Having just returned from Mobile, Ala. to scout the 2015 Reese’s Senior Bowl, PewterReport.com serves up its second Buccaneers’ 7-Round Mock Draft of 2015. For the first time since 1987 when the Bucs took Miami quarterback Vinny Testaverde, Tampa Bay has the No. 1 overall pick in this year’s draft and desperately needs help at the quarterback position.

For the second straight mock draft, the Buccaneers select Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston over Oregon’s Marcus Mariota, and due to the chatter and conversations PewterReport.com had with NFL scouts, coaches and talent evaluators at both the East-West Shrine Game and the Senior Bowl, Winston is clearly the best and most NFL-ready quarterback in the 2015 NFL Draft.

After Winston, there are shake-ups at six out of the next seven spots in PewterReport.com’s 2015 Bucs’ 7-Round Mock Draft. Here is the round-by-round draft projection that focuses mostly on improving Tampa Bay’s offense.

ROUND 1 – Florida State QB Jameis Winston – 6-4, 230 – Redshirt Sophomore
Previous pick: Florida State QB Jameis Winston
The need for a franchise quarterback with the “It” factor and ability to go toe-to-toe with the likes of New Orleans’ Drew Brees, Carolina’s Cam Newton and Atlanta’s Matt Ryan twice a year in the NFC South division tops the list in Tampa Bay. Winston is that type of quarterback and has a track record of being a winner, evidenced by a 26-1 record at Florida State, winning the Heisman Trophy and the National Championship as a redshirt freshman.

Winston is widely regarded as the best pocket passer in the draft and would be an ideal fit for new offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, whose system relies on strong QB play from the pocket. Winston is one of the most clutch quarterbacks in college football, engineering five game-winning drives and he has a perfect 7-0 record in games decided by a touchdown or less, which is the typical NFL game. That type of play, and his pocket prowess, should make Winston the number one overall pick over

The Bessemer, Ala. native has completed over 65 percent of his passes for 7,964 yards with 65 touchdowns and 28 interceptions. Winston set an FBS freshman record with 40 touchdown passes in 2013 against just 10 picks. He has the intangibles, arm strength, mobility, ability to read defenses and go through progressions and a track record of having success early in his career that could make his transition to the NFL a quick and smooth one.

Winston has some off-field issues that have been investigated by the Buccaneers and will continue to be investigated by head coach Lovie Smith, general manager Jason Licht and the team’s scouts. The Bucs’ brass and the Glazers must agree that he has matured enough to lead the franchise and will continue to mature once given the millions of dollars that come with an NFL contract. Winston’s star power and the Seminoles fan base in the Tampa Bay area could give the Buccaneers’ ticket office the shot in the arm the team needs, which has to be appealing to the Glazers.

ROUND 2 – Utah DE Nate Orchard – 6-4, 255 – Senior
Previous Pick: Florida State OT Cameron Erving
If the Buccaneers didn’t have a desperate need for a franchise quarterback the team would take Nebraska defensive end Randy Gregory because of the need for an edge pass rusher. Erving was the pick in the second round of the first mock draft, but he’s likely to be a first-rounder now that Pittsburgh offensive tackle T.J. Clemmings stock is falling after a bad week at the Senior Bowl. The Bucs will have their choice of offensive linemen, such as Clemmings, Florida State guard Tre Jackson and Colorado State tackle Ty Sambrailo, but the draft is deep with offensive linemen and a little lighter on defensive ends, so Orchard is the pick.

Orchard finished the 2014 season as the second-leading sacker in the FBS with a school-record 18.5 sacks, and has brought down the likes of USC’s Cody Kessler, Oregon’s Marcus Mariota, Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson, Oregon State’s Sean Mannion, Stanford’s Kevin Hogan (three times) and UCLA’s Brett Hundley (four times). The 6-foot-4, 255-pounder has beaten the likes of Sambrailo, Arizona State’s Jamil Douglas and Stanford’s highly regarded tackle Andrus Peat – posting five sacks over the last two years against the Cardinal.

