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April 26, 2013 @ 8:53 pm
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QB Glennon More Of A Threat To Orlovsky Than Freeman

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The Buccaneers drafted North Carolina State QB Mike Glennon in the third round, which raised some eyebrows in Tampa Bay. But Glennon will likely compete for Dan Orlovsky's backup job more than challenge Josh Freeman for the starting job.
The Buccaneers wanted to upgrade the talent at the quarterback position and did so in the third round with the addition of North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon. The Wolfpack star is expected to be more of a challenger to Dan Orlovsky for the backup job than he will be to Josh Freeman for the starting job.

“I’m just excited to go down there and meet Josh,” Glennon said. “I was a teammate of [Bucs offensive lineman] Ted Larsen, I know some guys on the team and I’ve heard great things about Josh. By nature, I’m going to compete and do everything coaches ask of me.

“I want to go in and compete, whatever the situation is, but I am going to do what is best for the team. That is up to the coaching staff to decide. I am going to go there and be part of the team and just contribute in any way possible. I am going to do whatever it takes behind the scenes. I obviously want to go in there and compete, but that is up to the coaching staff to decide.”

In a bad quarterback draft, Glennon was taken by the Bucs in the third round and was the third signal caller selected in 2013. In a good quarterback class, Glennon might not have been drafted until the fourth or fifth rounds. If you are looking for a quarterback to compare Glennon to, think of Chris Simms. Simms was a backup for a while, got a chance to start, showed some initial promise before underwhelming the rest of his career.

At 6-foot-7, 225 pounds, Glennon is slightly taller than Freeman and has good size to see over offensive linemen and quickly find open receivers. Glennon, who sat behind quarterback Russell Wilson in college for three years, has the big arm that Tampa Bay head coach Greg Schiano and offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan like in a quarterback.

“My coaches did a great job with me at N.C. State,” Glennon said. “We ran a pro-style offense at N.C. State and I think my foundation of understanding an offensive playbook in the NFL is much greater than a lot of these guy coming out. [The N.C. State coaching staff] did a great job of developing me. The past two quarterbacks [the coaching staff coached] before me were Russell Wilson and Matt Ryan [in Boston College]. Those two went on to do extremely well as rookies. I feel like they prepared me really well.”

But Glennon has to overcome some accuracy issues at the next level and is probably two years away from really being ready to line up under center in the NFL. Glennon’s accuracy fell during his senior season from 62.5 percent to 58.5 percent, while he threw for 4,031 yards in 2012 after passing for 3,054 as a junior. Glennon threw 31 touchdowns in each of the last two seasons, but saw his interceptions climb from 12 in 2011 to 17 last year.

The Wolfpack star needs to make quicker decisions with the ball and become more accurate. Glennon has a big-time arm and can make all of the throws, but will need time to develop in the NFL. He will likely challenge Orlovsky for the backup job more than he will put pressure on Freeman, who is in a contract year, for playing time.

The Bucs’ third-round pick needs to add about 15 pounds to his lanky frame and really work on his throwing motion and his mobility. He had 56 carries for minus-164 yards and two touchdowns in 2012. Most of that lost yardage total came from sacks.

“I really worked on my throwing motion my whole life,” Glennon said. “Something I took a lot of pride in growing up and developing my mechanics. The ball comes out extremely well. I have an over-the-top delivery. It just spins out of hands extremely well. I am trying to continue my footwork and improve in that area.”

Glennon finished his senior season 7-5 after going 9-3 as a junior. His signature win came in a 17-16 come-from-behind win last year over a Florida State team that was unbeaten and ranked in the top 5. He threw a last-minute, game-winning touchdown in a nationally televised contest on ESPN.

I had intentions of going to NC State to win some championships and I wasn’t able to do that. I sat behind Russell Wilson for three years. The competitor in me wanted to be out on the field, but I learned a lot from him and he went on to have tremendous success. In those two years as a starter, feel I played pretty good. Wish I could have won some more games, but overall I had a great experience at NC State.

Glennon had 12 games with three touchdowns or more in college, including four in which he tossed five scoring strikes. His best game statistically came in a 62-48 defeat to Clemson in 2012 when he completed 29-of-53 passes for 493 yards with five touchdowns and one interception.

Glennon, whose brother Sean was a former starting quarterback at Virginia Tech, was recruited by Schiano out of high school, but turned down the scholarship opportunity at Rutgers in favor of N.C. State.

