Despite leading the Bears 10-0, the Buccaneers had three turnovers in the second half and that keyed a 21-point third quarter by the Bears. Chicago would hang on to a 21-13 victory over Tampa Bay, which falls to 2-9 on the season and is guaranteed a losing season for the fourth straight year. Here are some of the Buccaneers that disappointed against the Bears in Chicago.
MOST DISAPPOINTING BUCCANEERS AT BEARS
QB Josh McCown
In his return to Chicago, McCown wasn’t as sharp or accurate as he had been over the past two games. He had several missed open receivers and was even inaccurate on swing passes to running backs in the flat. While McCown did throw a nice, 19-yard touchdown pass to Mike Evans in the first half, he threw two bad interceptions, including one in the third quarter that aided the Bears’ 21-point effort to rally and take a commanding 21-10 lead. McCown was also sacked and fumbled the ball inside the red zone in the third quarter, which contributed to another Chicago touchdown. McCown completed 25-of-48 passes for a season-high 341 yards with one touchdown and two picks, in addition to getting sacked five times. McCown was pressing too much and lost his poise in the third quarter.
C Evan Dietrich-Smith
Dietrich-Smith was late on two snaps that resulted in two delay of game penalties in the first half. On the first drive of the third quarter, Dietrich-Smith was called for holding on third down. In the second half, Dietrich-Smith gave up a sack to defensive tackle Stephen Paea, who had his way with the Bucs’ center and right guard Patrick Omameh. Dietrich-Smith is an average, overpaid center that hasn’t been a force in the running game or in pass protection.
RG Patrick Omameh
Omameh allowed a pressure by defensive tackle Stephen Paea on Josh McCown’s first half interception, and then gave up a big sack on third down in the third quarter. Omameh is not showing any progress in his run blocking or pass protection and needs to be replaced in the starting lineup next year.
DE Michael Johnson
The overpaid defensive end has just one tackle and didn’t make an impact at all on defense for Tampa Bay. Johnson seemed to be a bystander on Matt Forte’s first touchdown in the third quarter and watched the running back dash right past him.
P Michael Koenen
Koenen has been criticized all season for short punts – and rightfully so. Koenen has had a horrible year punting the football. On Sunday in Chicago, Koenen had an 18-yarder, which was his worst punt of the year. Koenen rebounded a bit with a 53-yard punt later in the game, but only averaged 40.5 yards with a 37.2-yard net average.
PR Marcus Thigpen
After Thigpen fumbled last week at Washington, he muffed his first punt return attempt at Chicago. Luckily for Thigpen and the Buccaneers he recovered his fumble and Tampa Bay kept possession. Thigpen also bobbled another punt and averaged just six yards per return on two attempts. Thigpen was even worse on kick returns, averaging just 14 yards on three attempts with a long of just 21.
RB Doug Martin
Granted the offensive line continued to struggle with run blocking, but Martin struggled once again, rushing for just 27 yards on 11 carries (2.5 avg.). This marks the sixth time he has gotten the start for Tampa Bay and failed to pick up more than 47 yards rushing in a game. It’s stunning to think that Martin, who also had a catch for four yards, has yet to rush for 200 yards (193) despite starting six games this year. Can’t blame it all on the offensive line this year as Bobby Rainey has twice the production and averaged 4.3 yards per carry this year.
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We Can’t put any RBs on the list with our OL? Just saying.
The whole offense was terrible…McCown was lousy—that fumble was one of the worst I have ever seen.
Eric Page was way better last year, bring him back already. At least Patton.
OL wasn’t good; time management I thought hurt us at the end of the first half and was very questionable the last few minutes of the game; play calling in the 2nd half with not using quick slants that they were giving us in the middle was duh. Coaching let this one get away as much as the players performances. It still is better than last year and we are improving. Go Bucs!
There’s no question that Doug Martin has not returned to rookie form in part due to injury and pathetic run blocking. It’s getting all too obvious to me that the PR gang is trying it’s best to pimp Bobby Rainey who had one decent game. Every piece about Martin includes a flag waving for #43. Truthfully, WD40 would struggle with Omameh and Dietrich-Smith getting rolled into the backfield at the snap of the ball. ED-S is actually worse than Jeff Faine.
And worse then Zuttuh. No matter, Glennon, McClown, whoever plays make the bad list. Isn’t time we find a real Q.B.? If we got half way decent play from the Q.B., we win. I’ll admit the line play was bad, but when he did have time, Josh couldn’t hit running backs five yards away. Having a defensive end from Nebraska as our first pick, would not have changed the out come of that game. We need a decent Q.B..
suferdudes; I agree with you we need a QB. The other question I have is Mariota or Winston at this place in time worth our 3rd or 4th spot in the draft? I just don’t know yet. I need more time to review the tape after the season is over.
