

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      i also dont believe that golson is in the same league as wilson, ward or winston.  but keep your fingers crossed.

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    • Anonymous

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      Going 29-0 is only junk to those embittered and envious of FSU's success. I can readily understand why any UF fan would feel such angst.  ;)

      same old poster.  you dont even read what people write. you have the worst reading comprehension possible.  i said you should be happy about the record.  i said its dumb to hold in such high regard self inflicted wounds and deficits.

      We will chose to disagree.  I think the most exciting football games played are those when certain losses miraculously turn into victories.  Hey I love blowouts especially against teams like UF and UM and would say those probably give me more pleasure than any come from behind victory. However, as for beating the crap out of team in the first quarter though pleasant doesn't get the heart pounding like a comeback victory when most believe ALL HOPE IS LOST.Guess I am just wired different than you.  JMO but I think most fans feel the same way I do.

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    • Anonymous

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      We will chose to disagree.  I think the most exciting football games played are those when certain losses miraculously turn into victories. 

      certain losses?  miracles?  what team did fsu play last season that should have been a certain loss?  every game on their schedule should have been a win.exciting, sure.  but i dont think its something to hold in high regard when a better team puts itself in a hole week in and week out.

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    • Anonymous

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      and when was ALL HOPE LOST LAST SEASON?

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    • Anonymous

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      We will chose to disagree.  I think the most exciting football games played are those when certain losses miraculously turn into victories. 

      certain losses?  miracles?  what team did fsu play last season that should have been a certain loss?  every game on their schedule should have been a win.exciting, sure.  but i dont think its something to hold in high regard when a better team puts itself in a hole week in and week out.

      You truly do not understand my point at all.In the" instant gratification"and "inflated expectations" of many fans it apparently is a difficult concept to grasp. I am sure there are many FSU fans that were miserable all year because FSU didn't blow everybody out like in 2013. Obviously they don't understand a most important metric of CFB and that is EMOTIONAL HIGHS and LOWS of every season.  Every year there are games that a team is just "FLAT" and going through the motions and ripe for an upset which invariably happens.  Has UF ever not had a season where they didn't lose at least one game? When a team falls behind rather badly how much optimism do you hold for a guaranteed victory?FSU had the "heart of a champion" in repeating its undefeated regular season in 2013 by doing the same thing in 2014 despite having to overcome numerous deficits.  Doesn't matter how they occurred, they are still deficits and overcoming them consistently is pretty much an impossible task. That is what makes 2014 so unique. They did it over and over and over and that is a remarkable achievement.  Again, I have never witnessed such a season by any other team in the history of CFB and I have followed the sport for well over 50 years!Being a UF fan you have never experienced an undefeated regular season so I guess it is understandable that you can't comprehend my point.  I find that a little odd because that is the zenith any sports team can achieve. In the past hasn't UF played games in which they sheet the bed and fell way behind only to come back to secure victory?  How long has it been or does UF always Sheet the bed when it comes to come back victories, and there are none? FSU's history is filled with such games.  Perhaps the gators just don't have such a history pf come from behind victories.  There has to be some... Right? _________________________________________Oh wait!  I do remember one.  When UF played FSU in the swamp back in 1997 and came back to win the game 32-29.  I seem to remember UF fans claiming that was one of the best games ever in winning that game....... with Tank Black's Players!  ;)

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    • Anonymous

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      Again, kudos to FSU on a good season up until they got embarrassed by Oregon. They flirted with 2-3 losses and overcame them. It was inevitably going to catch up to them.

