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October 14, 2013 @ 7:54 am
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After Disappointing 0-5 Start, The Bucs Need To Fire Schiano

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With the worst offense in the NFL, and a defense that gets out-gunned in the second half of games, the Buccaneers are 0-5 in 2013 and have lost 10 of their last 11 games under head coach Greg Schiano. It's time for the Glazers to fire Schiano and insert Dave Wannstedt as the interim head coach.
Not only does Tampa Bay have a staph infection, it has a staff infection.

With Sunday’s 31-20 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, the Buccaneers have not only started off the 2013 season with a very surprising and disappointing 0-5 record, the team is now 1-10 in their last 11 games under head coach Greg Schiano and there have been very few signs of sustainable progress.

It’s time for the Buccaneers to fire Schiano. It’s time for the Glazers to step in right now, this week, and relieve him of his duties in a message that would tell the players, the remaining coaches and the fans, who pay good money to attend the games, as well as those who watch the team in frustration each week on television that losing 10 out of the last 11 games is unacceptable, and that they won’t stand for it.

Isn’t that what they essentially told the fans when they fired Raheem Morris before hiring Schiano? Didn’t the Glazers say that the environment at One Buccaneer Place had gotten “stale” following the 2008 season under Jon Gruden? Those back-to-back seasons of 9-7 records that Gruden produced probably sound really good to Buccaneers fans right now.

MRSA isn’t the only thing that has afflicted the Buccaneers this season. Losing has also infected One Buccaneer Place, unfortunately.

Sunday’s announced attendance at Raymond James Stadium was 62,505 thanks to close to 20,000 dedicated Eagles fans that showed up. The crowd of actual Bucs fans on Sunday was probably closer to the 44,954 that showed up for the Cardinals contest, a game that made it look like Raymond James Stadium was somehow hosting a fifth preseason affair.

At the end of Sunday’s game against Philadelphia, boos and profanities from hurt and angry Bucs fans rained down on Schiano as he ran into the tunnel. It was an ugly scene. It was just as ugly as Tampa Bay fans watching their team blow a halftime lead for the second straight home game against a beatable opponent with Schiano at the helm.

The Glazers need to fire Schiano and tell the fans that help is on the way. Special teams coordinator Dave Wannstedt, a former NFL head coach in Chicago and Miami, should be inserted as Tampa Bay’s interim head coach immediately and be given a chance to turn the team around. Should he prove to be successful in that endeavor, he would be given the chance to interview with other candidates for the head coaching position in the offseason.

With Sunday’s defeat, Schiano’s record in Tampa Bay falls to 7-14, and after a once promising 6-4 start to the 2012 season, his overall record shows that he’s now lost twice as many games as he has won since he took over for Morris in January last year. Morris was fired after losing the final 10 games of the 2011 campaign to finish 4-12.

The Bucs’ only win in their last 11 games was a shocking upset of the NFC-leading Falcons in Atlanta to end the 2012 campaign and halt the Bucs’ five-game losing streak. To their credit, Schiano’s Buccaneers scored an impressive road victory to end the season 7-9.

The reality is that the Falcons had already clinched home-field advantage throughout the playoffs by Week 17 and didn’t play up to their potential that day, probably assuming they could simply show up and win against a 6-9 Bucs team.

Ironically this week the Bucs return to the scene of their last victory – Atlanta – to face an injury-ravaged 1-4 team that is just as disappointing as Tampa Bay. The Bucs won’t be considered favorites for that game, nor should they be.

There’s a good chance Schiano and his legion of assistant coaches won’t be able to find a way to win that game because they haven’t been able to find a way to win 10 out of their last 11 games.

Come to think of it, when is Tampa Bay’s first win of the season going to come? Look at the schedule and try to find it. Going 0-16 is not out of the question because the Raiders and Jaguars aren’t on the schedule, unfortunately.

The Bucs failed to beat a 1-2 Arizona team that was without six starters on defense in the fourth quarter, including three of its four linebackers. Philadelphia was 2-3 and without its starting quarterback, Michael Vick. In two wins over the Buccaneers the past two years, Nick Foles, a backup quarterback, has thrown for 677 yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions and rushed for two more scores.

The Buccaneers offense remains a mess – even with a quarterback change from the disappointing Josh Freeman to rookie Mike Glennon. While the Bucs scored a season-high 20 points on Sunday, the Eagles defense was statistically one of the worst defenses in the league, and Tampa Bay needed to score more than that.

Yet with two weeks to prepare for Philadelphia, that’s all offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan and his troops could muster. That’s no surprise for an offense that has not scored more than 23 points in its last 10 games. In fact, the Bucs are the only team in the NFL to not have thrown for 1,000 yards yet, and have managed just 57 points on offense in five games, which is easily the lowest in the NFL.

Tampa Bay’s defense, which has been the team’s strength this season under Schiano, surrendered 31 points to a team that came in averaging only 27. The Bucs have three Pro Bowlers on defense in cornerback Darrelle Revis, free safety Dashon Goldson and defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, as well as young, up-and-coming stars in weakside linebacker Lavonte David, middle linebacker Mason Foster, defensive end Adrian Clayborn and strong safety Mark Barron. With those very good players and two weeks to prepare for Philadelphia’s offense, giving up 31 points, including 17 in the second half, is unacceptable.

Schiano and his staff struggle mightily with making second-half adjustments and are routinely outcoached.

Looking at Sunday’s game, how do you scheme to have David, Goldson and Barron cover DeSean Jackson, the Eagles’ fastest player, in coverage? In the fourth quarter, Jackson lined up in the slot in front of David, who inexplicably gave the receiver a free release off the line, and stayed underneath in coverage. With a free release, Jackson then made a bee line for Goldson near the 5-yard line and then took a sharp left, and beat Barron to the ball in the back of the end zone for a very easy and decisive 36-yard touchdown pass that gave the Eagles a 28-20 lead with 9:32 left in regulation.

Why not at least try to put Revis, the team’s best cover corner, on Jackson, who scored two touchdowns, all day and help over the top with a safety?