In addition to his 25 career sacks, Orchard finished his Utah career with 186 tackles, 38.5 tackles for loss, 10 pass breakups, eight forced fumbles and five fumble recoveries, including one for a touchdown against USC. Orchard dominated at the Senior Bowl and played a large part in making Clemmings look bad in practice. Tampa Bay needs a pass rusher capable of reaching double-digit sacks and the athletic Orchard, who was a former wide receiver, fills that need in the second round – if he slips past Tennessee, which has the 33rd overall pick and coached him in the Senior Bowl.

ROUND 3 – Kansas State WR Tyler Lockett – 5-10, 181 – Senior
Previous pick: Kansas State WR Tyler Lockett
Lockett brings tremendous value to Tampa Bay in the third round as a slot receiver and a return specialist capable of returning kicks and punts. The Bucs would be getting a speedy, playmaking, four-down player in the third round. Lockett finished his Kansas State career as the school’s all-time leading receiver with 249 catches for 3,710 yards and 29 touchdowns thanks to a tremendous senior campaign in which he caught 106 passes for 1,515 yards and 11 scores. Lockett’s father, Kevin, and uncle, Aaron, a Bucs’ seventh-round draft pick in 2002, starred at K-State as receivers, so he comes from great bloodlines.

Lockett could play the role that Atlanta’s Harry Douglas played in the slot in Dirk Koetter’s four-wide receiver set in Atlanta. The 5-foot-10, 181-pound Lockett is a similarly built quick receiver that can play both inside and outside. His big-play skill set is reminiscent of that of Pittsburgh’s Antonio Brown as Lockett, who starred during Senior Bowl week, had 17 100-yard games for the Wildcats, and had 16 receptions of 40 yards or more. No game was bigger than Lockett’s 12-catch, school-record 278-yard, three-touchdown performance against Oklahoma cornerback Aaron Colvin, who was projected to be a first-round pick before tearing his ACL last year at the Senior Bowl.

Lockett, who uses his tremendous route-running ability to create separation, can also help Tampa Bay’s special teams as a return specialist. He left Kansas State with six touchdowns in the return game, including four on kickoffs – including a pair of 100-yarders – and two on punts. His 19.1-yard punt return average led the FBS this year and he had three additional return touchdowns (two punt, one kickoff) that were negated due to penalties. The Bucs could use more speed in the return game and on offense and Lockett, who is expected to run in the 4.4-range, can help Tampa Bay.

ROUND 4 (from St. Louis) – Penn State OT Donovan Smith –6-5, 341 – Junior
Previous pick: Arizona State G Jamil Douglas
Because of the higher need for tackle as opposed to guard, the Bucs opt for Smith over Douglas in the fourth round. Smith surprised NFL scouts by leaving Penn State early and foregoing his senior season, but he graduated with a degree in criminology after just three and a half years. With 31 career starts at left tackle, Smith has plenty of experience, but has had bouts of inconsistency during his years with the Nittany Lions that make scouts think he would have been better off staying in school for one more year, especially in a draft deep with offensive tackles.

The 6-foot-5, 341-pound Smith has lapses in technique at times, but his inconsistency isn’t due to a lack of ability. The Owings Mill, Md. native didn’t even make the honorable mention list for the Big 10, but that speaks more about the talented offensive tackles in the conference than it does about any deficiencies in Smith’s game, and it doesn’t mean he won’t have a productive career in the NFL.

Smith opened plenty of eyes in the NFL at the Senior Bowl, and should be applauded for playing in the game as a graduated underclassman. He carries his weight well and is nimble-footed in both pass protection and in the run game. Smith has a nasty disposition on the field and loves to finish his opponents with pancake blocks. He is a highly competitive, aggressive lineman that has the size and skill set to play either left tackle or right tackle, which gives the Bucs a tremendous amount of versatility.