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    • Anonymous

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      1You truly do not understand my point at all.2In the" instant gratification"and "inflated expectations" of many fans it apparently is a difficult concept to grasp. I am sure there are many FSU fans that were miserable all year because FSU didn't blow everybody out like in 2013. Obviously they don't understand a most important metric of CFB and that is EMOTIONAL HIGHS and LOWS of every season.  Every year there are games that a team is just "FLAT" and going through the motions and ripe for an upset which invariably happens.  Has UF ever not had a season where they didn't lose at least one game? 3When a team falls behind rather badly how much optimism do you hold for a guaranteed victory?4FSU had the "heart of a champion" in repeating its undefeated regular season in 2013 by doing the same thing in 2014 despite having to overcome numerous deficits.  Doesn't matter how they occurred, they are still deficits and overcoming them consistently is pretty much an impossible task. That is what makes 2014 so unique. They did it over and over and over and that is a remarkable achievement.  Again, I have never witnessed such a season by any other team in the history of CFB and I have followed the sport for well over 50 years!5Being a UF fan you have never experienced an undefeated regular season so I guess it is understandable that you can't comprehend my point.  I find that a little odd because that is the zenith any sports team can achieve. 6In the past hasn't UF played games in which they sheet the bed and fell way behind only to come back to secure victory?  How long has it been or does UF always Sheet the bed when it comes to come back victories, and there are none?

      1 you dont have a point with this thread – unless its just a “look at me, im lonely and need attention”.2  how do you measure highs and lows?  i also do not have inflated expectations, undefeated seasons mean nothing to me.3 i always have hope.4 beating teams you are favored to beat is not an impossible task.  you keep bragging about fsu coming out FLAT in just about every game to an inferior opponent.5 the zenith is simply the championship.  anything more is inflated expectations imo.6 we came back to beat lousiana monroe just a couple seasons ago.  i dont hold that in high regard.  it was an exciting game where UF came back FROM ALL ODDS to SECURE VICTORY in a MIRACULOUS fashion.  but guess what?  it was a game that UF was supposed to win that they came out flat in and simply won late. 

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      Interesting assertions/opinions  I will deal with Facts of 13-0 and 29-0 as a remarkable achievement and you attempting to diminish it does little for your credibility or commentary.As you claim FSU should have won all their games by incredible margins and should never ever fallen behind?  What a fantasy world you live in.FSU played 12 counting GT P-5 opponents. No one played that many in the entire FBS.They played 9 teams ranked in the top 50 in defense with #1 Clemson at the top of the list that they faced without Winston.I can feel your angst as you attempt to diminish me personally on just presenting an observation hardly ever made on FSU last season going 13-0.Yes, they finally lost in a playoff game to Oregon badly due to a slew of turnovers that came at the wrong time. The ball bounces that way sometime.  That doesn't diminish a 13-0 regular season. Do you look at UF 1995 team that finished its regular season and conf championship12-0 with a blowout loss to Nebraska 62-24 not worthy to celebrate?Looking at the season BOY! WAS THE SEC WEAK at that time! Only UT decent.If that is the case 4-8 with a loss to GS, you must have been on suicide watch!  ;)

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      1I will deal with Facts of 13-0 and 29-0 as a remarkable achievement and you attempting to diminish it does little for your credibility or commentary.2As you claim FSU should have won all their games by incredible margins and should never ever fallen behind?  What a fantasy world you live in.3FSU played 12 counting GT P-5 opponents. No one played that many in the entire FBS.4They played 9 teams ranked in the top 50 in defense with #1 Clemson at the top of the list that they faced without Winston.5I can feel your angst as you attempt to diminish me personally on just presenting an observation hardly ever made on FSU last season going 13-0.6Yes, they finally lost in a playoff game to Oregon badly due to a slew of turnovers that came at the wrong time. The ball bounces that way sometime.  That doesn't diminish a 13-0 regular season. 7Do you look at UF 1995 team that finished its regular season and conf championship12-0 with a blowout loss to Nebraska 62-24 not worthy to celebrate?8Looking at the season BOY! WAS THE SEC WEAK at that time! Only UT decent.9If that is the case 4-8 with a loss to GS, you must have been on suicide watch!  ;)