The Bucs came into Sunday’s game getting outscored 31-10 in the second half this year. After the Philadelphia game, Tampa Bay has now been outscored 48-13 after halftime. That’s unacceptable, and a clear sign that this former head coach at Rutgers is in over his head in the NFL.

It’s time to remove Schiano, who was supposed to bring discipline to an undisciplined team. Instead the Buccaneers, which are run by a “toes on the line” coach, routinely commit more penalties than the other team and make too many mistakes to win close games.

On Sunday, a costly neutral zone infraction on fourth-and-1 negated a 6-yard sack by free safety Dashon Goldson and took away a turnover on downs opportunity by Tampa Bay’s defense. The Bucs, who committed eight penalties for 72 yards against the Eagles, would have had the ball at their own 23-yard line down by eight points with 2:58 left and all three timeouts.

Instead, that penalty allowed the Eagles to run more time off the clock and force the Bucs to burn all three timeouts before kicking a field goal to give Philadelphia a decisive, 11-point lead.

“I believe it is a well-coached football team, but not well enough,” Schiano admitted following Sunday’s loss to the Eagles when asked if the Bucs were well coached. “There are certain things that we have to get done consistently. We’ll get ‘this’ done in one game and we’ll get ‘this’ in another game, but we’re not getting it all together. That may frustrate some, but I’d tell you if I didn’t think we were doing a good job. We need to be better – it starts with me, it goes through all my assistant coaches and then through every player on the team. Again, we’ll get over this hump and we’ll get through it and we’ll start winning.”

That’s doubtful. The Bucs desperately wanted to hire a disciplinarian after the loose ways of Morris caused this team to lose the final 10 games in 2011, but they should have found a proven winner in their coaching search instead. Schiano complied a record of just 68-67 at Rutgers, and didn’t win the hapless Big East Conference once in his 11 years with the Scarlet Knights.

Set aside the MRSA distraction and all of the drama and negative news coming from Schiano’s handling of Freeman and whether or not Schiano was the source of leaking confidential medical information as USA Today is reporting. Going 1-10 in the last 11 games is a fireable offense by itself, and reason enough to remove him as head coach.

Schiano actually had the nerve to tell luxury suite holders a few weeks ago that before he came to Tampa Bay the Buccaneers were the “laughingstock of the NFL.” He later apologized if he offended anyone, as he was merely referring to the team’s lack of discipline under Morris.

After a 0-5 start to a once promising 2013 campaign, losing 10 of the last 11 games, and with all of the embarrassing national headlines surrounding Schiano this year from potentially rigged captaincy votes, to being the supposed reason behind players-only meetings, to the benching and release of the team’s starting quarterback to the NFLPA investigating Schiano and the Bucs for possibly releasing confidential health information, it seems like Tampa Bay is still the laughingstock of the NFL under this guy.

“We’re a competitive franchise that’s been on the short end of the stick too many times here, so we need to get on the right end of the stick,” Schiano said after Sunday’s loss to Philadelphia. “We’ve got to play our way and coach our way out of it one day at a time, one meeting at a time, one practice at a time, one walkthrough at a time. That’s how you do it. There’s no magical answer.

“You get better by doing all the things that football teams do and coaches do. You stand to your convictions without being stubborn and you move forward. We’ve got a good group of people in that locker room, and coaches, and they’re going to stick together, and we’re going to get it turned.”

Morris won 10 games in 2010 with a far-less talented Buccaneers team. The Glazers hardly spent a dime in free agency until Schiano arrived in 2012, and what has he done? Schiano has essentially wasted their money by squandering so much talent with a 0-5 start. He deserves to be fired.

Bucs legendary defensive back Ronde Barber, who still has many friends and confidants on the team, works for Fox Sports and indicated that Schiano has lost the locker room. Tampa Bay’s Hall of Fame defensive tackle Warren Sapp, who works for NFL Network and is in regular contact with a few Bucs players, suggests that Schiano’s rigid, “my way or the highway” isn’t working.

The players won’t come out and publicly criticize Schiano because they are afraid to, but off the record they grumble about his approach, coaching methods and results. The players have seen Schiano cut a starting free safety in Tanard Jackson and a starting defensive tackle in Brian Price. They have seen Schiano trade a starting tight end in Kellen Winslow and a starting cornerback in Aqib Talib. They have seen Schiano used a scorched earth approach to bench and cut Freeman, the team’s starting quarterback, who was in a contract year. The players know there are no sacred cows at One Buccaneer Place as long as the iron-fisted Schiano is at the helm.

The assumption here is that with the micro-managing Schiano gone, and a more player-friendly coach like Wannstedt inserted to loosen up the tightly wound environment at One Buccaneer Place, that the Bucs players would have less anxiety and could perform better on Sundays, especially in crunch time when Tampa Bay seems to be at its worst.

The Bucs are 3-8 in games decided by a touchdown or less under Schiano.

Hope is on the horizon. The Kansas City Chiefs were 2-14 last year, including a 38-10 loss at the hands of Tampa Bay, yet had six Pro Bowl players. All it essentially took was a new quarterback, and a head coach – a proven winner in the NFL in Andy Reid – and the Chiefs have raced out to a 6-0 start in 2013 with virtually the same roster.

At the rate the Buccaneers are going, they will be in prime position to select one of the elite quarterbacks in the 2014 NFL Draft with a very high first-round pick if Glennon shows that he can’t get the job done. Now all Tampa Bay needs is a proven coach capable of winning in the NFL, and one capable of successfully managing and developing a franchise quarterback.

That’s something Schiano has proven he can’t do. The Bucs can’t afford to let him be in charge of picking their next quarterback.

With the 2013 campaign already lost due to a 0-5 record, the Glazers need to fire Schiano now, attempt to win back a fan base that is turning away from the franchise, and start working on the 2014 season right away.

