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    • Scott Reynolds

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      The previous Bucs regime was concerned that injured WR Mike Williams was too caught up in partying and his new rap career because of his antics on social media. Williams accumulated fines of over $200,000 in 2013 for missed rehab sessions and meetings, and the team was contemplating releasing him in 2014. https://www.pewterreport.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=9562:&Itemid=15

    • Anonymous

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      I hope his mom reads this… 

    • Anonymous

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      I KNEW it! One look at his twitter tells you he’s a dummy

    • Anonymous

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      What?!  I thought Mike Williams was a standup fella dedicated to football.Did WR just become a greater need?

    • Anonymous

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      OK, I understand that MW19 ius a knucklehead and all so you might want to move on but then to turn around and do this “the Bucs were considering signing former Rutgers wide receiver Kenny Britt, a first-round pick in Tennessee in 2009 and free agent in 2014, who might have replaced Williams” <— What? I mean if MW19 is a court jester, Britt is the Duke of Dumb.Reality is I'm not sure how good MW19 is and I think more than anything the fact that he is non-complimentary to VJax means he is best served as a 3rd WR not a second.

    • Anonymous

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      Lucky for Williams that Smith is one of the best coaches to make or break this guy through his own actions.

    • Anonymous

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      His social media shit bothers the buc fan in me.

    • Anonymous

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      Been seeing this coming for awhile. He posts such ridiculous stuff on twitter. Vine videos from the strip club is his most recent brilliant idea. Hate to say it, but unless something drastic happens, he appears to be heading for disaster. Sucks because he is a great talent and we don’t need another hole to fill…..but the good news is he got almost all his guaranteed money last year and if the sh!t hits the fan we can dump him with no penalty or cap hit. Hope he gets his sh!t together because I really like Mike as a player, but it’s looking more and more like he’ll never reach is full potential due to a bad case of being an idiot. I hope Lovie calls him into the office and breaks it down for Mike. If he can't grow up and give 100% then trade him while he still has value.

    • Anonymous

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      SO THEY KNEW ABOUT ALL THIS ….  and  Dummynik still felt it so important to extend him to a lucrative long term deal before the start of last season ??Wow..... why extend him at all !!!??Worst GM ever....Trade him for 3rd round pick and draft Sammy

    • Anonymous

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      YEAR BASE           S. BONUS MISC.         CAP HIT           DEAD2013 7,200,000 134,562 1,000,000 8,334,562 9,534,5622014 1,200,000     -                 600,000 1,800,000 1,200,0002015 5,200,000     -                 1,600,000 6,800,000 -2016 5,600,000     -                 1,600,000 7,200,000 -2017 5,900,000     -                 1,600,000 7,500,000 -2018 4,150,000     -                 4,600,000 8,750,000 -I'm sure that 2014 salary has something to do with it.

    • Anonymous

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      Willing to give him a pass for this last year.  Kid is young and just got paid…hard to blame him for not being motivated to rehab with the regime we had…hell I had a hard time being motivated to watch.  I will say that after reading this, I am becoming a bigger fan of Watkins at #7.

    • Anonymous

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      SO THEY KNEW ABOUT ALL THIS ....  and  Dummynik still felt it so important to extend him to a lucrative long term deal before the start of last season ??Wow.....Worst GM ever....

      Or possibly brilliant when it comes to how it was structured.  I will agree Dom had some bad signings...but at least the recent ones have pretty good "out clauses" for the team. 

    • Anonymous

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      “so this should only serve as a warning to Williams and other Buccaneers players that it’s not just a bevy of fans and hot women that follow their every move on social media”uh oh?

    • Anonymous

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      Bring on Sammy Watkins.

    • Anonymous

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      "so this should only serve as a warning to Williams and other Buccaneers players that it’s not just a bevy of fans and hot women that follow their every move on social media"uh oh?

      I hadnt seen anything questionable on other players twitter feeds.  I follow most of the players of consequence, so if they are referring to the Tiquan Underwoods as potential problems...thats a simple fix.

    • Anonymous

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      I think the likelihood of the Licht and Lovie taking Watkins at 7 has gone up quite a bit.I could most definitely see the Bucs moving Mike if Lovie can't get through to him.

    • Anonymous

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      SO THEY KNEW ABOUT ALL THIS ....  and  Dummynik still felt it so important to extend him to a lucrative long term deal before the start of last season ??Wow.....Worst GM ever....