      1againAGAIN{again}AGAIN – you have no reading comprehension, or you simply cannot read.  i never diminished their record, i told you to hold that in high regard.2 READING COMPREHENSION pt2.  i never wrote anything of that nature.  its only 2 posts up, take a look.  no really, please look.  i said fsu was favored.  i never said they shouldnt have fallen behind.  i just dont put additional stock into beating teams when you are favored.3-4 okay, not sure where that fits in.  they played teams.  all of which they were favored to beat.5 personal diminishment?  are your feelings hurt?  right on cue with starting a thread for attention.  you wanted attention, you got it.  now you are upset?  do you even now what angst means?  no really, do you?  i certainly dont have anxiety or dread over your posts.6 they lost to oregon because they finally played a team that was on par with them, and they played as they had all season.  reckless and careless with TOs.  it has nothing to do with 13-0, except for that record finally pitted them against a really good team.7 celebrate is a difficulty one.  it was a great season that ended poorly.  i have never complained about that season.  nor have i ever started threads or conversations that are based on the best ever excitement, or championship hearts.  i deal in facts, you do too, right?  or are you all about emotions in this thread?8 was it?  definitely possible.  remembering how good other teams were 20 years ago isnt high on my list.9  i dont live and die with college football.  i enjoy watching it.  i also dont live in the past.

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    • Anonymous

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      The way you view college football and the way I do is different that is apparent.Hence the snarky remark after I posted a few gifs in anticipation of the slew of FBS games just starting.We choose to disagree. and view the game differently... Carry on!  14764992.gif

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      1 you dont have a point with this thread - unless its just a "look at me, im lonely and need attention".

      GT, go easy on the guy. He simply created another platform to show everyone his obsession with UF. No need to blast him for it.

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    • johnd

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      so Runole is celebrating the glory of a disappointing season that ended in a blow out loss? 

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    • Anonymous

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      so Runole is celebrating the glory of a disappointing season that ended in a blow out loss?

      Sure losing to Oregon badly was disappointing...  I am celebrating the glory of a 29-1 Win streak. Two perfect regular seasons in row and the amazing ability of FSU to go 13-0 after falling behind so many times.I don't recall any other team in CFB history having so many comebacks for victories for an undefeated regular season.  FSU undefeated 2013 and 2014.  One game(post season) losing streak that is now 1-1 with the victory Saturday.FSU has only lost 3 games in the last 3 seasons!  If that isn't worth celebrating we will choose to disagree.

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    • johnd

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      didn’t they fall so far behind because of the poor play of Winston?

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    • Anonymous

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      didn't they fall so far behind because of the poor play of Winston?

      Mostly it was poor defense by FSU, but Winston did make mistakes and forced throws to his two reliable targets O'leary and Greene.  Running game sucked until Cam moved to Center at the end of the year. Center was a real problem for most of the season.That being said Winston despite his own mistakes and others brought FSU back to victory 7 times overcoming deficits and that made the season truly special!I believe FSU has the longest regular season winning streak at this time which Ohio State had ( because they were banned from a bowl game) in 2012 and had streak of 25 straight regular season wins until they lost to VT last year.  If FSU beats USF it will go to 26 straight!What College team do you cheer for?

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    • Anonymous

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      so Runole is celebrating the glory of a disappointing season that ended in a blow out loss?

      It was only a disappointing season because they were undefeated up until they got dogwalked and humiliated in the playoffs. They went undefeated the year before, but couldn't repeat it the following year. Either way, it was an impressive run.

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      Runole has been pretty much right on the money about Winston and FSU all along. Regardless of what college team you root for, he’s got you beat. That pisses people off. Sucks for them. Deal with it.

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    • Anonymous

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      so Runole is celebrating the glory of a disappointing season that ended in a blow out loss?

      It was only a disappointing season because they were undefeated up until they got dogwalked and humiliated in the playoffs. They went undefeated the year before, but couldn't repeat it the following year. Either way, it was an impressive run.

      Don't disagree losing the playoff to Oregon badly was horribly disappointing and I am sure to some fans that equals the team absolutely sucking. Call it the Super Bowl or Bust syndrome which I remember Sapp saying the year Dungy got fired.  Funny thing as soon as Gruden took over they reached the ultimate in Pro Football a Super Bowl championship.In that "all or nothing" expectation FSU's 2014 season was a failure.To the more discerning observers you don't base a whole season on just winning the MNC.You look at the summation of the year and one can't be disappointed with an undefeated regular season.  They are truly rare and despite losing in the playoffs no one but FSU had one in 2014.  That alone is an incredible accomplishment however doing it with so many come back victories is truly historical in that perspective.  FSU knew how to win! no matter how many times they fell behindThis accomplishment was diminished incredibly by the playoff committee as they made up a new term that trumped WINNING and it was called GAME CONTROL.  Utterly ridiculous!Vince Lombardi and any legendary football coaches are rolling in their graves with that asininity.