Last modified on Monday, 14 October 2013 09:35
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    It's not the five games from this season......it's the ten of the last eleven. In 1996 the team ran off a few early losses, but it was easy yo see that Dungy's team was improving and closed the season strong. Anyone see that on the horizon in 2013? In Dungy's second season 1997, the team was becoming a force. Anyone see that now? Didn't think so. And that, BF47 was with Trent Dilfer.
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    @scubog: Exactly right. IMO, the optimist sees us winning 4 games this year, the realist sees us winning 2, the pessimist sees us winning 0.
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    Wanstedt is a good interim choice. I never thought we would get more than 8 wins this year, but at this point getting more than 4 will be a miracle. We have talent on this team, but it is bring wasted.
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    Warren...what shocks me is that we haven't had media types point out Doms ineffectiveness and that he needs to go as well. Kind of reminds me of a scene from "the Godfather", when Sollozo says "Dom...I want access to those media types...those that you carry in your pocket......like so many nickles and dimes". Time to go to the mattresses, boys.
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    @mark21: excellent analogy!
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    Now? You write this article now? ------ After (unbelievably STILL) defending Raheem who so clearly lacked both the experience and intellect to even be a coordinator much less a head coach. ----- After (unbelievably STILL) being a Freeman apologist. Despite his obvious struggles with basic fundamentals such as working thru progressions and accuracy ----- After (unbelievably STILL) being supportive of Dom despite there being no indication he is qualified to be any more than a capologist ---- You have officially lost me with this article, but I'm hoping you will win me back. Perhaps it's not relationships getting in the way but business economics instead, but whatever it is I hope you find the path back to providing objective, professional analysis and insight about the team we all care so much about.
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    Firing Schiano is not the way to go. It sends the wrong message to future coaching candidates for us. It's been bad but we're only 5 games deep. That's way to short of a leash.
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    Glad to see so many fans understanding Dom deserves to go as well as the coach. He's missed on 2 coaches now. Bucs record is 24-45 during his term. Where are Stocker, Lewis, Benn, Freeman now? He overpaid for free agents & trades to win now when there were too many holes that still needed filling. He picked a couple of good players in the 1st 3 rounds of the last couple of years, but Mel Kiper & most posters here could have done that. How many players are even still here from rounds 4 - 7 the past 5 years? How many good undrafted FAs were picked up? How many pro FAs were acquired that are really making a difference? Yes, many current problems are attributed to genuinely pitiful coaching, but Dom has to take responsibility for his mistakes too..
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    New poll on firing Schiano please.
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    This is my favorite article.
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    take the pewter glasses off dom must go too, he is part of the problem, as buc fans everyones expectations were too high this team really is not that good oline sucks period over paid, hyped and always hurt . no real speed on offense, all our receivers more possession type. still no not enough qb pressure dom and mafia leave and no qb still I thought that's why chucky was ran out of town, man I wish he would come back, they should have given his job to rich, you see his special teams for dallas sun
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    I don't think we have anyone on the current staff that could be Head Coach. Dave W is just not what we need, not another Eastern College coach please. I really don't know what to do but I do know this can not continue as is. Even my WIFE...who never says much about football...is like this guy has to go. Tough times to be a BUCS fan in the middle of Titans, Colts, Bengals and Rams territory. The looks they give me are just way to hard to take. GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Caption for the photo: "Are you a Schiano Man? I've got my eye on you!"
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    I agree, fire Schiano. What makes me the most angry is the misuse of players. We get the best CB in football. A guy that can shut down a receiver and rather than let him do that we play zone. Not just any zone but a badly designed zone that gets picked apart. Enough already.
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    You know, we're actually worse than the laughing stock of the league. We've been that before. Now, you get the sense that NFL folks and broadcasters specifically go out of their way not to talk about the Bucs, because it's like talking badly about the one kid in the class who can't read and whose parents feed him Cool Aid and Twinkies for breakfast. It's just sad, embarrassing and cruel to discuss at all. This is worse than '76-'77 because there are really no excuses for it. I think I was the first on this site to call for Wanstadt to immediately replace our "Sopranos Head Coach" so i'm pumped to get PR behind that plan. No reason to wait.
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    Firing Schiano now would be like firing 0-5 Dungy because Mike Shula's offenses sucked. Would have been a big mistake. Have patience Twinkie/Koolaid guy. Rome wasn't built in a day or even a year.
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    With so much fan and media unrest it's hard to predict what the Glazers will do in the short term. In the long term I think this is the beginning of the end for Schiano and perhaps even Mark Dominik. The Glazer boys must realize that if the team continues to lose the fans will go from disenchanted to disconnected, from angry to apathetic. Allowing this situation to fester much longer will make the fans think, "If the Glazers don't care, why should I?" They have always been private people. They are methodical in their decision making. They have invested millions to bring in free agents with nothing to show for it. At least firing Schiano now will send a message to Buc Nation that they want the laughing to stop too. Heck, they could hire any of us to be interim head coach and do as well as Schiano has the past 11 games.
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    1) Keep Schiano. 2) Get high draft pick. 3) Fire Schiano. It's nothing personal. The guy tried, I don't dislike him. But... 11 more games.
