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    • wesleyc
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      I’d really like Spence. If we have to move up to get him I think you have to pull the trigger at this point. It wouldn’t take too much to pull it off at this point and we’d be getting a top 15 talent at a position of need on day two. Hargreaves and Spence as our first two picks was my ideal scenario and right now that is incredibly attainable.

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      I can't stop thinking about this.  A lot of this is on the player.  He was well respected in the SEC and then he came out of the closet, started doing a lot of press and dancing shirtless in gay bars.  If he just would of committed himself to the game he probably could have competed.

      I don't know if he could've been succesful no matter how committed he was. He was a guy who could play well against lesser competition but didn't have the skillset to find a spot in the NFL.

    • wesleyc
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      anyone who I employed.......who then publically put it out there the next day that he originally wanted to go somewhere else......... would be terminated on the spot.

      He said it would've been nice to play on the same team as one of his friends, nothing more than that. It probably wasn't meant to be taken too seriously and I don't see why you think it's such a big deal. Honestly, calm down.

    • wesleyc
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      I disagree completely. Elliott is not a can’t miss talent, and even if Doug leaves we’re not in dire straits in terms of RB. If he wants a ridiculous amount we can look for cheaper options in free agency. Sims is great as a complimentary piece in the backfield and if we were to bring in a Lamar Miller or a Chris Ivory we’d still have a very strong backfield, even without Doug.

    • wesleyc
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      I believe it would need to be a 4 year deal in the neighborhood of 2016 - 4.5M - Full 4.5MG2017 - 6.5M - 5MG2018 - 9M - 7MG2019 - 12M - 8MG____________32M + incentives total with 24.5M Guaranteed = 4@ an avg. of 6M per.Bucs would need to back it up with an insurance policy against an injury. Lloyds of London does that and they've got Man United~! At least that way its protected in case of injury, of course we would still owe $$ on the cap side of it....Then the Bucs should draft DeAndre Washington from Texas Tech in the 5th/6th round to take Rainey's spot and become Martin's Caddy....

      24.5M guaranteed? Are you insane? Only two good years, and you're going to guarantee 75% of his contract, making him the 3rd highest paid back with the most guaranteed money by far. There are a ton of good rbs on the market this year, if that's what it takes to keep him we should look elsewhere.

    • wesleyc
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      I don’t like Carolina or their antics and I find them and their fans really obnoxious. That being said they’ve been the best team in football, deserve to be recognized as that, and I fully expect them to win this game. Will be really happy when someone knocks them down though, hopefully it’ll be the Bucs.

    • wesleyc
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      I think they are headed for cap hell...Like the Saints are now

      As much as I'd like that to be the case I don't see it. Their big contract guys are performing up to expectations and if Newton keeps playing like he has this year that contract looks pretty good for the Panthers. They don't have enough room to keep all their player, but that happens with all good teams. It only takes a few mistakes to end up like the Saints, but I don't think the Panthers have made them yet.

    • wesleyc
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      Having a way to separate which prospect is being discussed is necessary in my opinion, trying to fit it all into one thread just seems like a headache.

    • wesleyc
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      Trading up rarely looks good in hindsight, even when the player works out. Yeah Julio has turned into a great player but what has it gotten them? They gave up five quality picks to do that. They hit on two of those picks and they would’ve gotten a better haul than Julio alone. Unless you're trading up for a QB, 99% of the time trading up is the wrong move.

    • wesleyc
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      Hell I'd rather see Panthers v. Cards. I can't stand the Seahawks or their fan base.

      Umm how tf do you hate Scam Newton and Luke Weakly less? Makes no sense, they are a division rival ... Seahawks ALL DAY

      Panthers are like the Royals to me, I don't like them but I can at least respect the team and how they got their. Seahawks are the Dodgers or Red Sox, not a division rival but obnoxious fans and, in the case of the Seahawks, obnoxious players. Honestly Panthers isnt a big enough rivalry for me to root against them 100% of the time.

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