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      To the more discerning observers you don't base a whole season on just winning the MNC.You look at the summation of the year and one can't be disappointed with an undefeated regular season. 

      We will have to disagree. When you are the reigning champs and are pretty much favored to repeat, anything less than back-to-back titles is a disappointment. Not even getting to the title game and getting embarrassed in one of the biggest lopsided losses in Rose Bowl history is a letdown. I have quite a few friends who are FSU fans and ALL OF THEM said that last season was a disappointment. And, none of them talk about a "undefeated regular season". As one of them put it best, "Who gives a damn. We lost the most important one. We had a one loss season."To each, their own I guess. Either way, it was an impressive run.

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      This accomplishment was diminished incredibly by the playoff committee as they made up a new term that trumped WINNING and it was called GAME CONTROL.  Utterly ridiculous!

      this is a made up argument in your mind.  no one is diminishing fsu’s regular season record or accomplishments.

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      This accomplishment was diminished incredibly by the playoff committee as they made up a new term that trumped WINNING and it was called GAME CONTROL.  Utterly ridiculous!

      this is a made up argument in your mind.  no one is diminishing fsu's regular season record or accomplishments.

      Well when a team never loses and steadily drops in the polls there certainly is something wrong in the process.I continue to believe never in CFB history has this happened:!. FSU's steady drop in the polls despite always winning their games.2. The amount of comebacks from deficits achieved by the 2014 team to an undefeated season.  Auburn in 2010 comes close but They didn't have the "monkey on their back of being National Champs" ,and they had far more blowout games. (7) where they weren't really challenged and some of their deficits were rather small.I do give Auburn credit for one of the most amazing games in CFB history when they beat Bama.  "GOT A SECOND"  "I WOULD LIKE TO RUN SOMETHING BY YOU' ;DIf neither have ever happened before I would say it is a rather unique record.There have been quite a few perfect seasons but none like FSU had in 2014.

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      Well when a team never loses and steadily drops in the polls there certainly is something wrong in the process.I continue to believe never in CFB history has this happened:!. FSU's steady drop in the polls despite always winning their games.2. The amount of comebacks from deficits achieved by the 2014 team to an undefeated season.  Auburn in 2010 comes close but They didn't have the "monkey on their back of being National Champs" ,and they had far more blowout games. (7) where they weren't really challenged and some of their deficits were rather small.I do give Auburn credit for one of the most amazing games in CFB history when they beat Bama.  "GOT A SECOND"  "I WOULD LIKE TO RUN SOMETHING BY YOU' ;DIf neither have ever happened before I would say it is a rather unique record.There have been quite a few perfect seasons but none like FSU had in 2014.

      fsu dropped in the polls because they were playing poorly.  there are many cases of teams dropping in the rankings even though they won.as long as an undefeated team played in the playoff the process was fine for said team.

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    • Anonymous

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      Well when a team never loses and steadily drops in the polls there certainly is something wrong in the process.I continue to believe never in CFB history has this happened:!. FSU's steady drop in the polls despite always winning their games.2. The amount of comebacks from deficits achieved by the 2014 team to an undefeated season.  Auburn in 2010 comes close but They didn't have the "monkey on their back of being National Champs" ,and they had far more blowout games. (7) where they weren't really challenged and some of their deficits were rather small.I do give Auburn credit for one of the most amazing games in CFB history when they beat Bama.  "GOT A SECOND"  "I WOULD LIKE TO RUN SOMETHING BY YOU' ;DIf neither have ever happened before I would say it is a rather unique record.There have been quite a few perfect seasons but none like FSU had in 2014.

      fsu dropped in the polls because they were playing poorly.  there are many cases of teams dropping in the rankings even though they won.as long as an undefeated team played in the playoff the process was fine for said team.