“I remember exactly what I said to him and he didn’t really like the answer, but I wanted to play in the ACC,” Glennon said. “At the time, I felt N.C. State was the best school for me. It’s kind of cool now to be coached by him.

“I’m actually pretty familiar with Coach Schiano and his staff. They recruited me five years ago when I was coming out of high school. I think we both kind of kept tabs on each other throughout those five years. Overall, through this process, I did not have a lot of contact with them. I wasn’t really sure what to think. I heard some whispers. I’m just real excited to get down to Tampa Bay, meet my teammates and get started.”

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    This pick was an unfortunate necessity. They didn't pick him to come in if Free gets hurt, they picked him because they have serious doubts about Free. And deservedly so. But this pick isn't the problem, the problem is the 1st we spent on Free yrs ago in the dark days of the Rah era. That is why missing on high draft picks is so critical, you pay for those mistakes a 2nd (and sometimes a 3rd/4th time, as we have with QBs virtually the entire history of the franchise). Look at our DL and how many picks we've thrown at that, and to this day we don't know whether GMC, Clayborn or Bowers will ever be better than 'B' level producers (if GMC actually starts tackling people behind the line this season, instead of watching them run by, I will happily admit my 'mistake'. So far, he hasn't come close to living up to his draft position or contract). Glennon reminds me of Free (big arm, poor accuracy) but we had to do something, we couldn't roll into the '14 season w/no QB if Josh doesn't show significant improvement in '13.
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    There was a capable DT available to the Bucs in the third round before they took Glennon. His name is Sylvester Williams of North Carolina, who because he would have been able to break through the line and gotten some sacks, and would have forced other teams to double team him and let our three technique get after the QB too. Now too many of you have a negative view of Orlovsky, but I believe that comes from Schiano only bringing him into games with the whole second team offensive line, and his stats underwhelmed. Schiano didn't dare bring him in with the first team offensive line because he didn't want him to outsihine Freeman, like he did in the Preseason. I believe Orlovsky will outplay Glennon in the Preseason this year--wait and see. Landry in the fourth should have been the QB pick. I see DOM as being too influenced by Schiano in this draft. Schiano just wanted Glennon because he knew him better. DOM should have brought in the right QB at the right spot in the draft and gotten maximum value from the draft. He failed to do that, although I still give DOM kudos for getting Reavis, and the stars he picked last year in the draft.
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    I go to all the home UConn games and watched Orlovsky. I'd pass as a Buc's fan.
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    JonnnyG: I was surprised we drafted a QB in the 3rd round. I thought it would be the 4th. I know very little about Glennon except the little blurbs and Gruden's bit with him. That's my point. You and others want to declare that the "Draft sucks" based on nothing. Who's "Big Board"? Certainly not one developed by a consensus of actual NFL scouting departments published for all to see. No, these "Big Boards" are developed by all sorts of people with limited information.
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    scubog: C'mon here. This was a bad pick for the 3rd round. And it has a Schiano taste to it since he recruited him out of high school and lost. As I have posted, I am a big fan of Dominick and not a big Schiano supporter. I think Mark has done a great job and should be extended. But this pick doesn't make sense. You draft for depth in rounds 5-7, not 3rd. I think the Bucs are poised to do big things in 2013, but objectively how can I/you actually like this pick?
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    @arizonajoe: Couldn´t agree more about getting quality in the first 3 Rd´s and 5-7 = Depth. And since we started a win-now mentality, why aren´t we attacking the draft differently, getting the final pieces? Now, we are lacking the talent at other positions and can HOPE to fill them next season.. We could have going aggresive, trading for another 2nd round pick (early one), pick up TE Ertz. Then picking either WR or DT/DE with the 2nd 2ndRounder and the opposite in the 3rd = finished product to make a run
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    If you look at a lot of his games his receivers dropped a lot of passes he put right in their hands I seen more than a few passes get picked off after his receivers tipped the balls that he put right in their hands he actually looks more accurate passer than freeman especially if you can protect him in the pocket he was sacked a lot but it was mostly cause he played for a bad team he would have gotten drafted in the 1st RD if he would have played for a team like Alabama. This is actually the only player I believe can make an impact on our team out of every player we drafted this year especially if Josh chokes this year I would like him to sit back and learn our playbook and hit the gym hard so he can bulk up while Free gets his last chance to prove he should be the Bucs starting QB. You all will love him when he gets his shot to play with our starting