      Or possibly brilliant when it comes to how it was structured.  I will agree Dom had some bad signings...but at least the recent ones have pretty good "out clauses" for the team.

      It's not brilliant anyway you slice it . Who's to say he wouldn't go AWOL in 2015 instead of 2014....we could have traded him before , now we probably can't even trade the guy because no one will want that contract on the books.I ask again : WHY EXTEND HIM TO A LONGTERM LUCRATIVE DEAL AT ALL !!??  I don't care how it's structured, That is effing retarded !!Good freakin lord I'm glad this guy is fired. The fact that they knew about this and gave him a huge deal anyways infuriates me....

    • Anonymous

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      I think we can all pause for a moment and not skyway it yet…  Lovie will take a turn on this possible issue.

    • Anonymous

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      I think the likelihood of the Licht and Lovie taking Watkins at 7 has gone up quite a bit.I could most definitely see the Bucs moving Mike if Lovie can't get through to him.

      Still don't want Watson at #7.....but if we can trade back and gain a 3rd, then maybe we use two of our top 100 picks on WRs. If we could get a 3rd for Mike Will....then that would help tremendously. This WR class is so good and so deep, this would definitely be the time to replace him if it's gonna happen. I love Mike and would hate to see him go, but If we managed to get Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry....then I think I'd get over it rather quickly.

    • Anonymous

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      SO THEY KNEW ABOUT ALL THIS ....  and  Dummynik still felt it so important to extend him to a lucrative long term deal before the start of last season ??Wow.....Worst GM ever....

      Or possibly brilliant when it comes to how it was structured.  I will agree Dom had some bad signings...but at least the recent ones have pretty good "out clauses" for the team.

      It's not brilliant anyway you slice it . Who's to say he wouldn't go AWOL in 2015 instead of 2014....we could have traded him before , now we probably can't even trade the guy because no one will want that contract on the books.I ask again : WHY EXTEND HIM TO A LONGTERM LUCRATIVE DEAL AT ALL !!??  I don't care how it's structured, That is effing retarded !!Good freakin lord I'm glad this guy is fired. The fact that they knew about this and gave him a huge deal anyways infuriates me....

      Silver linings bro...silver linings.

    • Anonymous

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      Let’s face it folks. Football is a game that many of us played for fun. But let’s not fool ourselves that these NFL players have to put a ton of time and effort into doing what they do. A majority of the motivation is to make it. Once they’ve made it, the motivation sometimes fades. It doesn’t make Mike a bad person, just makes him human. Unfortunately it may also make it not  a buccaneer. I’ll agree it doesn’t look good at best and indicates football isn’t his priority any more at worst.Let's be honest though. No one should be shocked, the guy walked away from his college team as a senior.

    • Anonymous

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      SO THEY KNEW ABOUT ALL THIS ....  and  Dummynik still felt it so important to extend him to a lucrative long term deal before the start of last season ??Wow.....Worst GM ever....

      Or possibly brilliant when it comes to how it was structured.  I will agree Dom had some bad signings...but at least the recent ones have pretty good "out clauses" for the team.

      It's not brilliant anyway you slice it . Who's to say he wouldn't go AWOL in 2015 instead of 2014....we could have traded him before , now we probably can't even trade the guy because no one will want that contract on the books.I ask again : WHY EXTEND HIM TO A LONGTERM LUCRATIVE DEAL AT ALL !!??  I don't care how it's structured, That is effing retarded !!Good freakin lord I'm glad this guy is fired. The fact that they knew about this and gave him a huge deal anyways infuriates me....

      Silver linings bro...silver linings.

      LOL !

    • Anonymous

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      His contract isn’t bad. He got all his guaranteed money in the first year so he can be cut with no penalties or cap hit if he screws up, and his average salary makes him the 17th highest paid WR in the league. Seems like the perfect contract for a guy that shows amazing potential, has great production, but serious character concerns. If we cut him today, we got 215 receptions, 3000 yards, and 25 TDs over four years for a total of $10.6M. That's an average of $2.6M/yr over his four years here. If he plays this year, he only costs $1.8M against the cap. Seems like a pretty good damn deal to me.

