Winston anyone?

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  • #1125002
    Chris Fox
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    I can’t believe the hate I got earlier the past months regarding Winston. Now look where we are. Still think Winston is the golden boy? I don’t get it…move on sheesh..

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    #1126158
    Anonymous
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    Post your thread in the other forum as this one doesn’t get much action.

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    #1134012
    White Tiger
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    Dude, you haven’t seen hatred…

     

    Should’ve been around here when some of us dared make the case for Marriota instead of a guy who always seemed to put his team behind in games by taking stupid chances, making stupid decisions, over-estimating his abilities – on the field (seemingly JUST SO he could look like a hero by throwing bomb-attempts to get his team back into the game he took them out of in the first place)

    …who also seemed to have a penchant for… letting his team down OFF the field…

    Probably shocking to them all to find how different he is now…

    Any of this starting to sound familiar…?

    Anyone, anyone?

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    #1134053
    DonkeyHunter
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    Yawn…

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    #1134079
    Anonymous
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    I can’t believe the hate I got earlier the past months regarding Winston. Now look where we are. Still think Winston is the golden boy? I don’t get it…move on sheesh..

    who said anything about being a Golden Boy?

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    #1134080
    Anonymous
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    Dude, you haven’t <em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>seen hatred…

    Should’ve been around here when some of us dared make the case for Marriota instead of a guy who always seemed to put his team behind in games by taking stupid chances, making stupid decisions, over-estimating his abilities – on the field (seemingly JUST SO he could look like a hero by throwing bomb-attempts to get his team <em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>back into the game he took them out of in the first place)

    …who also seemed to have a penchant for… letting his team down <em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>OFF the field…

    Probably shocking to them all to find how different he is now…

    Any of this starting to sound familiar…?

    Anyone, anyone?

    Mariota isn’t faring well either.

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    #1134090
    White Tiger
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    Really? At 5-5 Marriota has his team in the fight for a Wild Card Playoff spot today against a division rival – after just laying a beatdown on the Patriots 2 weeks ago.

    He missed last week with a stinger…I don’t think he’s missed a single game due to controversy – and no one is speculating about his future with the team…

    I don’t care who you are, that’s a LOT different than the Buccaneer situation.

    I’d switch places with that any day!

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    #1134099
    Anonymous
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    he’s yet to play 16 games in a regular season —because of injury….you think he’d have fared better in the NFC South vs Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Cam Newton instead of the easy division the Titans are in? If anything he’s middle a middle of the pack QB as Winston has been except this season….Titans may be in the leagues easiest divisions.

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    #1134627
    White Tiger
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    Short answer: Yes.

    Longer, but possibly more grueling answer (for a Winston apologist): Winston has been given a better supporting cast and one head coach, Marriota has consistently improved under 3 different HC’s.

    Winston has missed games due to injury, and taken himself off the field due to character issues & poor play. That is the exact debate we had & my argument for why our Bucs should have picked Marriota.

    Today, Titans fans are talking about the playoff possibilities a win over the Texans will bring them…while Bucs fans are reading articles about whether Koetter will be fired, and IF their once promising “franchise” QB deserves another contract in Tampa Bay…

    Those are two very different points of development for these two…and NO WHERE NEAR where this team thought they would be when they selected Winston over Marriota.

    The Bucs went with what they called the ‘fiery personality’…and they got it. Winston just seems to save his most fiery performances for student unions and Über drivers, while Marriota prefers to demonstrate his public displays on the field…like the 38-10 drubbing of the Patriots 2 weeks ago.

    Everyone here knows the Bucs are simply (and still) trying to get inside the head of the kid they already committed the future of their “franchise” to 4 years ago…the problem is that they’re still awaiting BOTH on & off-the-field maturity to kick-in for their Gremlin-like “franchise QB” (don’t let him drink!)…while Winston’s shown flashes on the field, he’s still not ANYWHERE near who they thought he’d be by now – meanwhile the OFF-the-field flashes…are keeping Winston OFF the field…more than Marriota’s missed due to injury. One of those is excused by teammates, the other isn’t.