offense and he starts winning games for us. Trust me they didn't draft him to backup Josh they drafted him to put him in if Josh starts loosing games with his inaccuracy trust me Schiano didn't like that he didn't have a better option to put in when he kept throwing interceptions. He did the same thing to Blount after he kept fumbling balls he went and drafted martin who replaced him as a starter and eventually sent him packing in a trade don't be surprised if the same thing happens to free if he doesn't stop turning the ball over but at least we should get more than a 7th round pick for him if this is what ends up unfolding in the future and no I don't like the banks pick we should have went DT with Kawan Short to take some of the double teams off of Gerald McCoy. In Schiano's style of defense I see Banks getting burned a lot unless we play Tampa 2 or some type of zone coverage and we don't have the pass rush for that he won't push around elite NFL receivers the way he did in college I see another Myron Lewis Regardless he is a Buc now so I will root for him to succeed like I will for every player on our team Go Bucs
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    I like the pick, just think we could have gotten him in the 4th... or atleast been able to trade down a bit.
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    Rated by who jonnyG? And here I thought you'd be supportive of of the guy who brought you Goldson, Revis and Banks to that dismal secondary. Still not good enough? Maybe Leon Sandcastle?
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    Scu Dominick hit a homerun in the draft last yr and has done well in free agency but this draft sucks so no i will not give him a pass on this draft IT SUCKS!
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    Scu- You told me you didn't want to reach on a guy who was supposed to go late in the first round and get drafted 13th by us but now your like what big board by who? First, everyone's big board had Glennon in the 4th and 5th round like all the other mediocre qb's like Matt barkely etc We over drafted a player by 1 or two rounds Glennon is not very good I have seen his games and No not on youtube on espn. He is a statue in the pocket and is wildly inaccurate, you think Freeman is inaccurate wait till you see Glennon he will make us wish we had Chris Simms back
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    The only thing that will make up for this draft is bringing in john abraham to rush the qb,I demand it as a competant football fan.
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    worst drafting since gruden and allen after having such a great draft last year,I blame this on the influence of eric stokes and his draft for potential instead of production.THIS SUCKS
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    I calmed down overnight and thought this through some more. I fully understand taking another CB and now the DB's are our strength on Defense. I understand why they took a QB with upside and trainable and doesn't have to start this season; or maybe never, but will be our legit back up for years to come. I am thinking that we will probably pick a RB and another OL in this round. I forgot about all the veteran DE's and DT's that were released by teams and maybe we'll bring in a couple of them.
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    Horse- good job! Remember "Trust in Dominick", lol
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    at horse: your statement about the veteran DE/DT chilled by boiling blood :)
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    Bucs Fans crack me up no matter what we did with any pick some will say " trust in Dominick and Schiano" bleh! Don't be "bobbleheads" to whatever the organization does you will save yourself alot of embarrasment with dumb comments like "trust in Dominck". We took a qb who was projected to be a 4th-5th round qb in the 3rd round to compete with Orlovski who is more inaccurate than Freeman and some of you think this was a good move, Give me a break!
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    jongruden: i´m with you. I can´t stand these "just trust" blah. Constructive arguments are good(even if negative, hell coaching is negative, because you got to show what was wrong)
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    The Bucs had to bite the bullet and go for a back up QB. If Josh went down we would be in trouble with Orlovsky. Glennon fits the Bucs offense of verticle passing. As bad as I wanted a DT, I could see why the Bucs took a CB because of a severe lack of death. The Panthers were in a position to go for BIG NASTIES and they got two studs in Star Lotulelei and Kawann Short. They will be a team on the way up and they feel like they owe the Bucs a beat down after last season. The Saints also went for BIG NASTIES. Kenny Vaccaro may not be big, but he is NASTY !!! Jonathan Jenkins will be a beast inside and Terron Armstead will be a star at RT. I was hoping Armstead would fall to the Bucs. From this point on the Bucs need to go for a NT, an RT, a slot receiver, a RB and another CB. The 6th round should provide a very decent RB. I think Nevada's Stefron Jefferson is very under rated. How about USF's Kayvon Webster going in the third round to the Broncos ?
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    @Jrwilson: so the saints and panthers beef up the lines (plus saints taking a speedy run stoper, with good coverage). The bucs counter by: not taking a short/medium pass catcher (slot or TE) and by adding average line man. Now i´m suddenly happy with the QB pick and the average CB in the 2nd.
