INDIANAPOLIS, IN - FEBRUARY 28: Defensive lineman Noah Spence of Eastern Kentucky participates in a drill during the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium on February 28, 2016 in Indianapolis, Indiana. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images)
Buccaneers fans were glued to the NFL Scouting Combine when the defensive linemen took the field at Lucas Oil Field in Indianapolis on Sunday. Two of the top 10 prospects – Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa and Eastern Kentucky defensive end Noah Spence were slightly disappointing – while Oklahoma State defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah and Clemson defensive end Shaq Lawson stood out athletically and could become top 10 prospects as a result.
• Ogbah measured 6-4, 273 pounds and had incredibly long arms, which measured 35.5-inch arms. He blazed in the 40-yard dash with a 4.62 time, including a 1.59 in the 10-yard split. Ogbah was impressive in virtually every area at the Combine with a 35.5-inch vertical jump, a 10-1 broad jump and 20 reps in the bench press. While he does have some hot and cold plays on tape, Ogbah had back-to-back years of double-digit sacks, including two of Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston in 2014. Ogbah really helped himself at the Combine as a top 20 selection.
• Lawson looked a little pudgy, which has some scouts concerned about his commitment to the weight room, but he put on a show in Indianapolis. The nation’s leader in tackles for loss weighed in at 6-foot-2 and a half, 269 pounds and ran a 4.70 in the 40-yard dash with a 1.64 split. While he didn’t bench, Lawson had a 33inch vertical and a 10-foot broad jump. Lawson also performed well in linebacker drills and solidified his status as a top 20 pick.
• Spence measured 6-foot-2, 251 pounds and had an impressive 10-1 broad jump and 35-inch vertical leap. His 25 reps with 33-inch arms were also impressive, but his 40-yard dash time of 4.8, which he ran twice, was disappointing. NFL scouts had compared him to Khalil Mack and Von Miller, but those players ran in the 4.6 and 4.5-range, respectively. Spence did have a fast 1.62 10-yard split, which helps, and he proved to be explosive in other drills. The big test for Spence at the Combine wasn’t the 40-yard dash, but interviews with NFL teams over his past use of ecstasy, which got him kicked out of Ohio State. Eastern Kentucky’s pro day is next week, so Spence will get another crack at the 40-yard dash very soon.
Ohio State DE Joey Bosa – Photo by: Getty Images
• The 6-foot-5, 269-pound Bosa ran a disappointing 4.86 in the 40-yard dash, but had a respectable 1.69 10-yard split. He did bench 24 reps of 225 pounds and had an impressive 10-foot broad jump and was second overall in the three-cone drill with a great 6.89 time. Bosa didn’t look particularly fluid in the defensive end drills and didn’t lock up the top defensive lineman billing, which could go to Oregon’s DeForest Buckner, who ran a 5.05 in the 40 as a 6-7, 291-pound 3-4 defensive end. Buckner, who needs more knee bend, but was impressive in drills, had the largest hands ever measured at the Combine at 11 ¾ inches and had a 9-8 broad jump.
• While Ogbah and Lawson really improved their status as first-rounders, Oklahoma defensive end Charles Tapper may have been gotten the biggest benefit from the Combine. Tapper was the fastest defensive lineman in Indy, running a 4.59 in the 40-yard dash with an impressive 1.59 10-yard split at 6-foot-2, 271 pounds. Tapper had a great 34-inch vertical and a 9-11 in the broad jump. Tapper also showed well in the weight room with 23 reps on the bench press with 34-inch arms. Tapper now seems like a lock in the second round.
• Another defensive end that helped his stock rise was Maryland’s Yannick Ngakoue, who weighed in at 6-foot-2, 252 pounds. Ngakoue ran a 4.75 in the 40-yard dash with a 1.65 10-yard split. He had an impressive 34.5-inch vertical jump and 9-10 broad jump, while benching 26 reps of 225 pounds with 32-inch arms.