ROUND 5 – Northern Iowa RB David Johnson – 6-1, 224 – Senior
Previous pick: Norfolk State DE Lynden Trail
After an impressive week in Mobile, Ala., Trail will likely be gone by the fifth round, so the Bucs draft the best player available, which is Johnson. If Johnson had gone to an FBS school, he would be ranked as a second-round prospect. But after a great week at the Reese’s Senior Bowl, the UNI star rusher has seen his stock climb to the fifth round – and perhaps even higher. At 6-foot-1, 224 pounds, Johnson is a muscle-bound, three-down player with the capability to run through and run away from would-be tacklers, as well as the hands and receiving ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.

After rushing for 1,286 yards and 10 touchdowns as a junior, Johnson rushed for a career-high 1,553 yards and 17 touchdowns in 2014. The big, bruising running back amassed 15 100-yard games over the past two years and he’s done it against some FBS level teams. In a season-opening 28-20 upset over Iowa State in 2013, Johnson rushed for 199 yards and three touchdowns, including an 80-yarder. In this year’s 31-23 season-opening loss at Iowa, Johnson was held to 34 yards on 13 carries, but he did catch five passes for 203 yards, including a 53-yarder, a 60-yarder and a 70-yard touchdown.

Johnson, who is an excellent receiver with 76 catches for 929 yards and six touchdowns over the past two years, is extremely fast for a big back and has four career runs over 50 yards, including two over 70. Johnson had a nifty 19-yard touchdown run in the Reese’s Senior Bowl and was awarded as the best running back during the week of practice. His physical presence would be a great complement to Charles Sims in Tampa Bay’s backfield.

ROUND 5 (from Patriots) – USC LB Hayes Pullard – 6-0, 236 – Senior
Previous pick: USC CB Josh Shaw
Shaw has had a great postseason, impressing scouts at both the East-West Shrine Game and the Senior Bowl. That has elevated his stock past the fifth round. The Buccaneers are looking for a middle linebacker with great coverage skills and Pullard is a perfect fit, as he would often drop on defense in the pass-happy Pac-12 conference. Pullard appears to be slightly faster and played more in coverage than Clemson’s Stephone Anthony, so he gets the nod in the fifth round. Both inside linebackers had a great week at the Senior Bowl.

Pullard, a four-year starter with 51 career starts, led the Trojans in tackles in two out of the last three years. After starting his career as a weakside linebacker, Pullard was moved to the middle of the defense as a junior and thrived there over the past two seasons. He finished his USC career with 377 tackles, which ranks sixth in school history, along with 25.5 tackles for loss, 17 pass breakups, six sacks, three forced fumbles, three interceptions, including one for a touchdown and one fumble recovery.

Pullard is a very smart player and has tremendous leadership ability. Despite average size at 6-foot, 236 pounds, Pullard is capable of delivering some vicious hits and is a physical tackler. While he is a very good athlete, he’s more of a steady, consistent player than a flashy player, which means he would be a steal for the Buccaneers in the fifth round – especially if he starts during his rookie year. Pullard also brings great special teams value to Tampa Bay.

ROUND 6 (from St. Louis) – Memphis CB Bobby McCain – 5-10, 192 – Senior
Previous pick: South Dakota State RB Zach Zenner
McCain is a four-down player that can help Tampa Bay’s defense as well as its special teams as a gunner on punt coverage, in addition to kick coverage and kick return. With good size, toughness, intellect and quickness, McCain has the ideal skill set to play nickel corner in Tampa Bay and compete for the starting job as a rookie.

McCain was a fiery leader for Memphis and has great enthusiasm for football. As a four-year starter for the Tigers defense, McCain recorded 136 tackles, 15 pass breakups, 12 interceptions, including four for touchdowns, 6.5 tackles for loss, three fumble recoveries and a forced fumble. Eleven of McCain’s 12 career picks came over the last two seasons.

The first-team American Athletic Conference selection averaged 25.3 yards per kickoff and had a 95-yard return against Duke in 2012. McCain had a great week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game and is dangerous with the ball in his hands as a cornerback or a returner. The Bucs could find their starting nickel cornerback in the sixth round with the underrated McCain, which would be quite a coup.