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    I'm a Bucs fan from Brazil and do not understand that pick, what you guys think about Okafor, DE from Texas? We need add some depth at DL.
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    Good luck, kid.
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    I agree with iabucfan, scubog, and esquandolass4. Everyone take a deep breath. Count to ten. Do whatever it takes to relax. This is not the end of the world. I still trust Schiano until proven wrong.
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    Everyone on here really over plays the nose tackle position. We don't need a stud NT. we just need a plug. That's why we didn't pay miller the money he wanted, because its not a priority position on this defense. DE...yes, we're lacking pass rush, but no one left on the board would have bring constant pressure. Glennon can come in with no pressure and learn. He'll eventually progress thru reads better than #5. He'll have just as big of an arm. It will be an interesting year for #5. It's nice to see that freeman will finally (first time in college and pressure) have someone to look over he's shoulder at. Either he'll step his game up even more or he'll wilt.
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    ehinote a Stud NT is what the Bucs need. You look at the top defenses and they have maulers at NT. The NT who can stop the run and push the pocket back on passing downs are the teams who have the best 3 tech tackles, because the opposing offenses can't devote as much blocking on the 3 tech. We need a guy who can free McCoy up more. The Bucs let Miller go because they thought they needed more of a force at NT. Watch the Panthers and the Saints D-lines in 2013, because both of those teams got real good at NT. Saints stold Johnathan Jenkins in the 3rd round and the Panthers got Star Lotulelei at nose plus Kawann Short. The Panthers interior D-line is going to give Joseph and Nicks fits this season.
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    exactly. plus Freeman has no better options than last year and the running game won´t be as good as last year against these NFC South teams (on paper). How is it possible to still defend those bucs (i would say Shiano) picks?
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    BTW, there will be no contraversy unless the media and fans make it a contraversy. PR has already done their part by stating that this is just competition for Orvlosky. But if the fans keep making a big deal out of this, it'll force the local media to give the people what they want by asking endless questions at press conferences. That's when it becomes a distraction for Freeman and the other players. Let's keep the focus on Revis and whether his first pick of the season will come against Sanchez or Geno Smith!
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    Not totally shocked by this pick. Surprised it came when it did, yes. I asked Scott during the chat if he thought the Bucs would spend one of their 4th rounders on a Q.B., and he said if they did it could be Glennon, he got that right. Coach was true to his word about bringing in competition after all. Before you all jump off a cliff remember what you've heard about the NFL for years, it's a quarterback driven league. If Free goes down our down field passing attack goes with him. Oski can't stretch the field, this kid can. He has one of the best arms in the draft! Don't jump ship over what ya'll think is such a wasted pick.
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    A lot of things to consider with this pick. The initial surprise was negated since my brother texted me and said he thought we would take a QB with this pick. I had my doubts, but at least I was already thinking about it when it happened so the emotional shock that most of you experienced wasn't there for me. On Thursday night I commented that I'm fine with anybody we take so long as we don't trade up since we need so much depth. I still stand by that comment this morning. There were a lot of players that got taken earlier than I thought they would in the 2nd and 3rd round. As I looked at what players were left when the Bucs were on the clock I remember thinking, "Man, who is left to pick that I want"? Damontre Moore? His personality sucks and he's "playa" instead of a "player" to quote Gruden. Hearing his interviews I know he wouldn't have fit in our locker room. Terrance Williams? Maybe, but he doesn't seem like a good slot guy which is where he would play for us. He doesn't get good seperation. I'd rather give Mike Williams his new contract than to draft T. Williams to play on the outside. Sam Montgomery? I like him, but at a 4th round value. If Glennon is the same player as Freeman I'd rather have him step in if Freeman gets hurt and we're in the middle of he playoff hunt than have Montgomery step in at DE. We still have Teo'Neshiem who is just as good as Montgomery. Like it or not, Glennon was the best player available...unfortunately.
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    Perfect evaluation pinkstob. I will admit, I woke up this morning still not excited about this pick, but after watching Glennon throw the ball and the fact that he has a quick release for such a big kid ( I believe he's taller than freeman), as well as watching him on grudens qb camp, I'm on board with this and I'm excited in this sense: I've supported freeman and I still do, but now he's got to put it together. We need to get to the playoffs. I still believe that Freeman's our guy, but hey, competition never hurt anyone. I do not believe this is a move saying were giving up on freeman, but it's time to get us to the playoffs.