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    Schiano is our Mike Singletary, except Mike was a classy likeable guy with street cred. 49ers changed coaches and Lo and behold we saw they actually had a very good team hiding under a poor coach. Unfortunately Schiano has been allowed to do a lot more damage by running Josh out of town. Poor Glennon has a long way to go, and nobody on the staff to coach him up with McNulty. Get rid of this cancer in the locker room. He Josh McDanieled the locker room. Get rid go the incompetent second tier college coach now , let wannestedt coach out the year, let the players know the owners are behind them and will work to find someone competent to repair this team come spring !
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    10 reasons that Schiano should finish out the year. 1. For prospective future HC's they need to see that you get at least 2 years to make it or break it. If the firing is a good idea, we will know better at the end of the year, and have plenty of time to do it properly. 2. We all thought Freeman had to go. Schiano had the guts to get rud of him. He gets credit for that in my book. 3. Maybe our "all pro" offensive line will start playing like an "all pro" offensive line, rather than just being offensive. 4. We need to see what Glennon can do without a coaching change, so we know what to do at that position going forward. 5. Interim HC's are a bad idea. And there's a reason why Wannstadt and Davis were / are available, and it is not good. 6. The team is still playing hard, with emotion, trying to win. 7. More than once, our local media has convinced the fan base to run people out of town. Gruden is a good example. Talib is a good example. We should be careful about jumping on the bandwagon. 8. Schiano really annoys the "Big Dog", basically ignoring him. That in itself is entertaining to me. 9. Schiano is not from Kansas. 10. O.K., so I could only think of 9 reasons.............
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    Scott I hope I never squander in front of your articulate @$$!! Ouch, and I agree with every word
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    BuccanAY...well said. I don't know if it is the relationship Dom has with the local media or whatever it is, but in any other town, his job performance would have to rate somewhere between a C- and a D-. He must be the Teflon GM. Of course, every home town fan thinks their team is more talented than it is, but you hit it on the head. Look at an average NFL O line, and tell me how this high priced line is better with better prospects for the future. Nicks toe will likely never be right. Joseph is approaching 30 and is continually hurt. Penn is an enigma. Zuttah is good. But really, what is the hope for the future across that line. And look at the money spent on that line compared to other average or below average producing lines. We could break down the rest of the team, but really....Dom needs to go too. If I was the Glazers, this is how I would play it....get the best GM you can find, and have him find a Vet coach with a solid reputation. I think Dom liked to experiment...to find diamonds in the rough...practice squad players and coaches. We also need a different approach and someone that has a better grasp of player talent and how they would fit in the new coaches system.
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    Actually this is what Ronde said....... Here were Ronde Barber’s words via the NFL pregame show on FOX: The best thing that they did was release Josh. Somehow, someway that situation had to end. It had gotten toxic from both sides. Josh was manipulating, everybody felt like coach was manipulating, but I don’t feel like Greg (Schiano) was that kind of guy. Greg wants what’s best for this...
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    After about SEVEN years of rebuilding we have a team that has no depth. IMO, that falls under the GM. with all of the failed draft picks ( way to many to name) and scrap heap players we are no further along than we were when we fired Gruden. It's time to start over! We need a new GM and HC. With that being said, we can't wait until after all the good HC's are gone before we start looking like we did with Schiano. They need to fire Dominik like NOW and get a real GM so he can plan for 2014 with a NEW HC and a top two pick.
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    Wow, is this mob psychology? Just who is going to take this job in the middle of the season? Dave Wannstadt! Are you on crack? He has been a loser at every NFL team he was the head coach of!! If he is such a great coach, why is he only a special teams coach? I would take Chucky, but he is making too much easy money.
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    Wannstedt won division titles at Miami and Chicago and defeated the Colts and Payton Manning in the playoffs with Jay Fiedler as his QB. He has won three division championships and had six winning seasons in his 12 season as a NFL coach. His overall record was 82-87 which is mediocre but hell of a lot better than Greg Schiano and his 7-14 record.
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    SR, I totally agree with your assessment of Shiano, and his inability to get the job done, agree with everything you say, EXCEPT. Where's the accountability for Mark Dominik in all this!?! I know he's a Kansas guy, and you are most certainly closer to him than Shiano, but I hope you are taking the same hard look at Dominik as you are with Shiano. IMO, Dominik needs to be right behind Shiano, on the way out. I could go on and on about bad drafts, and yes he's made a few big FA signings, but many would argue, are overpaid. Dominik is in WAY over his head, just like Shiano is. It almost appears as if Dominik's defense is, "he(Shiano) made me do it". He seems like like powerless puppet, in all honesty, and he's got to be held accountable just as Shiano is. Dominiks had many years to get this thing right, and its far from it. Overpaying FA's is not all there is to being a winning GM. He's gotta go, just as fast as Shiano!
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    The story nobody's writing about is how the Bucs have builit a team predicated on a small number of highly paid free agents and high draft picks who are not producing surrounded by lower paid rookies and journeymen. Freeman - Gone, Nicks - Hobbled, Joseph - Hobbled, Goldson - Confused, Williams - Hurt, Bowers - Ineffective, Clayborn - Adequate. Dominik went for star signings rather than builiding a team with less expensive building blocks and, other than 2012, failed in his previous drafts excluding getting McCoy correct as the third pick in the draft. The "stars" are either hurt or ineffective so team can't perform. Now that the expirement has blown up, everybody wants to crucify the coach!
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    Great analysis there - I don't think we're very strong up there in player personnel. You can throw a ton of money at players, but having the right fit and the right system is more important. We saw that with Spurrier and Snyder.
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    mark2001: John McKay, Rich McKay and Tony Dungy.