• The stock of Boise State defensive end Kamalei Correa is on the rise after the 6-foot-2, 243-pounder ran a 4.69 in the 40-yard dash with a 1.63 split. Correa had the shortest arms of any of the linemen at just under 32 inches, but did bench 21 reps of 225 pounds. He also had a 33-inch vertical and a 9-0 in the broad jump, which should make him a second- or third-rounder.
• Penn State’s giant defensive end Carl Nassib measured 6-foot-6 and a half and weighed 277 pounds. While his 4.84 time in the 40-yard dash wasn’t terribly impressive, his 1.62 10-yard split was. Nassib benched 225 pounds 21 times with 34-inch arms and had a 28.5-vertical leap and a 9-6 broad jump to solidify his draft status between the second and third rounds.
• Baylor DE Shawn Oakman was the tallest lineman, measuring 6-foot-7 and a half and weighing 287 pounds. He benched 23 reps, which is impressive considering he has arms that are nearly 36 inches long. Oakman showed some explosiveness with a 32-inch vertical and a 10-3 broad jump, but his 4.96 time in the 40-yard dash was terrible and his 1.74 10-yard split wasn’t impressive. Oakman seems destined to be a mid-round draft pick at best unless he significantly improves his 40-time at Baylor’s pro day.
• Several defensive tackles that put on a show in Indy, starting with South Carolina State’s Javon Hargrave, who weighed in at 6-foot-1, 309 pounds. Hargrave ran a 4.93, which was one of the fastest times for a defensive tackle, with 1.7 split. He also had a 34.5-inch vertical with a 9-1 broad jump. Hargrave also benched 225 pounds 29 times with 32-inch arms. Hargrave could have boosted his stock into the third round on Sunday.
• Florida’s Jonathan Bullard was undersized at 6-foot-3, 285 pounds, but ran a 4.93 in the 40-yard dash with an impressive 1.66 in the 10-yard split. Bullard posted a 32-inch vertical and a 9-8 broad jump. He had 23 reps of 225 pounds with arms that were just under 34 inches. Bullard has a chance to be drafted in the late first or early second round.
• Louisville’s Sheldon Rankins, 6-1, 299, has drawn comparisons to Aaron Donald, but wasn’t quite as fast with a respectable 5.03 in the 40-yard dash and a 1.74 10-yard split. He did have an eye-opening 34.5-inch vertical and a great 9-10 broad jump. Rankins proved to be plenty strong with 28 reps with 33-inch arms. He seems like a lock to be a first-round draft pick due to his quickness.
• Baylor defensive tackle Andrew Billings, who is in consideration to be the first defensive tackle off the board in the first round, measured 6-foot, 311 pounds and ran a faster-than-expected 5.05 in the 40-yard dash with a 1.77 10-yard split. He also had a 27.5-inch vertical leap and benched 31 reps with 33-inch arms.
• Ole Miss defensive tackle Robert Nkemdiche interviewed poorly at Indy according to NFL Network with several teams taking him off their draft boards due to character questions. Yet the 6-foot-3, 294-pound Nkemdiche proved to be athletic, running a 4.87 twice with a 1.68 10-yard split. Nkemdiche benched 28 reps and had a 35-inch vertical with a 9-8 broad jump. He’s a physical specimen, but his lack of production on the field and off-field character concerns will likely keep him out of the first round.
Clemson DE Shaq Lawson – Photo by: Getty Images
Because there is so much interest in the defensive linemen in this year’s draft from Bucs fans, here are the top five scores in the main categories from the NFL Scouting Combine. Ogbah scored the best, followed by Lawson, Spence, Bosa, Oakman and Mccallister, who all were among the top 5 in at least two categories.