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    esquandolas4 and scubog, Thank you! Thank you for being sensible about this. Glennon chased Russell Wilson out of NCST. So, he must have some ability.Dominik and Schiano have a plan, for crying out loud. It will be fine. The Buccaneers are a good, dangerous team. It will be fine.
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    Russel left because Wisconsin put him in a better position to shine, not because Glennon was sooo good
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    We don't even have a starting DT to go next to McCoy. The worst pass rush in the League wasn't important enough to address in the first three picks.? It is not a stretch to say that picking a QB at the 3rd round when you have already essentially picked two defensive backs is just crazy. No matter how good our secondary is without a pass rush they will be toast. If Bucs are able to find a few diamonds in the rough in the 4th round good for them, but if not we are going to be starting a mid round pick that will be lucky to just make the team.
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    If you trade for Revis, you are trying to win now. We could have waited until the 5th round to get a backup QB, and we probably could have gotten the same guy. I don't know what we are trying to do, but we still have holes at DE, DT, SLB, ORT, TE. I wouldn't mind C either, and a 3rd WR too. Instead we went with a SF. Too bad we aren't playing basketball.
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    artpac: i fully agree. Making a win-now move and then getting nothing to help Freeman (who clearly needs some more weapons, Slot, or TE) instead wasting a pick on a QB, who´s the same we already got (but younger, and with less experience). And there was good talent at positons of need. Just stupid drafting... (i don´t see Banks as being much better than that Johnson CB on our Roster)
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    Thank you esquandolas4 for bringing a little sense to the Pouter Report comments section. While I was a little surprised by Dominik selecting a QB a round earlier than I anticipated, I totally understand the logic. For years the great personnel man Ron Wolf would draft QB's to develop and trade them like we have seen so often. We even did it ourselves with Craig Erikson. As Scott pointed out, Glennon will be groomed as Freeman's back-up. I know I wasn't looking forward to the day when # 5 gets hurt and Dan Orlovsky is trotting onto the field. There will be no "QB controversy" resulting from this choice as long as Josh plays like he did last season (except the Saints and Rams games). Funny how many of us think a pick is "wasted" if it's not filling in a piece to the puzzle (roster). I believe the term is "depth". As I recall, last season many bemoaned the selection of some guy named Doug Martin because we didn't need a RB when we had Blount. "Wasted pick some said. As Flip Wilson would say "you ugly people know who you are".
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    This comment section is hilarious. Everyone freaking out over our 3rd round selection because we took a qb instead of a dt or whatever you wanted. All the message board GMs need to take a step back and realize that Dom and Schiano have a plan and have been doing nothing but sticking to it. We landed Goldson, we landed Darrelle God damn Revis, and we just got another corner who won the Thorpe award might I add. No one on this board should be complaining about anything right now. We are a dangerous team right now should all the parts fit together. I understand we need to address a few holes on our team but every team has a few non all-pros, we'll be fine. Let's have some faith and enjoy the show that is about to be the 2013 Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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    A quarterback.....a quarterback? I am totally disgusted with this pick. I could understand the CB in round 2, but would rather have gotten a DT, but then a QB? We need a QB like a hole in the head. Draft grade FFFFFF MINUS. Did they take a stupid pill this morning?
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    This is definitely a head scratcher. What are we doing wasting a third round pick on a position that is so weak in this draft ? With so many needs at DE, DT and LB we pick a QB who is going to compete for #2 and is compared to Chis Sims ? We might as well ask Trent Dilfer to come out of retirement. Dominic wows by getting the best Corner in the league with our first and then picks a QB that is at best a 5th or 6th round pick. I think Dominic is a much better personel guy than most do but getting a DT or DE now is going to be slim pickings. We have no pass rush and we will continue to struggle unless this line vastly improves.
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    we should feel sorry for Eric Stokes, and fire Shiano now.. Let Butch Davis coach a year and start searching for a coach the next year. Or promote Sullivan (remember how he wanted to get away in the offseason? leaving for HC job? Lets give him one here and get rid of Shiano as fast as possible (before he ruins the last picks we still got)