    BTW all of them would have loved to have had a QB as good as Freeman was. Dom puts the team together and the team has plenty of talent, thus the reason people are calling for Schiano to be ran out of town. If Schiano had the talent that Ray Perkins had, that Leeman Bennett had then he'd get more of a pass. Dom hasn't been A material but he's not the issue here. Most likely he'll get the boot when a new coach comes in next year, but honestly I don't care if he stays or go. His job is to sign and draft players and everyone agrees this is a talented team, the problem is with the worthless piece of garbage running the team, Schiano.
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    In the history of this team, we have had one excellent GM and two excellent coaches. You know who they are. Time to find another of both.
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    mark2001: John McKay, Rich McKay and Tony Dungy. BTW all of them would have loved to have had a QB as good as Freeman was. Dom puts the team together and the team has plenty of talent, thus the reason people are calling for Schiano to be ran out of town. If Schiano had the talent that Ray Perkins had, that Leeman Bennett had then he'd get more of a pass. Dom hasn't been A material but he's not the issue here. Most likely he'll get the boot when a new coach comes in next year, but honestly I don't care if he stays or go. His job is to sign and draft players and everyone agrees this is a talented team, the problem is with the worthless piece of garbage running the team, Schiano.
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    Scott....don't disagree about Shiano...but why the free pass for Dom.? We see continually poor personnel decisions, regarding drafts, FA's, Coaches. Most of our guys that have been "pro bowl" guys are on the downside. We stuck with Josh for how many years? If Dom stays, forget the next few years. No experienced HC will fall under his authority. And as far as his reputation around the league...sure, reminds me of my company when we would talk so well about one the competitors bosses because as long as he was at the helm, we knew our competitors would be hamstrung and we would have our way in the marketplace. Come on Scott...where is the Dom. article.
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    Scott, this is your best article ever! Wannstedt coached outstanding teams at Pitt, and has done an outstanding job with our Special Teams this year. When he had the Dolphins he did not have the super talent DOM has assembled here. I know he knows all the ins and outs of being a head NFL Coach. I am for giving him a shot at interim Coach and let him show what he can do. His advantage is he knows our players already and they like and respect him. Let Wannstadt decide if he wants to keep Sully or not. Sully did a super job at the Giants as the QB Coach and was the key to getting them to the Super Bowl. Look at where the Giants are now without him. I believe he is now being micromanaged by Schiano. You may see a whole different Sully when he is under Wannstedt. On Defense Butch Davis is an expert who coached the U in Miami when they were world beaters. He knows the Pro Game too. You won't see him playing the Prevent Defense when he replaces Loser Sherman who was a one man fiasco as the Giants' Defensive Line Coach and would never have been chosen as a DC for any team--which Schiano knew when he picked him knowing he would never complain that Schiano was trying to run his Rutger's Defense in the Pros which took us to the bottom of the stats last year. Schiano does give Circuses a bad name and has ruined the Buc's Season and their Good Reputation that Dungy and Gruden created. Schiano and Sherman must walk the plank NOW. Wannstadt can turn around this season and give our players their swagger back so if he can't take them the whole way at least they will not jump ship when free agency comes and will be an attractive draw for a proven NFLCoach to take over.
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    There is a reason to keep Schiano - if we're not in the playoff chase, which we're not, Schiano gives us the best chance at getting the top pick in the draft. If anyone else is coaching this team we win a few games and Jacksonville easily gets the top pick.