TOP 5 DL 40-YARD DASH
1. DE Charles Tapper – 4.59
2. DE Emmanuel Ogbah – 4.62
3. DE Kamalei Correa – 4.69
4. DE Shaq Lawson – 4.70
5. DE Dadi Nicholas – 4.74
TOP 5 DL 10-YARD SPLIT
T1. DE Charles Tapper – 1.59
T1. DE Emmanuel Ogbah – 1.59
3. DE Carl Nassib – 1.62
4. DE Kamalei Correa – 1.63
5. DE Shaq Lawson – 1.64
TOP 5 DL 3-CONE DRILL
1. DE James Cowser – 6.80
2. DE Joey Bosa – 6.89
3. DE Shilique Calhoun – 6.97
4. DE Alex Mccallister – 7.01
5. DE Bronson Kaufusi – 7.03
TOP 5 DL ARM LENGTH
1. DE Alex Mccallister – 36
DE Shawn Oakman – 35 3/4
3. DE Emmanuel Ogbah – 35 1/2
4. DT Vernon Butler – 35
T5. DE Dadi Nicholas – 34 3/4
T5. DE Darius Latham – 34 3/4
TOP 5 DL VERTICAL JUMP
1. DE Dadi Nicholas – 41
T2. DE Emmanuel Ogbah – 35.5
T2. DE Jason Fanaika – 35.5
T4. DE Noah Spence – 35
T4. DT Robert Nkemdiche – 35
T4. DE Matt Judon – 35
TOP 5 BENCH PRESS
1. DT Chris Mayes – 33
T2. DT Ronald Blair – 32
T2. DT Matt Ioannidis – 32
4. DT Andrew Billings – 31
5. DE Matt Judon – 30
TOP 5 BROAD JUMP
1. DE Alex Mccalister – 10-8
2. DE Shawn Oakman – 10-3
T3. DE Emmanuel Ogbah – 10-1
T3. DE Noah Spence – 10-1
T5. DE Joey Bosa – 10-0
T5. DE Shaq Lawson – 10-0
T5. DE Romeo Okwara – 10-0
• The Buccaneers likely won’t draft a linebacker, especially in the first three rounds. The top two linebackers – Notre Dame’s Jaylon Smith and UCLA’s Myles Jack – are recovering from knee injuries and did not participate. The early word from Indy regarding Smith, who would be a top 5 pick if healthy, was not good. Rumors suggest Smith, who had a severe knee injury in his bowl game, suffered nerve damage and might miss all of 2016 and perhaps beyond. Jack hasn’t been cleared to work out yet after suffering an ACL injury during the year, but projects to be a top 5 pick.
• Ohio State’s Darron Lee, 6-1, 232, ran the fastest time – a 4.47 with a 1.55 split. His teammate, 6-foot-4, 254-pound Joshua Perry, was equally impressive in running a 4.68 with a 1.59 split. Lee led all linebackers with an 11-1 broad jump.
• Washington’s Travis Feeney was impressive in running a 4.5 with a 1.59 split at 6-foot-4, 230 pounds. He also had a 10-10 broad jump, which was the second-best among linebackers, and a 40-inch vertical, which was the best mark for his position group.
• Vanderbilt’s Stephen Weatherly, who was 6-foot-4, 267 pounds, and East Carolina’s Montese Overton each ran a 4.61 with a 1.59 split, while LSU’s Deion Jones ran a 4.59 with a 1.6 split.
• Georgia outside linebacker Leonard Floyd solidified his first-round standing with a 4.6 in the 40-yard dash once and then skipped the next run, but had a 39.5-inch vertical jump with a 10-7 broad jump.
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So, the draft is deep at DT. Edge rushers, EVERYONE is looking for, but after Bosa, the others all have questions, either with character,”motor”, or production history. SO what do the Bucs do? Can Spence be “that guy” or is he a reach at 9. This is going to be very interesting.
Bosa has questions too, like why he only got about 5 sacks despite facing mediocre competition last year. After running 4.86 40 and showing an average get off in games his speed and agility also raise questions.