    • Anonymous

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      His contract isn't bad. He got all his guaranteed money in the first year so he can be cut with no penalties or cap hit if he screws up, and his average salary makes him the 17th highest paid WR in the league. Seems like the perfect contract for a guy that shows amazing potential, has great production, but serious character concerns.

      Yea, and I would take a 3rd for him.  A change of scenery might be good for him.  I wonder if the new regime has Bill Belicheat on speed dial on their phones still.

    • Anonymous

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      How bout we see what he does with the CURRENT regime before we write him off??

    • Anonymous

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      How bout we see what he does with the CURRENT regime before we write him off??

      I have no problem with that...but just saying I wouldnt be shocked if the new regime makes a move on him.

    • Anonymous

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      How bout we see what he does with the CURRENT regime before we write him off??

      Agree. Don't wanna jump the gun. It's just that a lot of us have seen this coming for quite awhile and if Lovie sits down with him and can't get through to him....then I would hate to hold on too long like we did with Talib and Freeman. Make a decision while he still has good value. His contract only pays him $1.8M for the 2014 season.....so there almost certainly would be a cap strapped team with a lack of WRs that would like to have him.

    • Anonymous

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      His contract isn't bad. He got all his guaranteed money in the first year so he can be cut with no penalties or cap hit if he screws up, and his average salary makes him the 17th highest paid WR in the league. Seems like the perfect contract for a guy that shows amazing potential, has great production, but serious character concerns.

      Yea, and I would take a 3rd for him.  A change of scenery might be good for him.  I wonder if the new regime has Bill Belicheat on speed dial on their phones still.

      We could have gotten a 3rd rounder all day.....until Dummynik screwed up with this deal that is . Now no one will want to trade for him now unless we are giving him away.

    • Anonymous

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      How bout we see what he does with the CURRENT regime before we write him off??

      Not writing him off....just baffled we extended a guy who we knew was a train wreck in his personal life....as if 2014 was the only year he could screw us.

    • Anonymous

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      Lets see what lovie can get out of him first.  Sounds like Williams needs to re-dedicate himself and be a lot smarter with social media, but we are starting over.  The coaches are gone and so is the bad environment.  He is not committing crimes or anything like that.  One conversation with Lovie could do the trick.  You do not want another Bennett situation on our hands.

    • Anonymous

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      His contract isn't bad. He got all his guaranteed money in the first year so he can be cut with no penalties or cap hit if he screws up, and his average salary makes him the 17th highest paid WR in the league. Seems like the perfect contract for a guy that shows amazing potential, has great production, but serious character concerns.

      Yea, and I would take a 3rd for him.  A change of scenery might be good for him.  I wonder if the new regime has Bill Belicheat on speed dial on their phones still.

      We could have gotten a 3rd rounder all day.....until Dummynik screwed up with this deal that is . Now no one will want to trade for him now unless we are giving him away.

      His 2014 cap hit is peanuts so we are giving him away if we trade him.

    • Anonymous

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      His contract isn't bad. He got all his guaranteed money in the first year so he can be cut with no penalties or cap hit if he screws up, and his average salary makes him the 17th highest paid WR in the league. Seems like the perfect contract for a guy that shows amazing potential, has great production, but serious character concerns.

      Yea, and I would take a 3rd for him.  A change of scenery might be good for him.  I wonder if the new regime has Bill Belicheat on speed dial on their phones still.

      We could have gotten a 3rd rounder all day.....until Dummynik screwed up with this deal that is . Now no one will want to trade for him now unless we are giving him away.

      His 2014 cap hit is peanuts so we are giving him away if we trade him.

      They are on the hook for the rest of it though .If they are giving up a quality pick they want him for more than 1 season.

    • Anonymous

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        Welcome back to the NFL, Lovie…    Just imagine the outcry if Dominik HAD let Williams walk rather than extend him. He was already being held up by Michael Bennett...

    • Anonymous

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      A team that has cap issues and no WRs would love to have Mike WIll for a 3rd and $1.8M. It would be a one year prove it deal for him, and if he stays out of trouble and performs, then I’m sure that team would have no problem continuing to pay his contract…which is the 17th highest for a WR. If not, then they cut him with no penalty and all they lost was a 3rd. I have a feeling he would blow up in New England. Bill seems to have a lot of success with talented dummies.

    • Anonymous

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      Should have traded him

    • Anonymous

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