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  • #1288157
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    I’m torn on the idea. I mean, the idea sounds good in theory, right? Adds more entertainment and all that jazz.

    But this alternative would greatly increase a teams chances to get the ball back after scoring. Fourth-and-fifteen isn’t easy, but it’s not that hard either. Onside kicks are very very hard to execute, yeah, but getting the ball back again after scoring should be really hard. Maybe, as some others have mentioned, increase it to fourth-and-twenty? But then there is the issue of refs calling/not calling pass interference.

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    #1288144
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    Happy to hear it’s false according to Auman.

    Spend that money (what little there is) more wisely by signing OL, iDL, EDGE, or CB depth would be preferable. After all, you just spent a third-round pick on a RB this year and a second last year. Wait, are they not good enough?

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    #1287159
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    He wasn’t asking for 45m per year. He wants the 5th year to be worth 45m. So he wants either a 4 year deal so he can get paid again earlier or 45m in the 5th year if they go that long. It kind of makes sense. It either forces the team to cut him to avoid that 5th year or renegotiate earlier.

    I don’t think Dak is worth near this money, but it’s not that crazy.

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    The truth is that contract numbers are like this arbitrary and almost meaningless. Time and time again, the only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. 5-years, $175M tells us nothing about how much of it is guaranteed.

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    The truth is that contract numbers are like this arbitrary and almost meaningless. Time and time again, the only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. 5-years, $175M tells us nothing about how much of it is guaranteed.

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    Well said to the above and specifics that I didn’t think of after reading about this. Some may disagree or think he’s being stupid, but assuming the above is true, he’s being smart and proactive about it. In the end, he may not get exactly what he’s seeking, but it’ll most likely fall somewhere in between.

    I can never fault someone for seeking money that they believe they are worth, particularly when you’re being smart and proactive about it.

    Some immediately jump to the side of owners, which is so odd to me, but I’d wager they don’t keep that same energy in their own professional lives. The difference in numbers between the two professional worlds doesn’t matter, but the mentality stays the same. Get your money.

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    #1286786
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    Couldn’t make it.

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    lol

    hilarious

    The best part of it are the serious replies you’re still getting.

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    #1286177
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    If we’re going to spend what little to no cap room that we have on anything, hopefully it’s pass rush depth, OL depth, or CB depth.

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    #1283218
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    No, not happy at all with the RB position, but it is what it is.

    As it stands currently we don’t have a RB who’s a proven, good RB in pass protection and as a weapon as a receiver. That could obviously change in training camp/in the season as one or more could prove to provide the aforementioned abilities.

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    #1282987
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    As someone already mentioned, he’s probably going to the Patriots who I’m sure had this in their plans. Why trade for a guy that is unlikely to be traded and will most like released? Wait until after the draft, where the Bengals draft Burrow, and just wait until they release Dalton. This is what the Patriots do and it seems to work out for them more often than not.

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    #1282787
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    He’s done things on an NFL field that most TEs can’t do. He does not do them often enough and his mistakes were egregious at times last year, but the potential is just too high to ditch yet.

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    Well said. Hopefully learning from a guy like Gronk, who apparently is an awesome teammate, will Help OJ find some consistency to his game.

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    #1282673
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    I don’t think the Vaughn pick was trashed so much for the player as it was for the value.

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    This right here.^^^^

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    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by BucD.

    Neither of you know what the value is. You’re both fooling yourselves if you think you do. If he sucks it was a waste of value. If he becomes an All-Pro, it was a steal. But guys like you think it was bad value because someone else told you he had a 4th round grade.

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    No sir

    The argument being posed here has nothing to do with what round someone graded Vaughn at. Put aside Ke’Shawn Vaughn, the player. The POSITION of RB has a much lower value than other positions such as OL, DL, EDGE. In round three (premium pick), taking a RB over players that are still available, that play at the previously mentioned positions, is poor value.

    Ke’Shawn Vaughn could turnout to be good RB, but so could the other players that were available at other positions with higher value.

    Again, the argument being made isn’t looking at the player itself and how good he is or isn’t. We are talking strictly about the value of the position that he plays.

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    #1282667
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    To make things a bit more challenging, if I’m not mistaken, we already need to free up some additional cap room for signing the rookie class and in-season operating.

    Spotrac has the Bucs cap space at $3,751,955

    So our depth, or lack thereof, may be what it is. Maybe we’ll get lucky with one or two of the UDFAs and the young guys from last year’s group. Not an ideal situation, though.

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    #1282495
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    I don’t think the Vaughn pick was trashed so much for the player as it was for the value.

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    This right here.^^^^

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    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by BucD.
    #1282415
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    As far as RBs go, I think I like the potential of Calais more than Vaughn.

    If Nobody’s up for it/has the time, I’d be interested to see a little breakdown with his thoughts for this guy.

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    #1282414
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    Thanks for the breakdown, Nobody.

    I also agree with Pete Prisco.

    The important point is that the positional value of RB didn’t warrant the pick when players at much more valuable positions were there for the taking.

    I’m HOPING he can be Brady’s James White as he’s built similarly and Combine tested similarly, but I just don’t see it on the field in games.

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    #1281890
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    I didn’t like the reach (IMO) in the third for Vaughn at a lower positional value position like RB. That pick just felt very forced to me. I’d have liked them to go for iOL, DL, or EDGE.

    That was really my only gripe with this draft class. I’ll go B+

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    #1281880
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    Question for people who get so angry when commenters have strong, well-developed opinions on football subjects.

    Why does that bother you so much? And why does it bother you that they’re shared on a message board reserved for sharing exactly that?

    The amount of anger over opinions that dissent from specific types/angles of board enthusiasm is something that needs to be better understood.

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    It’s that tribal mentality that humans latch onto. Many will pick their side and dig their heels in, especially when challenged with an alternative view. Some will take it as a personal attack where I’m sure insecurities play a big part.

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