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    Absurd... baffled by this. Totally baffled. A QB with the exact issues our current QB has with so many holes to fill? We just gave a third round pick to tell our current QB to wake up. This is a poker play all the way on Dominic and Shianos part. This kid won't be anything in the NFL, he couldn't even a win at the college level as his best games came in defeat. I feel totally let down by this pick.
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    @bEubanks11: so do I and this is what many others have warned us about: Shiano.. Bucs should get rid of him NOW, and promote Sullivan. There´s a reason he was willing to go out after one year.. We should promote him to HC!
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    Start to hate Shiano bucs fans? He clearly wanted these first two picks (has connections to Banks coach and wanted to recruit this QB). We should have packed whatever it would have cost to get another early 2nd rounder: could have picked up Zach Ertz and a D-liner and would have picks left to get another d-liner. Instead, now we are left with holes at: TE, slot WR (not big concern so far), 2nd HB, DE, DT, LB. with the Revis trade and those wasted picks (Banks realy isn´t good cover Corner, he just has ball skills) all we have is cap space and draft picks left, to get practice squad caliber talent. Thanks to the "rockstar" and this stone head Shiano. i realy liked him at the beginning, but now it´s clear: He is a small conference coach, and not a genius ala Sean Peyton or Dick Lebeau (this Steelers coordinater i mean)... Damn the bucs are stuck as a punching ball in this league, not a competitior by any means...
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    Can anyone say "Chris Simms" ? Tall skinny guy who can launch the ball 65 yds, BIG DEAL! This guy is very inaccurate and we drafted him 3rd round? Very disgusting! Did we ask Buffalo on how to waste a pick on a qb? We should get this kid the #2 Jersey asap! I thought I was pissed when we didn't get Kawann Short then we waste this pick uggh, I hope I can just see the Bucs accidently draft a decent player in round 4th sigh.
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    Glennon and Simms are completely different types of QBs. He'll put pressure on freeman in practices when he throws some lasers. Freeman needs that competition.
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    maybe the plan is to have glennon sit ,watch, and learn to adjust to the speed of the nfl. learn the offense also, then when freeman starts trowing I nts he comes in and runs with it. freeman will probably be good possibly get a pro bowl birth, and now im thinking playoffs. after the season he gets franchised to see if he can do it again in the meantime the bucs go and sign mike Williams to a long term deal. with banks, goldson, revis we gonna have a top 15 d.well there are brighter days ahead in a bucs life. I hope we get that lb greene from Rutgers and a big NT to plug that hole. IMO after all the picks are set and done go back and watch film on all our pickz and take a closer look smoke a joint or sumthin.
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    It's impossible to overstate how much I hate this pick. First d-linemen Moore and Montgomery were still there. Second this guy is another Freeman, very inaccurate. My respect for Dominick and Schiano s dropping like a stone.
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    Let me ask you guys this.,,,,are we just completely abandoning the TE position? I know we need DTs, LBs, and I think another RB wouldn't hurt, but what's the deal? We need a tall, agile TE to complement this offense as well!! Thoughts???
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    Totally SHOCKED by this pick!!!! Like so many of you have said, we are in horrible need for another solid DT and ILB..for starters! I was really hoping the Bucs were going to trade up to get Arthur Brown. And by the way, I wouldn't drop all the blame on Shiano here. If you don't think Mike Sullivan had input on this you're crazy! Go Bucs Let's Do It This Year!!!!
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    WTH I hate this pick for so many reasons. DT and DE are in need of depth as well as rt and Sam etc etc but most of all this a clear schiano pick that irritates the heck out of me. I thought he was over the Rutgers mindset and into the nfl where Jerry Reece stocks up on dlinemen and has Carr as a back up. Worst of all, all of the positive feelings latetly have now been tarnished with possible qb controversy and make Pete Prisco sound right about the rift between schiano and free. For gosh sake, our offense was number nine overall it's schianos specialty defense that lost games and in a prime spot to grab some more d help he goes and gets a dumb@#% QB way before he needed to for a supposed back up. Give the reigns back to Dom schiano you don't know what you're doing. Maybe well get some more Rutgers and West Virginia kids to round out the draft. Yay