    Everything I predicted has come true – Winston has done NOTHING to change the mind of those of us waiting for our team to win…meanwhile, Marriota, has.

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    #1135258
    DonkeyHunter
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    Comical that some people still think that Mariota is a superior QB.

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    #1135705
    White Tiger
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    ‘Superior’ isn’t the word used for a player with 4 years in the league who still can’t keep his off-field behavior from limiting his on-field availability.

    ‘Superior’ isn’t the word they use for throwing your team into trouble, then dig a deeper hole for your team while you attempt to throw them out of the trouble you put them in – on the field. Especially when you were drafted as the “franchise.”

    On those factors alone, Marriota is ‘superior.’

     

    “Comical’ isn’t the word used for anyone who thinks that’s ‘superior.’

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    #1135719
    White Tiger
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    Marriota has been on the field 1 less game than Fameis over the same time period.

    Let that sink in.

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    #1135728
    DonkeyHunter
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    ‘Superior’ isn’t the word used for a player with 4 years in the league who <em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>still can’t keep his off-field behavior from limiting his on-field availability.

    That’s really all you have in the Mariota vs. Winston department. You’re right. An incident that happened a few years ago caught up to him and hurt him and the team.

    At this point, he’s one strike away from a possible lifetime ban from the league.

    All on him to keep his nose clean.

    ‘Superior’ isn’t the word they use for throwing your team into trouble, then dig a <em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>deeper hole for your team while you <em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>attempt to throw them out of the trouble you put them in – on the field. Especially when you were drafted as the “franchise.”

    Really?

    That sure sounds a lot like Mariota last year. You know, when he actually threw more picks than TD’s over the course of a season. Unlike Winston, Mariota has never been asked to be anything more than a game manager. And, even then, he struggled mightily.

    “Comical’ isn’t the word used for anyone who thinks that’s ‘<em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>superior.’

    You’re right.

    “Low football acumen” would’ve been a better option. With “Someone who’s never actually watched Mariota play” coming in at a close 2nd place.

     

    “Comical’ isn’t the word used for anyone who thinks that’s ‘<em class=”gdbbx-bbcode-italic”>superior.’

     

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    #1135742
    White Tiger
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    Again, that’s really all that applies, isn’t it.

    Look at you & you’re right – ‘low football acumen’ – is a much better option…but then again, it’s more of a phrase (or way of life)…

    If you’re going to use four years of excuses in an attempt to rationalize how ‘superior’ Winston is to Marriota – on the field – perhaps the one word you’re searching for is ‘futile‘?

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    #1135764
    DonkeyHunter
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    Facts and excuses are two different things. Clearly, something that eludes you.

    You mentioned that Mariota has “consistently improved every year, under multiple HC’s”.”

    Again, FACTS show that isn’t the case. Unless, you’re a believer that in a QB’s third year, that throwing more INT’s than TD’s, is “consistent improvement”. Or, that in a 4th year (which happens to be the most explosive offensive year in the history of the league), that carrying a sub-200 YPG and a sub-1 TD per game average is improvement or “franchise QB” material.

    And, while you’re going on and on about how the Titans are talking about potential playoffs this year; please don’t forget the fragile one is a jaw-dropping 3-6 as a starter. So, perhaps you’d like to put down the Kool-Aid with your implication that he is somehow responsible for it.

    Or, like last year, how you’re essentially bragging about Mariota leading the Titans to the playoffs. Please explain how a QB who throws more picks than TD’s, has half a dozen games or so of less than 200 yards passing, and who averaged less than 1 passing TD per game, “lead” a team to the playoffs. Definitely curious to hear that one.

    So, yeah, “low football acumen” looks like it fits the bill perfectly with you.

    Nothing wrong with that.

     

     

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