ROUND 7 – Miami G Jon Feliciano – 6-4, 335 – Senior
Previous pick: Michigan State MLB Taiwan Jones
The Buccaneers get some more help along the offensive line with Feliciano, a three-year starter for the Hurricanes. Feliciano primarily started at left guard, but had two starts at right tackle and also saw some time at right tackle during his senior season. At 6-foot-5, 323 pounds, the Davie, Fla. native is a big, physical lineman and a nasty finisher.

Feliciano gets great push off the line in run blocking and is adept at pass protection, too. While he doesn’t look overly athletic, he can get to the ground with ease and take out the legs of defenders with chop blocks at the line of scrimmage or downfield on screen passes. Feliciano has the ability to develop as a starter in the NFL and could compete right away with Kadeem Edwards, a late-round pick last year, for playing time for the Buccaneers.

Feliciano, who had a very good week at the East-West Shrine Game in St. Petersburg, Fla., is very bright football player that graduated last May. He’s used to playing in the Florida heat and is well conditioned, which is important for linemen playing for Tampa Bay. Watch for Feliciano (No. 70) throwing blocks in these Duke Johnson highlights at left guard and right tackle.

Share On Socials

About the Author: Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: sr@pewterreport.com
Subscribe
Notify of
128 Comments
Oldest
Newest
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
1bucfanjeff
1bucfanjeff
6 years ago

2 OL in round 4 and 7? I just don’t see that happening so late. The Bucs will address the OL earlier.

1bucfanjeff
1bucfanjeff
6 years ago

What’s YOUR percentage the Bucs take a QB with the 1st overall pick? I hope 100% or dang close to it. Sources say….??

Horse
Horse
6 years ago

In your Mock Draft we are taking our need in Round 1 & 2 for a QB & DE; I’m fine with tose selections. The I would be taking OT and OG in rounds 3 & 4 as those are needs. The next need would be a LB or Safety for me. RB and WR can come at the bottom of the draft or even in Free Agency.

76Buc
76Buc
Reply to  Horse
6 years ago

You make sense Horse, alyhough I think they will get OL help from FA and do it right this time.

sunshineben
sunshineben
6 years ago

Great except… you didn’t pick the best qb in the first round…Don’t get your love for Winston.

Runole
Runole
Reply to  sunshineben
6 years ago

It is not love involved. It is that he is considered the best QB prospect since Luck and already possesses a better NFL skill set than any QB since Luck. 26-1 and all the incredible comebacks! WOW!

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  sunshineben
6 years ago

So you’d rather have the guy with the sprained ac joint? The one who’s getting cold feet about throwing at the combine? The one who is trying everything he can to drop so chip can grab him. I don’t get your love for mariotta. Yeah he’s a nice guy but that’s about it.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Cg- We know you love Winston but lets stop crtisizing Mariota to build your guy up, its cheap politics, try being objective and not bias it makes you more credible

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

We get it john, you like mariotta, so there no need to keep slamming winston, or responding to my posts for that matter.
And cheap polotics? reaching there aren’t we. ALl I present for Winston is facts, because they don’t fit your narrative, I don’t care.
Why don’t you focus on making factual arguments and not resot to attacking people, which seems to be your only answer for things. Again let me be clear, I don’t care what you think. And that’s a fact.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

CG – If you didn’t care what I thought you wouldn’t respond to me, you have already proven my opinion bothers you, lol

macabee
macabee
6 years ago

You know everybody’s got one…..an opinion, that is! So no need to be shy now. Besides, we’re just having fun here!