I agree with the comments above. I would also add officiating and replay system to the list also. I would also add Thom Brennamen, he’s terrible.
If we would have drafted for OL early and often last yr, we would be rolling toward the draft with a chance to get a QB and maybe, just maybe, be on our way. Instead we went for sizzle and skill positions, only one of which has panned out (so far anyway, though ASJ has potential). Now we’re in a bit of a conundrum; we have a ton of holes so would benefit from trading down, but we probably need to take Mariotta and then draft for OL with our next three picks. We would only be a yr behind schedule then, which could be worse. Still not sure if Lovie will need to be replaced 3-4 yrs from now, to get the team over the hump (as with his mentor).
Josh McCown lost the game for us yesterday period. He took a game that we dominated and gave them hope with stupid turnovers. The defense is headed in the right direction but its hard to tell what direction the offense is headed in with this shotty play for our QB. The pieces are there for a better QB to come in and have some success, hopefully we get the right QB for once!
couldn’t agree more stlbucsfan.
Am I the only one who thinks that drafting a QB would be stupid? What are the odds that a first round QB is successful? Especially considering the draft class. Look at RG-Whatever and Cam Newton – Skill? Yes. Elite? No.
Also, there is nothing that says you need an “Elite” QB to win! Look at Flacco – Yah, he’s decent. But he wins because he has time to throw behind a line that blocks. And because they have a running game to offset.
Peyton? Awesome QB. The definition of elite. But he makes those throws because he has time to do so!
Draft should go: O-Line, O-Line, D-Line, LB, CB, and then maybe a late round QB.
We have the cap room to get a great QB in free agency. Matt Flynn is still sitting on a bench, and he is a fantastic QB! (yes lost the job to Wilson, and the reason is obvious, Wilson is a baller.) But Flynn is a pocket passer. Give him time and he will carve up a defense up.
Fix the lines, defend the lines, and the rest will fall into place through coaching and effort.
I am with you 100% NaplesKrewe. I think Winston has Ryan Leaf written all over him. I don’t know about Mariota. Can he read NFL defenses? Does he make good decision? Or is he a flash in the pan like RGIII?
I really DO NOT want to see Winston on the team – he’s a punk – pure and simple. I don’t know enough about Mariota to say he would be a bust. But, the odds are not in his favor. I can say that the first round is too early for the Bucs to be picking a QB.
Consider this: Even if Mariota is a stud – how well would he do behind a line that has bigger holes in it than a bad colander?
Agree and if you had been reading any posts of mine the past 2 weeks you would recall that I have been saying the same thing you have…you are not alone friend!!!
50 percent is the odds that a 1st round qb is not a bust (roughly)
Bucs need to lose the rest of these meaningless games and draft Mariotta- The End
This is a very bad offense totally rebuilt by a very bad HC and GM. The problem? St. Lovie Smith’s hire by the Glazers who didn’t give it a second thought. THAT is what is “most disappointing” for fans who keep hoping against hope that this team is not as horrible as it looks on the field week after week after week. Pathetic.
I can’t believe that so many “knowledgeable” buc fans are calling for a qb in the draft. I think that is insane! I don’t care who you put back there, THEY WILL FAIL with our porous OLINE.
The only way I will get behind drafting a qb with our first pick is if we somehow wind up replacing 2/3 the oline in free agency. And you know how well we did this year.
McC and Glennon are both good enough to score behind a decent line —– THEY ARE BOTH BETTER THAN DILFER and look what he did with a great oline.
let’s stop all the QB talk and really improve this team. OLINE and DLINE is what we need.
tjtruth- How in gods name do you think McCown or Glennon are the answer at qb? Wow! mcCown is a 35 yr old journeyman qb who is lucky to still be in the league that played great for a 8 game stretch last yr with the Bears. Glennon when given time is a statue in the pocket and panics under (some) duress and is inaccurate, ask Lovie if Glennon is the guy. Dilfer won with Jamal Lewis at RB and a stellar defense so thats a horrible comparison
JG, you misunderstand what I am trying to say. I do not believe McCown or Glennon is the qb of the future. But they ARE serviceable, given they have the time. Two weeks ago, McCown had a very good performance because the oline gave him time.
All I am trying to say here is it starts up front. Get the OLINE and DLINE set up in 2015 and draft a QB in 2016. If you do it the other way around, your QB of the future may get destroyed their first year.