      Show me any example of a defending National Champion never losing a game dropping from number one to 4th in any season in CFB history,  I will stand corrected if you can give an example if not you are just making it up!

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      Show me any example of a defending National Champion never losing a game dropping from number one to 4th in any season in CFB history,  I will stand corrected if you can give an example if not you are just making it up!

      hmmm, you sure seem to have changed your tune and added a bunch of specific stipulations.  this is what i remember your writing –

      Well when a team never loses and steadily drops in the polls there certainly is something wrong in the process.I continue to believe never in CFB history has this happened: FSU's steady drop in the polls despite always winning their games

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      Show me any example of a defending National Champion never losing a game dropping from number one to 4th in any season in CFB history,  I will stand corrected if you can give an example if not you are just making it up!

      hmmm, you sure seem to have changed your tune and added a bunch of specific stipulations.  this is what i remember your writing -

      Well when a team never loses and steadily drops in the polls there certainly is something wrong in the process.I continue to believe never in CFB history has this happened: FSU's steady drop in the polls despite always winning their games

      Not at all and that is the precise reason for my post.  FSU had an absolutely amazing season being able to go undefeated with so many comebacks. It is truly sad that very few have acknowledged the "FEAT" and praised it.  Down the road hopefully there will be more astute observations on what an amazing season FSU had in 2014. To my knowledge such a perfect season has never been done in the history of CFB with so many comebacks. 

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      Not at all and that is the precise reason for my post.  FSU had an absolutely amazing season being able to go undefeated with so many comebacks. It is truly sad that very few have acknowledged the "FEAT" and praised it.  Down the road hopefully there will be more astute observations on what an amazing season FSU had in 2014. To my knowledge such a perfect season has never been done in the history of CFB with so many comebacks.

      sounds like you came to the wrong forum to hear praise for self inflicted wounds.  maybe check out warchant?if you simply want to hear that FSU had a real nice season going regular season undefeated - then yeah, they did.  down the road no one will care about how the games were played, only that OSU won the title.  except those folks at warchant.  going undefeated is a great "FEAT", stubbing your toe every week is not.

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    • Anonymous

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      FSU had an absolutely amazing season being able to go undefeated with so many comebacks. It is truly sad that very few have acknowledged the "FEAT" and praised it.  Down the road hopefully there will be more astute observations on what an amazing season FSU had in 2014. To my knowledge such a perfect season has never been done in the history of CFB with so many comebacks.

      Therein lies the problem. They didn't go undefeated. They didn't have a perfect season. They were a team, despite the ridiculous amount of talent they had, that played down to their competition on a weekly basis. They never once, IMO, look like the #1 team in the country. They had a disappointing season, but they were in the inaugural playoffs for CFB. And, they came off a perfect national championship run the year before. Hats off to a helluva stretch...

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      FSU had an absolutely amazing season being able to go undefeated with so many comebacks. It is truly sad that very few have acknowledged the "FEAT" and praised it.  Down the road hopefully there will be more astute observations on what an amazing season FSU had in 2014. To my knowledge such a perfect season has never been done in the history of CFB with so many comebacks.

      Therein lies the problem. They didn't go undefeated. They didn't have a perfect season. They were a team, despite the ridiculous amount of talent they had, that played down to their competition on a weekly basis. They never once, IMO, look like the #1 team in the country. They had a disappointing season, but they were in the inaugural playoffs for CFB. And, they came off a perfect national championship run the year before. Hats off to a helluva stretch...