    As for Sullivan, the play calling is truly awful and predictable but if you've listened to Schiano he's said that he has a good amount of input on what they're doing on offense from down to down. One thing last year that was truly frustrating is that after their bye week the offense started out games strong, mixing up plays and catching the other team off balance. However as the game went along it got more and more and more predictable. To me it sounds like the Sullivan scripted plays to start the game were actually decent but as the game went along and Schiano got involved everything went to hell. Perhaps, just perhaps, Sullivan isn't completely worthless.

    Honestly at this point I'd just keep Schiano in place and play for the top draft pick. The season is over as it is and do I really want Wannstedt coming in and winning some games and getting the head coach job for next year (ala Richard Williamson)?

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    Some teams have ditched their O.C. midseason and have had success (Ravens come to mind). I hate to have to do that with newbie QB at the helm - seems like he's needing continuity. As far as Steve Reynolds' continuous crusade to have the Bucs' HC fired - I think it's best to do it at the end of the season. This team will need a complete coaching staff overhaul and five games into the season won't lead the Bucs into finding a decent coach. I'm not interested in watching an interim head coach with this team at this time - I think Schiano gives the Bucs their best chance to win.
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    Who is Steve Reynolds??
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    He is a (footballer) (born 1992), Scottish football player
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    I think David Shaw of Stanford would be a great head coach. Stanford graduate, been with the Harbaugh's for awhile (both Jim and John) at Stanford and the Ravens as a QB coach. Also, was Rich Gannon's QB coach the year he won the MVP under chucky @ the Raiders. That maybe a negative for some Bucs fans. I would also say Pat Fitzgerald of Northwestern but I think he is too much of a reach for a situation like the Bucs. Bucs need a bright, forward thinking coach who identifies with players and who's coaching reputation is on the rise. Schiano could bully college kids selecting a 3rd tier college football program ( Although I think Rutgers is a great academic institution ), but not professional athletes. No way would I ever support Dave Wannstadt or Butch Davis. Wannstadt has been fired from his last three jobs, Bears, Dolphins & University of Pittsburgh. Butch Davis' claim to fame is three fold 1) Browns - fired, 2) Univ of North Carolina - fired for Sports Agent improprieties running through his team and 3) riding Jimmy Johnson's ... Johnson.
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    Scott, What other candidates do you see for the interim HC job? What about Butch Davis? Thanks.
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    Greg 'Garbage' Schiano has an owner friendly contract; therefore, the Glazers need to fire him now and see what they have in Dave Wannstedt on an interim basis now and for evaluation of him during the off-season. With the talent that is on this team, Wannstedt might actually be able to do what Schiano has proven he can not do, which is win 1 freaking game in 2013!!
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    Even after 5 losses I still have hope.....hope that Schian Ofer5 gets fired soon!
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    Great article SR. I agree with everything except that I would not be satisfied with a 9-7 season. If it is a season where I believe we have talent (and we do this year) it is playoffs or bust for me. In 2008 Gruden's loss to a toothless Falcons team with a decimated secondary with 4 games to go in the season is very comparable to our loss against Arizona this year. We just need to keep searching until we find a HC good enough to have us in the playoffs year in, year out.
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    I have been yelling at the top of my Facebook will let me! Fire the head coach! NOW !! Glazers man up and fire the head coach! Now I have said it on PewterReport!
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    Wow Scott, I have been a subscriber to the Buccaneer Magazine since its inception, way way back. I don't ever recall you calling for the head of the head coach. I remember you agreeing with some of the firings, but never calling for it before. Schiano was a bad choice that I said was doomed, as soon as it was announced, on these fine bulletin Boards. Amazing. I was actually looking forward to this season. You sound pretty darn upset, and I like it. Nice to get you all fired up Scott. Just don't blow a gasket. Thanks for the article, I could see your face turning red just reading it.
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    Gruden can't draft so forget him. Brat Kiffin is an awful choice.GS should go, but Dominic has brought in a massive amount of talent. I like Shottenheimer. Also, would like Butch Davis as HC and Dave Wanstadt as DC; but they are friends of Sciano. Wonder what Belechete thinks now?
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    Thanks for saying what I've been feeling for the last few weeks, Scott. Pro Bowl talent; 0-5, and 1-10 dating back into 2012; coaching not to lose (which, by the way, is clearly not working). If we want a chance to turn all this talent into a Playoff team, we need to start rebuilding the Coaching staff and the culture at One Buc Place NOW.
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    I am a season ticket holder and long time fan of the Bucs. I agree with the fire Schiano and Sullivan chorus. The fan in me says get it done today. However, it appears they are trying to pin the Freeman medical information leak on Schiano. That may give the Bucs the ability to fire Schiano with cause, particularly if the NFL comes down on the Bucs for the medical release. If true, the Bucs may have a way out of the contract and the financial commitment. If that's what's happening, and we fans aren't going to know, this scenario needs to play out.
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    Don't think that kind of stunt (relief of cause) is sure to draw a good coaching candidate of the ranks -how can you trust the Glazers if they did something like that?
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    @bobc17: Good point about possibly firing Schiano "for cause". That would seem to coincide with owners being cheap. Problem is, how long will it take to get to the truth? These things aren't resolved in a matter of weeks and maybe not at all. Meanwhile, if the Bucs continue to lose (or win less than 4 games), how many good coaches can we attract? How many good FAs can we attract? And how many current players will want to stay? Although your point is well-taken, IMO for the sake of the fans, the players, and the community, it's time to take action now.
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    It was nice that the Glazers chose to put the Bucs on TV the remainder of the season, but now I hear people saying they don't turn it on, or they watch until the half etc. They just can't watch this awful product. The NFL is entertainment, so if you have do lose, at least do it in an exciting way. I bet John McKay would have done back flips to have had the talent this team has now, yet we have the same record now as then. McKay at least had an excuse with the expansion rules not being at all favorable and having to put players on the field that did not really belong there. Schian Ofer does not have the same excuse. I have tried to look at the situation to see what he is actually doing well. I can't figure it out. It is time for him to go. 0-16 is a real possibility, but we may still get lucky with the Panthers and Falcons. It is a fight now between the Giants, Jags and Bucs to see who can suck the most!
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    What bothers me is all those talented players on the Bucs throwing in the towel.Revis even said he's never went 0-5. We have a lot of good players that must be extremely frustrated, not to mention a bunch of pissed off fans. Biggest mess iv'e seen in 30 years. While I hate to pull the plug on Schiano because he has brought discipline , it appears his brand of discipline doesn't in this case equate to wins. Sorry Greg, while I rarely agree with Reynolds, it's a big thumbs down in your case. You don't screw up my BUCS. Go Bucs, don't give up the ship..........
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    Great article! The choices should be, Lovie Smith, the Texas A&M coach and draft Manziel or Butch Davis! Lets GO!
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    Not real sure what a firing would do at this point other than create another distraction. The season is over and an interim coach you have no intention of hiring isn't going to help the situation. He's done, he knows it and everyone else does to. You might as well get a jump on interviewing and putting your efforts there rather than having to explain to every applicant that while you promised your interim coach consideration for the job you aren't really considering him?? What's the difference when your 0-5 and you have to search the schedule for one maybe two wins for the remainder of the season. Make the guy squirm for the rest of the year and face the heat for his decisions. By the way, remember when they hired Schiano they said a recommendation from Billicheck was referenced. That guy has never done anything for any team except the one he coaches for. How stupid could you get? Recommendation from Bill Billicheck..... What a joke!