Macabee’s 2015 7 Round Mock Draft

ROUND 1 – QB Jameis Winston/ FSU – 6-4, 230

ROUND 2 – C/OT Cameron Erving/FSU – 6-5, 320

ROUND 3 – FS Cody Prewitt/OleMiss – 6-2, 220

ROUND 3 – (Trade for Glennon) WR Phillip Dorsett/UM

ROUND 4 – (St. Louis)) DE Lynden Trail/Norfolk St. – 6-6, 262

ROUND 5 (Trade up) – OG Jamil Douglas/ASU – 6-4, 301

ROUND 5 (Trade picks 6 & 7) RB David Johnson/NIU – 6-1,224

chefboho
chefboho
Reply to  macabee
6 years ago

Perfect mock macabee. I love love love this one. Phillip Dorset I’m the fourth would be a secret steal. THIS is the draft I want to see. Nice work

76Buc
76Buc
Reply to  macabee
6 years ago

I like your list macabee, but I don’t see a MLB?

macabee
macabee
Reply to  76Buc
6 years ago

76,
I’m guessing here, but I think Lansanah goes to MLB and Lovie brings in old man and former Bear, Lance Briggs at SLB on a 1 year contract.

kram0789
kram0789
6 years ago

I like Tyler Lockett, but without an offensive line skill players are wasted. Our third round pick has to be an offensive linemen.

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
6 years ago

I’m fine with the mock minus round 3. I would rather see us take Laken Tomlinson or Drummond the S from Michigan St with that pick.

e
e
6 years ago

That would be the best draft in years for the Bucs if that looked anything like the real thing. I would love the Bucs to pick up Denzel Perryman in the second if he slid. e

KINDERRT
KINDERRT
6 years ago

If we draft a RB then we should trade Martin and get more OLINE help with the pick.. We will be overstocked with RB’S and the only one to fetch a pick would be Martin. Would rather have Erving in the second or trade up for him if we draft Winston. Not a big fan of Locketts due to his size, I still remember hearing Jasksons knees banging together on kickoffs and he was a second rounder.

Runole
Runole
6 years ago

I am warming to Lockett and I am seeing what a valuable asset he would be in 4 wr sets. Would have no problem with those well thought out picks

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
6 years ago

This would be an outstanding draft if it happened like that. Great mock there pr. Although I would include a third rounder from a trade of glennon. That’s a dream mok there.

Iabucfan
Iabucfan
6 years ago

Johnson, from UNI, is a good pick. He’s a good player and a good young man. Go Bucs!

wolfet
wolfet
6 years ago

Sorry, I am not a fan of taking guys with premium picks that do not have the ability to grow into an elite receiver. I do not like Lockett that much. Yamon figures 2.0? I do like the first 2 picks, I wonder if we don’t trade down in round 2 with so many options and pick up another 3rd round pick?

jongruden
jongruden
6 years ago

Ok, I must say we are still in Jan and we have mock drafts on a weekly basis with the picks changing week to week to keep the “water cooler” talk going, only thing that won’t change apparently is Winston at the top as PR has a love fest going a long with CG. As Pink has said before things in mock drafts change when the combine and pro days start as well as personal workouts and interviews, I remember guys like Taylor Mays who was ok at USC who only had 4 int’s in his 3 or 4 yr… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Thanks for mentioning me .it makes me feel special. But you say Winston is a big risk like you already know he’s going to get into to trouble. The bigger risk is taking a qb with a sprained ac joint who can’t even throw at the combine. His chance to prove something and he’s alreayd getting cold feet, not surprising. And not everyone stays making mistakes, such as randy moss, cam newton and others. I can throw around names too. But you keep holding your breath for a guy who can’t evn take a snap from center. And remember after… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Cg- Most of the top qb’s in the past don’t go to the combine, we don;t even know if Mariota will be there or not he is still unsure, besides he will have his pro day so whats the difference?