      Game control trumps winning...  If that is the metric you are correct.  If winning is more important 13-0 regular and conference championship than you aren't. FSU started 2015 with a most disappointing loss that doesn't change the fact that for 2014 they never lost a game.  No other CFB team can make that statement. Coming from so many deficits to finish the regular season undefeated is just another amazing feat by FSU.Hey I completely understand those that would rather see their team dominate every game and seldom if ever trail like FSU did in 2013, but that doesn't change when a team repeatedly falls behind but somehow comes back every time to win. That again is what made 2014 special. I also understand how many FSU fans were disappointed that FSU fell behind so many times but no wins are more satisfying and exciting  than winning those games. IMOWe choose to disagree.  Just a different perspective on viewing the game.If you fear a heart attack the 2014 season was a killer. lol  If not it was absolutely thrilling!At UF last season Florida beat Kentucky in overtime at Ben Hill Griffin pulling the fat out of the fire.  Earlier they played Eastern Michigan and beat them 65-0.  Which game was more exciting?

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    • Anonymous

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      It’s like arguing with a retarded brick wall.

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      FSU had an absolutely amazing season being able to go undefeated with so many comebacks. It is truly sad that very few have acknowledged the "FEAT" and praised it.  Down the road hopefully there will be more astute observations on what an amazing season FSU had in 2014. To my knowledge such a perfect season has never been done in the history of CFB with so many comebacks.

      Therein lies the problem. They didn't go undefeated. They didn't have a perfect season. They were a team, despite the ridiculous amount of talent they had, that played down to their competition on a weekly basis. They never once, IMO, look like the #1 team in the country. They had a disappointing season, but they were in the inaugural playoffs for CFB. And, they came off a perfect national championship run the year before. Hats off to a helluva stretch...

      Game control trumps winning...  If that is the metric you are correct.  If winning is more important 13-0 regular and conference championship than you aren't. FSU started 2015 with a most disappointing loss that doesn't change the fact that for 2014 they never lost a game.  No other CFB team can make that statement. Coming from so many deficits to finish the regular season undefeated is just another amazing feat by FSU.Hey I completely understand those that would rather see their team dominate every game and seldom if ever trail like FSU did in 2013, but that doesn't change when a team repeatedly falls behind but somehow comes back every time to win. That again is what made 2014 special. I also understand how many FSU fans were disappointed that FSU fell behind so many times but no wins are more satisfying and exciting  than winning those games. IMOWe choose to disagree.  Just a different perspective on viewing the game.If you fear a heart attack the 2014 season was a killer. lol  If not it was absolutely thrilling!At UF last season Florida beat Kentucky in overtime at Ben Hill Griffin pulling the fat out of the fire.  Earlier they played Eastern Michigan and beat them 65-0.  Which game was more exciting?

      Like I said, it was an impressive run. Undefeated season in 2013 and almost duplicated it the following season. But, it was evident last year that they weren't the best team in the nation. They weren't even Top 3. The end proved the polls right in regards to the Top 4 in the playoffs.

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      It's like arguing with a retarded brick wall.

      Not at all.. It is like those that prefer "GAME CONTROL" and (winning or looking good losing) to falling behind and (winning!) Hey, I love blowouts as much as the next guy. Relaxing and satisfying WORRY FREE!  8)That being said despite heart palpitations,  the relief and unbelievable euphoria of winning a game that appeared to be an assured loss after falling far behind has its merits. Since you are a gator fan how did you feel in 1997 when UF beat FSU in the closing minutes?How did you feel when Rix threw that TD pass to Sam at the same stadium 2003?I will never forget Scott Brantley's comments just 2 plays before Rix hit Sam for pay dirt.I am sure he will never forget.

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      FSU had an absolutely amazing season being able to go undefeated with so many comebacks. It is truly sad that very few have acknowledged the "FEAT" and praised it.  Down the road hopefully there will be more astute observations on what an amazing season FSU had in 2014. To my knowledge such a perfect season has never been done in the history of CFB with so many comebacks.

      Therein lies the problem. They didn't go undefeated. They didn't have a perfect season. They were a team, despite the ridiculous amount of talent they had, that played down to their competition on a weekly basis. They never once, IMO, look like the #1 team in the country. They had a disappointing season, but they were in the inaugural playoffs for CFB. And, they came off a perfect national championship run the year before. Hats off to a helluva stretch...