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    They have Jenkins the most dominating two down lineman at the senior bowl in the third round ready to make Bowers,McCoy and company substantially better , but we get a Chucky and Bruce Allen Children's Game being played ,Eric Stokes is not going to sleep tonight.Personally the Miami of Ohio Qb is better and I'm hoping they sign S Elllis or they have just thrown a batch of dung in the air and walked under it and caught every last ounce.We could have kept R Miller for Appx 2 mil and this is your plan to help the other three def lineman excell, well you have a Revis brain damage condition!! Walk and chew gum !! You can decrease our three youg semi stud DL sack numbers 25 percent and Clays TFL by the same because of this lame brain widget move. Qb is the most important position times three but if this is your thinking you have gone to Free agency a year too Early.The bucs have to have a Nose Tackle and aTE to get 10or11 wins not a 58 percent college completion guy.I do like the Banks pick but would have taken Jenkins or Short given the Qb pick at least as far as winning this year.Btw I think Ellis's numbers are better than our 11 mil pro bowler.Well we have two fourths and now Stokes can start to have a say. Better get a returner and back up Doug!! New Qb Is he 6 7 and if ? Has there ever been a successful Qb over 6 5 I doubt it Nfl pockets are too small as the lineman are too tall to have a release pointe above them even at 6 7 so your real ease pointe / follow thrugh has to be between the pads and helmets with the ability to see over .This is why BigBen is more effective and more accurate as well as 6 4 freeman after the play has broken down, duh they can step up and get proper form.Free throws off his back foot because of his length and ill confidence of follow through in the pocket area, but oh don't run, it's not running its getting room to throw with a good follow through!! Come On Man!! Go Bucs !!
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    It's a reach in the 3rd round when you have bigger needs if this is just a Back Up competition; of course it isn't. Is Glennon worth the pick when we have no starting DT on the right side? Is he a better choice than another back up for OT, LB, DE, DT, TE? Why on earth in the third round to you grab a 5th or 6th round pick? Why do we want to draft another inconsistent QB? Oh yes let's say the big word; potential.
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    Horse right on!
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    This pick IS wasted. Many holes could have been filled by this draft, instead, we are now left with many holes and can fill them with practice squad talent, because big "Rockstar-GM" shoot all money in one CB.. yeah super contract, we can cut him without paying him AND without the lost 1st round pick of 2013..... Bucs and playoffs.. i mean ... PLAYOFFS?! this team is just there, so the league has 32 teams... they play for nothing
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    A threat to Orlovsky? You can't threaten a QB for no playing time! This may be a good move on its face, but if you take the names away and read the pluses and minuses of Freeman and Glennon, they sound like the same guy. I know the definition for competition and more importantly, I know it when I see it. This pick assures us that if we don't like this inconsistent QB with a big arm , don't worry because we can put in another one that is inconsistent with a big arm. For a coach that does not like controversy, he's got one now whether intended or not. Schiano may have just made the smartest move in Buc history or walked out on the proverbial pirate ship plank. This will be interesting. One thing you can count on, the conversation about Revis will now be page 2. Can't wait for the next press conference!
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    Well said!
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    They didn't draft glennon just to compete with orlovsky. An NFL team doesn't draft anyone in the 3rd round just to be a backup.  He is our contingency plan. I do like his look in the pocket. He stands tall with quick feet in the pocket. He gets his body in good position to throw. Now...not sure how that will translate to the NFL where QBs have to make a lot more throws from different arm angles and feet placement, but Freeman still has problems with that and he's going into his 5th season. I liked dilfer's comment about him coming from a progression executed offense. Freeman did not and we can still tell from his problems. When watching him he most resembles P. Manning. Not saying at all that he will be anything close to Peyton, but he most resembles him. 
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    @Deacon Blues. You're right you can't tell what QBs will make it. But I can still say "Horrible Pick Bucs, just plain HORRIBLE" Couldn't wait till the 6th round to get him? I just love spending a high 3rd round pick on a guy who might compete for the backup QB job? Are you freakin' kidding me? Coach Schiano is back at Rutgers getting a guy that turned him down in High School. Great move.
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    Before all the whiners and armchair scouts start posting, I'm not a fan of this pick. But everyone who posts that its a waste knows nothing. You never know what QBs will make it. You can't win the lottery unless you play. See Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, Tom Brady. Sometimes you get lucky. I believe you should grab a QB as often as possible. Eventually you will hit it.
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    Nice try but you have to remember the opportunity cost of this pick. We passed on two very good d-linemen to take a chance on this guy. Terrible move!
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    he is not going to play this year Deacon, so I totally disagree with you, it is a total waste, plus a total reach in the 3rd. Yeah he could be good eventually, or he could make Ryan Leaf look like Joe Montana. This sucks period.
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