Makes me wonder, would the Bucs be better off trading down and taking the BPA, or could the OT from ND be there at 9? Are there ANY playmakers at 9?
Remeber the movie Draft Day where everybody was so thought the prise QB was the best and people did not do there home work. I think Bosa is like the QB. If I was Tampa they should look at the player from baylor in DE Emmanuel Ogbah either at no#9 or drop down a few slots and get this player,Tampa would be set at DE for years to come.GO Bucs
I think this was a good summary SR. The only thing I would add is that NFL Network said that N. Spence did not interview well. One NFL personnel member interviewed even went as far as saying something to the effect of, “Can we please stop talking about this guy as a 1st round prospect?” I still think Spence will go in the middle of the 1st round, but after seeing them perform and hearing again that Spence didn’t interview well (I read the same thing at the Senior Bowl) I would take Ogbah over Spence. Ogbah is bigger, faster and was more productive against tougher competition. Also, Ogbah appears to be wiser since he doesn’t have a history of being busted multiple times for drug use. Failing multiple drug tests for ecstasy is one thing, but he was later arrested for public intoxication last year. Not enough to where I would say “Don’t draft him”, but it does give me pause, especially after he isn’t interviewing well on the issue both at the Combine and Senior Bowl. With Ogbah outperforming him at this point I think Ogbah is the BPA at the #9 spot, only falling that far due to inconsistent (though still productive) play. Again, I think E. Elliott will get drafted ahead of the #9 spot so I no longer consider him the BPA.
Agree on Ogbah. Surprised, but pleased! Definitely helped himself out today!
Whole heartily agree with you on both of your posts Pink. I definitely am not in the Bosa court as I thought he was vastly overrated coming into that based on production, or lack thereof.
Not a good showing for Spence either and he didn’t kill interviews so I am starting to lean another direction. It’s funny how it started as Ogbah, and then swung a bunch of different directions, and then now back to Ogbah.
I’ve always favored the fact that he has consistent production through his years and he obviously is the most athletic of the guys on here. Very interesting situation for the Bucs here.
DO we trade back this year? I just don’t see that top talent that I usually see every year. Maybe because this is the first time in a while that RB, WR, and QB classes have been just ok.
I don’t mind trading back either, but I’m starting to get excited about Ogbah. What I’ll do going forward is start watching full OSU games from the past couple of years on YouTube since I’ve only seen him play in one game. I don’t like highlight films because they leave important stuff out, but nowadays you can find just about any game in it’s entirety online.
As a Noles fan, he was havok against Jameis two years ago, but I don’t watch too much big 12 football. And like we stated above, he has multiple years of good production. It would be interesting if either Spence or Ndkemdiche , hope I spelled that right, fell to the second round. Both with character /Drug issues.
I was most excited today seeing DL coach Jay Hayes and LB coach Mark Duffner on the field during drills. That is an up close and personal evaluation – like getting a team visit from every D-Line player. I trust who the Bucs will draft this year. Some impressive performances from players I didn’t even know. Everybody I saw today looked like they could help us out. LOL.
They could mac.
Good report Scott. I agree with Pinkstob; the only DL that looked like maybe he was a Spot 9 guy was Ogbah. We need DL, but there is no need to reach when we can draft them in Rounds 2 & 3. I doubt we get much for trading down so I’m for trading up to try to grab Ramsey at CB. We have Dallas who could use a solid back up and perhaps replacement for Romo and that is Glennon. Why not swap spots and trade Glennon to Dallas?
They won’t trade Glennon. We need the experienced backup to. Looks like it will be the game film evaluations which separate these DL and DE prospects which I trust the Buc’s staff will do a god job at. Looks like a lot of talent there in first 2 rounds at positions we need.
I know many of you have a phobia regarding Clemson players. But Lawson has to be considered. Production, winner, gutsy, good splits. Just saying.