      Game control trumps winning...  If that is the metric you are correct.  If winning is more important 13-0 regular and conference championship than you aren't. FSU started 2015 with a most disappointing loss that doesn't change the fact that for 2014 they never lost a game.  No other CFB team can make that statement. Coming from so many deficits to finish the regular season undefeated is just another amazing feat by FSU.Hey I completely understand those that would rather see their team dominate every game and seldom if ever trail like FSU did in 2013, but that doesn't change when a team repeatedly falls behind but somehow comes back every time to win. That again is what made 2014 special. I also understand how many FSU fans were disappointed that FSU fell behind so many times but no wins are more satisfying and exciting  than winning those games. IMOWe choose to disagree.  Just a different perspective on viewing the game.If you fear a heart attack the 2014 season was a killer. lol  If not it was absolutely thrilling!At UF last season Florida beat Kentucky in overtime at Ben Hill Griffin pulling the fat out of the fire.  Earlier they played Eastern Michigan and beat them 65-0.  Which game was more exciting?

      Like I said, it was an impressive run. Undefeated season in 2013 and almost duplicated it the following season. But, it was evident last year that they weren't the best team in the nation. They weren't even Top 3. The end proved the polls right in regards to the Top 4 in the playoffs.

      Not sure I agree.  It might have been the validation the pollsters hoped all year for, but with so many critical turnovers it is difficult to make such an assertion objectively.FSU having 348 yards passing and 180 yards rushing doesn't show it to be as dominating victory as the score indicated.Not many teams can survive 5 turnovers especially when they occurred.  Hey Oregon took advantage and won the game convincingly. As for it being affirmation of FSU not being in the top 4 teams in the country?  We will choose to disagree.  Hey even with the loss they finished tied for 5th in the AP poll.

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      That being said despite heart palpitations,  the relief and unbelievable euphoria of winning a game that appeared to be an assured loss after falling far behind has its merits.

      which games last season appeared to be assured losses?

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      Since you are a gator fan how did you feel in 1997 when UF beat FSU in the closing minutes?

      wasnt fsu the top team in the nation and a huge favorite in that 1997 game?  as in completely opposite scenario?

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      That being said despite heart palpitations,  the relief and unbelievable euphoria of winning a game that appeared to be an assured loss after falling far behind has its merits.

      which games last season appeared to be assured losses?

      Clemson, Louisville, ND, NC St, and Miami  Had loss written all over them.UF, GT , and BC were games that were uncomfortable and a couple of bad bounces of the Ball could have very well turned out badlyFSU was pretty much in control on the others  Syracuse Wake and Virgina  The only cream puff was the Citadel.Okie state got a bit dicey at the end which in retrospect showed that FSU was going to struggle with the only CFB team to play 11 P-5 schools 12 with GT.

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      Since you are a gator fan how did you feel in 1997 when UF beat FSU in the closing minutes?

      wasnt fsu the top team in the nation and a huge favorite in that 1997 game?  as in completely opposite scenario?

      Really?  Polls and odds are just opinions and they are more wrong than right. Odds are set for the house to maximize their profits.It is a rivalry game and it was at UF!FSU was the  favorite and UF was ranked #9 and FSU #1.  UF was coming off a National Championship in 1996 which is why I used the example.  They had "the Monkey" on their back and that probably contributed to UF losing to both Georgia and LSU that year.  Once again proving my point that when a target is on your head it is hard to repeat let alone go undefeated. Additionally, since UF had lost 2 they had nothing to lose and everything to gain.Florida at that time was the "CREAM" at the top of the SEC. UF was coming off 5 straight SEC championship games.This guy considers it the greatest game ever played?http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30whqz

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      Really?  Polls and odds are just opinions and they are more wrong than right.

      Then why are you upset and sensitive about FSU dropping in the polls last season?

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      Really?  Polls and odds are just opinions and they are more wrong than right.

      Then why are you upset and sensitive about FSU dropping in the polls last season?

      Because they influenced the playoff committee and that who is determining the playoffs!  FSU should have never dropped out of Number one.  As long as you win you shouldn't drop. Every other team had a loss last season.  FSU should have been the number one seed.  Think the NFL would allow such nonsense? or any other sport?

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