An O-line can no longer protect the QB by themselves well enough to get a team to the Super Bowl. The QB has to help out by being athletic and smart. The Colts don’t have a good O-line which is why they were in position to draft Luck. They still can’t run the ball and Luck has taken a huge number of sacks since he’s been in the league. But they win games because he’s athletic and smart in addition to being able to throw from the pocket. It used to be all you had to be was accurate from the pocket and the O-line would do the rest, but there are too many great pass rushers nowadays. Other good examples are Roethlisberger and Rodgers. Neither of them have had good O-lines over their careers, but they found ways to overcome the pressure and sacks. Mariota can do the same thing.
I try to go easy in the criticism, it takes a terrible performance and usually several terrible performances before I speakup. We need a franchise QB. I don’t care if Smith and Licht have to pull a Ditka and trade our entire 2015 draft, we need a Mariota or Winston rerunning our offense. I have blamed a weak O-line, a poor running game, and the loss of our OC, but the truth is we don’t have anything that remotely resembles a QB. I and half the fans in the stadium (including the ladies) could have thrown that Td pass to Evans. We have a great group of WR’s that are usually overthrown, under thrown or even worse wide open and not thrown to at all. There is no excuse this year. Get a Quarterback……..
Mark – your job seems pretty easy with this article week-to-week…it’s the same list over and over…I wonder if Licht is noticing that as well?????
This team is going no where without a good QB period end of discussion. We do not have one on the roster now. Dilfer was probably better than these two guys and its a horrible comparison even if he isn’t because that was back when rules didn’t stack everything in offenses favor. The Seahawks had an efficient offense and stellar defense. They still wouldn’t made Super Bowl without having an efficient good enough offense and a dynamic play maker qb that wears out defenses and can almost never sack him! In old days you could hold a team to few FG’s and win with killer defense. That is not the case anymore.
I do want to add that I think we should draft several O-linemen in the next draft. I’m just not in favor of trading down in the 1st round to pick up extra picks then taking a OT with our 1st pick and a QB later on. You don’t pass on franchise QB’s when you need one and Mariota is a franchise QB. Also, I think this is a rare year where we can get a good starting LT in the top of the 2nd round. Usually the good ones are gone by the middle of the 1st round. Most of the top ranked OT’s have not performed as well as expected this year. The LT’s from Texas A&M, Stanford and LSU have all underperformed and I’m confident that one of them will fall out of the 1st round. However, I think all three are better than Collins. I also think we can get a good center or guard in the top of the 3rd round.
I concur on Mariota pinkstob…and on a new LT, G and C….sadly the bar is very low for replacing those Olinemen and we can almost upgrade by picking with our eyes closed….
I’m not saying you are incorrect – but how can you know Mariota is a franchise QB? No one can know that. the QB position entails so much that there is no one way to know how good a college QB is going to be in the NFL.
The same can be said for every position of course. But when you are talking the physical positions on the line (O Line or D Line) there are less variables. You can make a more educated decision on the pick based on size/weight/speed/strength etc etc.
— it’s all a crap shoot when it comes down to it.
NapelsKrewe you’re right that nothing in the NFL, or the world for that matter, is guaranteed including whether Mariota will be a franchise QB. Like you said you make an educated decision based on the variables. The best way I can explain it is to use my wife as an example. I was 100% confident that the marriage would work out before we got married. Now again, nothing was guaranteed because over 50% of marriages end in divorce. But after all these years I’m as confident today as I was then because like you said you look at the variables, the signs, the way things have gone and the way things are going. Based on the variables with Mariota and the variables of other QB’s who have made it in the NFL he has all those variables. Guys like Locker, C. Ponder, Geno Smith, Gabbert, Freeman, J. Campbell, JaMarcus Russell (even J. Manziel)all had huge, huge question marks that one team elected to ignore. Those kinds of question marks didn’t surround Luck, Newton, E. Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger. There were nit picks, but nothing major. I’m applying the same logic to Mariota as I did those other QB’s…and my marriage. You’ll see, as the draft approaches the “experts” will see Mariota as a safe pick (not a perfect pick) for a franchise QB.
Pinkstob- Excellent points!!! Listen guys its simple when your drafting a qb of the future do you want the best collegiate prospect or a guy not as good in college rated with a 2nd to 4th round grade? There is no guarantee in drafting guys but you do draft the best guy at his position in college and Mariota will be fist qb off the board
LMAO! in your analogy of marriage and the fact that your marriage is working out (nice job; one right) then the 50% your talking about is here now in QB. (One wrong) 50%…lol
Mariota hasn’t played in the NFL yet so how can it be wrong? You make no sense Dbuc63.
I guess that is why these guys get paid the big bucks and we get to complain about it when it goes wrong!