We need to get over the Clemson thing. If a kid is good and grades out well on game film then he has to be considered. Clemson has 2 good DE’s.
Great article with informative comparisons. One minor point – in the write-up you credit Spence with a 1.62 10-yard split, but don’t have him listed among the top 5 DL performers in that category – he would be T3 if the write-up is correct.
One thing about Spence that concerned me was that in one of his quotes he blamed the crowd he was hanging with rather than himself. What’s that slogan, “Just say NO”. I say, “Just say No to Spence.” We can’t take the chance. As someone said, this isn’t a maturity issue. This whole Draft class seems a bit ho-hum at the top. Trade down to get better value or up to get Ramsey?
I agree on Spence Scu. Seems there is plenty of DE’s to choose from so why reach for a potential problem. I think the Buc’s will get it right in this draft.
scubog, so agree with you. Ramsey is an impact player. We can grab a DE in Rd 2.
Reading my mind Scu, I”m not blown away by this draft class at all outside of a few players. Really deep, but not top heavy with talent.
Boy what a difference a year makes, Character last yr was blamed on immaturity this yr we don’t use that excuse we put a lot of stock into it saying we can’t risk taking a bad character guy at #9 but last yr it was fine doing that at #1, very ironic I must say
Jameis killed his interviews which quelled the doubts people had about his maturity. Plus his skill level surpassed any other available QBs.
In Spence’s case, he apparently didn’t interview well enough to put people’s doubts at ease. He also hasn’t proven to be far superior to the competition.
I’m thinking we either go with Ogbah or see who we can get in the 2nd round. Correa and possibly even Spence will still be there. I think it will be much easier to justify the risk in round 2 than it will be at #9. Plus we get 2 DEs to battle it out for a roster spot.
If we can trade up for Ramsey that’d be great but I don’t see that as a very likely option at this point.
*go with Ogbah AND/or see who’s there in the 2nd round
Just saw that Ramsey DB ran a 4.4 40 yard dash and broad jump of 11″2′. This says two things to me, we unfortunately won’t have a chance to draft him unless we move into the top five, and 2, jonG will want to reconsider the bet with my brother cgmaster because he’s most certainly going top five lol. I’m very curious about this years draft. Unless it’s Ramsey I wouldn’t mind trading back to stock up. This may not be a top heavy loaded draft but it’s very deep and loaded in the positions we need. Very interesting
Jon, not even close to compare the two situations because Winston was never involved in drugs; his were minor immature things. He was never charged for anything pertaining to the sexual issue.
Winston was charged with a civil citation of stealing crab legs. There a lot of character concerns about Winston more than the alleged rape, gun shooting on campus stuff, there was him yelling in the student union cafeteria obscenities at the students and he and Jimbo butting heads etc. I am a Winston guy unlike Pink I’m am not a Winston Hater, just find it ironic how we down played the events of our guy last yr and even now and only look at others with a microscope and say we wouldn’t touch him, hilarious
That said I don’t pass up talent I would take Spence he is above everyone else as far as pass rushers coming out although I wouldn’t be against Ogbah, and I do like Carl Nassib in the 2nd
I lived in Tallahassee for 18 years and I had many of the FSU players rent from me. Sad to say this, but Bobby Bowden was St. Bobby and the players were his Angels and the coumminity for most part followed them in awe. Jimbo is close to being a Saint too. Of course sport players get benefits that is handed to them and yes some make mistakes in taking some of those extra benefits. The employee of Publix was the real bad guy here because he somehow believed it was okay to give players grab legs and yes Winston was dumb for taking them. Drugs is something totally different and Spence interview with the Bucs showed to me that this kid isn’t done yet being a kid. There were a few players I gave big breaks to when they destroyed their apartment or kicked down doors or broke windows in domestic disputes because I remember I was no Saint in College either and I made sure they learned from their mistakes and followed up on it. Some are still in the NFL; some had long NFL Careers; some were All Pro’s. Never did I give a player on a drug issue or a rape issue a break. Big difference.