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    With the talent on this team coach Schiano is one of the bucs worst coaches ever. I have been a season tkt holder for years and am tired of the bs he spins and the record Schiano has. The bucs could do a lot better for the fans so get rid of this guy NOW !!
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    I have followed the Bucs since their inception and sat through a 0-26 record and never felt as bad as I do now about the reputation of our beloved Bucs. And it’s not just the losing, I’m a Buc fan, I know the routine. It’s the total disregard and disrespect for our team in the NFL community at large. We are truly the laughing stock of the league now and it began with the victory formation charge and has gone downhill since. I could see this coming. Many of you thought I had totally lost it when I publicly stated before the season started that I was off the Schiano bandwagon. As I said, I’ve been a Buc fan since 1976 and have been following pro football since Moby Dick was a sardine. When you disassemble a defensive line that was #1 in the league against the run and you run off skilled players only to have Bill Belichick pick them up and make them all-stars, you know there is incompetence in the building. Schiano is in a bear fight and the bear doesn’t need my help. This is terminal. It is now just a matter of time!
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    Macabee; I agree. This is also effecting the local economy. We look like clowns and not in a good way; none of us are laughing.
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    Sometimes change is a good thing. Sometimes it can backfire just as quick. We have played ultra conservative all season. We don't play to win, we play not to loose. If you look at other teams in the league that are under achieving ie: Washington, NY Giants, Houston, ect... The biggest problem is execution and turnovers! That has also been out biggest problem. We back ourself into a corner and can't get out. When we need that big stop, we can't get it. When we need that big 3rd down conversion, we can't get it! With that being said and the fact we are now 0-5 and pretty much out of the playoff race, "IF" we don't open up the offense and let the defense run wild, then we don't know what we have as a team and as a head coach. Schiano is playing "Big East" or "Big Least" smash mouth close game football. He is trying to win games the same way he did at Rutgers and it will win you about 3 games a season. The 4-2 start to the season last year got him thinking that it works. I just hope that the 1-11 in our last 12 games has convinced him to abandon the conservative game plan and let these guys GO GET IT!! I like the man and I love the character, but I am hating the result thus far!! I just hope figures it out before it's too late!
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    Thank you, Scott! I am in complete agreement! Our coach is a joke and our organization is the laughing stock of the NFL. The only way I can stand to go to the game is to go knowing not to expect a win. Schiano needs to go before our Thursday night game. Dominik needs to go, too. Next year - whole new coaching staff. This franchise has gone downhill ever since they fired our last legitimate NFL coach - Gruden.
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    You have no idea what you are talking about. Dom has made the right moves and decisions to get the players we need to be successful. Coaching is what is holding our team back.
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    If you believe Dominik is making those decisions I really don't know what to say other than his decisions were involved with moving up to draft Benn, drafting Freeman and of course Lewis... When Schiano was hired the first statement Dominik made was that he had given up the power to picking the players for the team. I sincerely doubt he was lying. You can continue to pretend we have a real GM rather than a make believe one. Joel Glazer was present at that press conference. (I remember it well)
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    It might be a bit premature to fire Schiano and really shouldn't occur until the end of the season. Of course unless the bucs get rid of Dominik and hire a real GM they will continue to flounder. Dom is in his usual job protection mode with the Bucs current losing streak. How anyone can bring up the name of CLOWN Morris really loses credibility.
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    The Glazers need to give Schiano two more games to really know if there's a chance they hired the right guy. We don't know half the truth of what's really been going on, only the sorry results. Two more weeks, then they will know for sure if they really did screw up as big as you all say. Go Bucs!
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    What do they call a franchise with a coaching carousel? Jacksonville. Changing coaches every other season won't produce a successful franchise. There's no "quick fix" to this team - and going through another coaching staff will only prolong the agony. Got to stick with the current regime at least until the end of the season. The locker room hasn't been lost so please stop referencing Raheem Morris. The team was a circus when he was the head coach.
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    Jacksonville head coaching history: 1.) Tom Coughlin 1995-2002 2.) Jack Del Rio 2003-Nov 2011 3.) Mel Tucker interim remainder of 2011 season 4.) Mike Mularkey 2012 5.) Gus Bradley current As a Jaguars fan I completely disagree with calling it a coaching carousel. If anything we were far more patient with the first two than either deserved. Coughlin is not the same coach now he was in Jacksonville. As far as the last 3, at this rate it doesn't matter who their head coach is, it's going to take years to fix. Schiano must go. The team is a disaster on and off the field. They have talent and it's done nothing all season.
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    Morgan; so you just want to proceed on as to the way it has been going? How do you spell Congress? B-u-c-c-a-n-e-e-r-s
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    @Morgan: No quick fixes? Not this year if course, but there have been a ton of teams that have turned their season around from worst one year to first the next. This year, just look what K C Chiefs have done. At least replacing Schiano with an interim coach would give the fans, players and community some hope that next year will be better.
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    Sad day Tampa Bay. We are the NFL laughingstock again. How far we have fallen and how quickly we have gotten here. I hope the Glazers take bold action to get the team and their fans back because at this rate there wont be more than a handful of people with bags on their heads down the stretch of the season at RayJay. And we still have two prime time games coming up. Oh boy...
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    I think this article is distasteful and low class PR. I agree that Schiano indeed does need to be fired. I'm sure the Glazers are noticing as well and don't need your help to publically persuade the masses. Wins and losses speak volumes. More so than this article ever could. I come here to read articles about how and why we won/lost. Not to read your pursuit to get the coach fired. Just my 2 cents.
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    SilenceTheCritics; Scott gave you what you asked for and also the truth.
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    I don't know....Maybe we should give Schiano the chance to have a "PERFECT" season.
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    I have personally been waiting for articles about coaching options for next year so this is music to my ears. SR you always do a fine job of calling a spade a spade which is why your articles are always Must Reads. I think the Glazers thinking behind not firing Schiano is that along with the talent on the roster the chance of a top 5 draft pick and all the quality QBs available in the draft will make us much more attractive when pursuing coaches this summer. Jon Gruden as Head Coach, Lovie for D Coordinator and I think the winning ways will be back in the Bay. If there's one thing Gruden excels at its getting the most out of the talent on the roster and I think we are all interested to see what this team can do with NFL caliber coaching, not these Combine coaches we have had to suffer through for the past 2 seasons. SR keep the movement alive to run Schiano out of town bc regardless of your reasons behind it the message couldnt be more correct. Can Schiano immediately!
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    We were actually hoping they'd fire him and turn the reigns over to Wanny at halftime! Problem is, they HAVE to fire Dominick also, seeing as he's become nothing more than a puppet yes man for Schiano.
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    I so badly wanted Marty ball here in Tampa. I believe Shottenheimer was interviewed a second time before the Glazers hired Schiano. All the so called experts called Marty a retread but the man has a proven track record in the NFL. I read somewhere that Phillip Rivers had either one year left in his contract with the Chargers or was in his last year? How great would it be to reunite the two of them in Tampa with the current talent already on this team? One can dream can't he? Seriously though I would be thrilled with Shottenheimer's style of football. Go Bucs!