PINKSTOB – You are mis reading..it was a joke. Apparently not a good one. Disagree however on drafting a QB as I agree BPA. You make valid points as do I and in the end the people making millions a year will ultimately be the ones making the critical decision. In the end who cares who is right (fans) as long as whatever way they(Coach, GM) go it is the right one and we flourish next year…GO BUCS!!!!!!
I haven’t commented yet, but here we go. Living in the Pacific NW, I’ve seen a lot of Mariota since he was a Freshman. The man can play. Fortunately for him, he can run like a WR (he’ll need to with our O-line). His accuracy can be a bit inconsistent, but I would be very happy if he were to be our pick. I’d feel the exact opposite if Winston was the pick. If Winston is this big of a prick now, what will he be like when he has some $ that doesn’t come with (ahem) autographs? I can’t imagine the amount of legal problems he’ll have when he has actual money and even more cameras following him than he has now.
We all want the same thing here…….a quarterback who puts fear in the hearts of the opponent, an offensive line that can keep him upright and a group of weapons at his disposal. But offensive linemen are a lot easier to obtain in the middle of the draft than a potentially elite QB. I’ve not seen Mariotta, but I have seen a lot of Winston. If we just look at who the ‘Nole is on the field, he seems to have that “it” factor. Off the field is a different story if we conclude that the “rape” allegation is true (never even arrested), if the autographs for pay is true (just a rumor) the first half point shaving is true (another rumor) and the inappropriate comment (true but who hasn’t said something regrettable?) If the Bucs are to consider drafting the undefeated QB who never gives up, just do the homework to get the facts about his character. Then make the decision if the opportunity to draft him presents itself. If there are too many risks, we stay status quo and keep trying to win with a has-been or a never-been. I always loved watching LT Paul Gruber while losing every week. Yes, I’m being sarcastic.
Scu- You sound like a guy blowing the trumpet for the Noles, Winston had a great season LAST yr he has had a mediocre one this yr while barely getting by mediocre collegiate teams. Not to mention the guy is Jarmarcus Russel stupid, when he talks I’m actually embarrased for him as he sounds like a man who didn’t go to school beyond the 3rd grade. Let us not forget he shop lifted in Tallahasee where he is a sports icon and most recognizable figure in the city to steal some crab, lol and this is the guy you want representing our team? PASS
Scu- I don’t even know you can even talk about all those allegations and keep a straight face
Jongruden I agree. Pass on this POS. Winston is dumb as a brick. I’m tired of losing but I do not want this guy representing the Bucs. Talk about embarrassing. No telling if he will be a busy or not either. Not a sure thing at all. Build the O line and get a QB when we can. This team isn’t going to turn around in one season anyways.
Do any of you who want a QB in the 1st round actually believe Lovie will draft one? I also would like one and believe that with the later picks we could shore up to OL, not with elite talent but talented enough. I just don’t think he will do it. More likely he will look to the FA scrap heap again.
BucTebow- There is a common theme when drafting in the top 5 of the draft if you don;t have a franchise qb on your roster and there is one labeled as one they will draft the qb guaranteed. Lovie didn’t like McCown as soon as he arrived at One Buc Place looking at bringing in a 35 journeymen qb to hold the wheel till we can get the future in here, Lovie likes mobile qb’s which Glennon is the antethesis of this, and Mariotta and Hundley are both athletes who can throw the ball so if Bucs draft in top 3 which they will they are drafting a qb with that pick and it won’t the train wreck Winston much to the dismay of my buddy Scu (Noles fan)
I mean Lovie didn;t like Glennon oops
I think that since he passed on Donald (and some other defenders) to take Evans last year….yes I think it’s totally possible that we’ll pick a QB…while Lovie seems to be all about defense on the field, maybe he is able to see the Light on draft day 🙂
Scubog is correct about Winston, but I can’t get pass his immaturity and Tampa isn’t a place to expect he will grow up; there are way too many temptations all around for a young man with character issues already. Mariota for me is safer because the guy can run and like someone said before, he will need to. I can’t get over the clone of Oregon system, just like the Alabama defensive system and that didn’t work out well with us recently. I agree we need a QB, but are these two guys it? Ugh!
I just said Winston’s on-field performance warrants consideration and I also said his off-field antics warrant a lot of investigation before making a decision to draft him. At the end of the day, someone is going to either get a potentially great player or as JonnyG said another Jamarcus Russel. I don’t know Winston nor do I have access to his report card or SAT scores. To say the guy is “dumb” because he doesn’t speak eloquently is simply presumptuous. I only want a QB to throw a football and run an offense. I really don’t care if he can be a contestant on Jeopardy. Wasn’t Terry Bradshaw thought to be a dumb country bumpkin?
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