Gee whiz Horse, there is big difference between using drugs and committing rape. A huge difference.
I’m not a big fan of Spence’s because of his height and weight, not because he used a drug I don’t even think is considered addicting.
We already have two or three players that fit Spence’s size and weight and they aren’t terrorizing anybody.
Whoever they draft they better have a bit of attitude on the field every Sunday and be able to get some players on board with it as well.
You can be friends with these guys after the game but during it, they need to treat the other team like the enemy, which they are.
Jongruden, I love the way you use the “truth” about Winston’s behavior in college.
First of all, the gun he was shooting was a “BB gun.” Second of all, Jimbo Fisher stated he had a virtual open door policy on the sidelines with Winston in regards to any game issues, And third, he wasn’t yelling obscenities at other students at the cafeteria, he was just yelling out loud some inane obscene rant he read from someone while standing on a chair.
If you have ever been to a major university lately, I would tell you it would be almost impossible not to hear a number of students, both male and female, using language that belongs in the belly of a navel vessel than at an institution of higher learning.
Just wanted to keep the record straight.
drdneast; good one. Jongruden takes things too far with no proof. Winston didn’t rape anyone as he was never charged. Whether we like it or not, it’s his word against her word. She didn’t help herself by texting to him the morning and afternoon and at Pot Belly’s; having drinks with him, and go back to his dorm with him and get a ride back to her dorm with him. All I have read from the DA records there was no evidence or proof that Winston did anything wrong and thus no charges were filed. Like the DA said something not good helped between those two and only them know what happened. I know the Leon County DA as I have had some dealings with him in the past with some of my past Tenants and he couldn’t find anything to take it forward.
You act like I said something different than what you said, lol you said the same thing i said “gun” “BB Gun” whatever, shouting obsenities at student union, is what i said and you elaborated with a long excuse what the obsecenties were, FACT is he was suspended for doing so, so obviosuley its not as trivial as you tried making it sound. Thx for “clearing up what I said but honetly you just added a a few more details to what i already said, lol
drdnest- and if you had ever been associated personally with College athletics than you would know they are held to a higher standard than the regular student, so Winston was out of line and if you don’t agree thats fine but Jimbo suspended him for a game because of it “FACT”
Suspended………but not kicked out of school. Surely Winston has proven his doubters wrong. C’mon JonnyG, you always take a hard line stand against a “character” flaw. I’m mot suggesting Spence is a bad guy. I’m more concerned that he becomes Pacman Jones when he gets more money in his pocket and his former crowd tries to insert themselves back into his life. Aren’t you a bit skeptical?
Yes jongruden, I put in a few more “details.” Details you failed to mention because they made the behavior seem more like freshman antics, which they were.
Here is another way of using details.
You could say I “exposed” myself to a bunch of people on the USF campus, which I most certainly did.
In actuality, I went streaking with grou of about 75 people when streaking was the thing to do.
Yes, I am that old.
Details, details, details.
As far as the obscenities, sorry, but if it had been anyone else, nothing would have been done.
Finally, in regars to the rape allegat4ion, you are right Horse, the DA summed it up pretty well.
I have two daughters and I will tell you what I told them about going home with men and to their homes and apartments.
If you go home with a guy after midnight, don’t think for a second he’s inviting you to go up for a challenging contest of chess.
He wants you to go home with him for one reason and one reason only and if that’s not what you want, you damn well better not go.
Funny about the streaking drdneast. There was even a song about the fad. “Don’t look Ethel!”It demonstrated that one needs to know the circumstances to make accurate judgements.
I too have two adult daughters and gave them the same message when they were growing up. I’m pretty sure that girl knew what was on the itinerary and signed off on it when she got in the car and willingly entered Winston’s room. I know if I were young Jameis I would have seen the green light.
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