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    I am angry that Schiano, for all his in-chargeness, did not insist Dominick trade Freeman in the off-season. Instead, he pretended Freeman was his QB. He hoped he could make it work. He risked the team's success knowing that He and QB were not in sync and could not work together long term. He hoped the situation would resolve itself and ignored the obvious; He an Freeman could not see eye to eye. And because of that, we all had to watch the QB situation and the season implode. I put that on Schiano. He did not have the guts, the conviction to do in the off season what he knew to be the right thing; trade Freeman and start fresh with a FA QB or a drafted QB that he was in sync with....There are other problems with this team too. Unless something changes, my interest in this season is done. Yesterday was a watershed game for the season. We had to to win. We did not....The problems between Freeman and Schiano did not start this season. He knew Freeman's personality, Freeman's leadership style, his work ethic, his mental agility, his passion for the game. Schiano knew that Freeman would never be his guy. He just tried to play out the Freeman string and hoped he would quietly go away in FA next year. Well he didn't and we are all paying for it with a lost season.
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    I am angry that Schiano, for all his in-chargeness, did not insist Dominick trade Freeman in the off-season. Instead, he pretended Freeman was his QB. He hoped he could make it work. He risked the team's success knowing that He and QB were not in sync and could not work together long term. He hoped the situation would resolve itself and ignored the obvious; He an Freeman could not see eye to eye. And because of that, we all had to watch the QB situation and the season implode. I put that on Schiano. He did not have the guts, the conviction to do in the off season what he knew to be the right thing; trade Freeman and start fresh with a FA QB or a drafted QB that he was in sync with....There are other problems with this team too. Unless something changes, my interest in this season is done. Yesterday was a watershed game for the season. We had to to win. We did not.
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    I agree with the column that he needs to be fired, but your statement that USA Today is reporting that Schiano leaked Freeman's medical info is not correct. They are reporting that the NFLPA thinks that. I think that Dominik needs to be fired as well.
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    We can only hope the Glazers are thinking along your lines Scott. Because if they arent, by the time the last home game of the season comes around, that 44,000 number of fans from the Arizona game may be cut in half. The fans are already turning this team away. I have been a fan since 1976, and right now, I can't take this team seriously. Nice job here Scott. I think Martin Fennelly's quote today tells the story. Referring to the Bucs he said..."I'd call this team a circus, but I stopped doing that out of fear of litigation that actual circuses might consider it libelous to be compared to the Bucs".....Come on Glazers, close down the circus now and get back to getting a professional football operation in place. The fans will support that move. 10 losses in 11 games with all of the sideshows??? Nobody will support that. Keep the hard nose reporting coming Scott.
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    SR, I agree it is time for GS to go, but Domonick needs to be on the same highway out of town. The 2 coaches under his management have produced basically nothing. Too many wasted draft picks via trades for players like KW2 and Stocker. Time to stop with the "he is a good talent acquirer".
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    he cut Brian price and Tanard Jackson because one sucked and the other one had a drug problem. he cut Winslow because he was a cancer to Freeman ( trying to give Freeman a chance because ownership and the gm was sure that hewas our franchise guy). and talib was leaving in free agency so we got what wet could for him. now I'm agreeing with the losses needing to be corrected but let's not add insult to injury by making it seem like the changes made weren't necessary. he is being the stand up, accountable coach by taking blame for everything ( add he should). but maybe Sullivan isn't the OC We need and maybe Sherridan isn't the DC we need and add head coach those changes may need to get made as well. I remember when Gruden was here and everyone crying about how he couldn't develop a quarterback and our drafts were not ever any good. I think schiano has had some pretty good drafts and dominik and made some pretty good hires. so let's not just bash the man for all that he has done. the things he had done were all things that needed to be done. Freeman has been staying down receivers for 5 years and over throwing his short to intermediate possess time and time again. those things were not going to change. you can't tell me that Glennon isn't better at reading the field and going through his progressions. I have been through lots of losing seasons and really thought we were going to shock the league this year. just thought it was going to be with wind and not losses! I think the media (pr included) just didn't like how schiano deals with them and are in a sense out to get the man.
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    Yeap we shocked the league alright. Been a fan since 76 and sad to say it is hard to stomach what is going on. The losing is bad enough. The circus is just not tolerable. I live in Kentucky, came to Tampa for the Arizona game, pretty much with my head hanging down. Now I have to listen to all the Titans, Colts, Bengals and even the RAMS fans give me sympathy. Dang this is hard to deal with. Time to disinfect 1 BUC PLACE. Both the coach and the MRSA have to been cleaned and swept away.
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    Andy Reid is a real NFL coach, why don't hire him last offseason? Or Jeff Fisher?Lovie Smith? Shottenheimer?Miami offensive coordinatore Mike sherman? Dont waste time with college coach .
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    I agree. It's time to fire Schiano, there is no good that can come from him continuing to run this team. Allowing Schiano to remain in charge will only further disenchant a dwindling fan base, and waste the talent level of players that are on the team. It's time to make the move that shows the fans that the Glazers will continue to commit to make this team a winner and start the coaching search today.
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    PewterReportSR, Nothing further needs to be said. You hit this one on the nose. I just wonder what the hell is going on in the minds of the Glazers now? This franchise and Schiano is downright embarrassing.
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    That "brat" Kiffin is available ! Seriously , in my humble opinion, nothing will be done until after the season at witch time I'd say give Jay Gruden a hard consideration.
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    PR has been pissed at the coach ever since he screwed with their press access schedule. Sour grapes. Staff infection/Staph infection - how creative. 1,000 of comedians out of work and you try to be one. Leave it to the experts.
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    well said Morgan, I agree
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    How can you even stick by your tired *censored* approach? This coach has been proven time and again to be a terrible fit. Time to drop the delusion Morgan
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    You are probably a friend or relative of Greg Schiano's or someone who works under him so let me make this easy on you. There was a huge shift in access from the open Rich McKay to the very restrictive Bruce Allen regime. And at no point during Allen's tenure did Scott remotely indicate he needed to be fired. Thus, if you think Scott and PR hasn't dealt with access issues before, you, like Greg Schiano, are an idiot.
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    True Dat! I hope I used the right expression here, heard my grand kids use it before! lol
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    The scary thing is that this can worsen as the season goes on.
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    Please Glazers fire this clown now!
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    PewterReportSR; well said. Fire the Coach now! Everyday he remains here the players will lose the will and skills no matter what they say. It's too late to do anything about this season; we have to start getting ready for 2014. We should be playing and practicing for the 2014 season. I wouldn't even look at who we are playing anymore. I would treat everyday as a practice for the next season. Any player we know that won't be here next season should just be traded or released now. We start over as of today. I am very serious.
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    Sad but true! I agree. Forget about winning this year. Start figuring out your roster for next year.
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    Fire Mike Sullivan also... His play calling has been very predictable.. I never understood why they fired Gruden... He had veteran players sure but it was the defense that caused the Bucs and Kiffin to not make the playoffs.. Hell I say give him a call and apologize.. Raheem was a joke of a hire.. Gruden's family and kids are still here
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    His play calling is god awful. Elis numbers in NY were the same as freemans here under Sully. He needs to go as well
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