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Randy Moss who clipped his nails during a Raiders Game Randy Moss, lol Cam Newton who Steve Smith blasted on sidelines over and over for not having a leadership mentailty Cam? yes, those guys exactly CG

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Your constant love fest for Winston is annoying and the way you down play all his incidents is ridiculous, so yes I get sucked back into talking to you, cause your like Rush Limbaugh who spouts off with no substance and its hard to ignore. I don’t think Winston sucks because I like Mariota I’m not playing your game, I just think Mariota is the better qb and so did the voters of college football as mariota won every award possible for a player this year, did Winston have a great yr two yrs ago? Yes, but he has regressed… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Your consonant love fest for Mariotta is what’s weak. And as for your analytics, there’s a reason no one can name a receiver for oregon, because the system allows you to be average and post monster stats. Luck had 18 pics this year, he must be terrible to you. Manning had 15, I know, he’s terrible. And these guys have legitimate nfl caliber receivers to throw to. But I know, mariotta only had four this year, so he’s better than both of them. And what does Eli have to do with anything? He’s mediocre in the pros as well as… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Eli mediocre in college? Eli drafted #1 also won two super bowls yes, he’s “mediocre”, lol Yes, in college 18 int’s is alot even guys who are sub par qb’s like Taylor Kelly have better stats than Winston, lol

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Since my hall of famers comparisons went right by your ear, I’ll say this to to you in the most elementary way possible the comparisons were for “CHARACTER” not ability again “CHARACTER” by moron

bollocks
bollocks
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

I’ve got to get my 2 cents in…Name a QB coming out of college eligible for the NFL draft,that has succeeded in the NFL, with the character concerns(red flags) that Winston has hanging over his head? I’m not saying Winston is guilty of rape but the woman that alleges that he did is still pursuing matters in the courts. So is Lovie going to draft Winston while the rape allegations are still in court? I don’t think the Glazers are going to OK drafting Winston after what the franchise went through with Freeman. I’m with Jon..I’d rather see them draft… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Well look again at the little guy at the keyboard. Name calling is the last act of a man that has no point to prove. Yet you keep proving how childish you are with every post.
And I got your point about character little man, my point was that those guys didn’t get into trouble after college. And went on to be successful.
Must’ve went over your little head.

scubog
scubog
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

JonnyG said it himself CG, “some people never mature.”

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Ben Rothlisberger was in trouble while in Pitts burgh lol, moron

e
e
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

I agree that players like Taylor Mayes and Jamarcus Russell shot up draft boards because of a sudden buzz at the combine. That happens every year with a couple of players. But, both Winston and Mariota don’t fall into that category. They are proven performers over multiple seasons. But, I don’t agree that seeing if Mariota can run backwards 5-7 steps erases the serious concerns of a spread QB converting to the pro game. Regarding character; What about Big Ben? Would you refuse to have him on your team because of his off the field concerns? e

kram0789
kram0789
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Very good points about Mariota and Winston. The other point I will make about Winston is does have Leaf like ego that will prevent him from improving and learning the pro game?

76Buc
76Buc
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Good points Chucky!

pinkstob
pinkstob
6 years ago

I’ll make two points. The first comes from this quote. “The Bucs’ brass and the Glazers must agree that he has matured enough to lead the franchise and will continue to mature once given the millions of dollars that come with an NFL contract.” When in the history of the NFL has anyone ever matured that quickly without having some type of major life event (e.g. loved one passing away)? In fact, who matures that much over the course of a few months even outside the NFL? Although Manziel and Winston are immature in different ways (Manziel never broke the… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

Matured that quickly? Thelast thing Winston did was shouting in Internet meme. I know that’s horrible and all, but he hasn’t done anything in almost a year. It’s not like he got in trouble yesterday. And as for the glazers, how do you know they don’t Kiel Winston? Maybe their tired of losing games and money evey year. And maybe Winston does checkout with them.only time will tell, but everyone writing if Winston already might be in for a surprise come draft day. Or they may not like him and then I look like and idiot, which is also possible… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Cgmaster27, people are writing it off now but I see arguing so aggressively with Jimbo Fisher during the playoff game as immature. No NFL QB does that with his HC in today’s NFL. So my reference to saying “months” is based on that. When the immaturity stopped and started is a matter of opinion but I haven’t read anywhere on the Internet yet where someone has vouched for Winston maturing off the field at all. If you have a link I will read it objectively.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

True Pink, but what you see as a problem, some see as competitive fire. I remember Tom brady pactically getting into a fistfight on the sideline one year with his offensive coordinator. I just want a QB that wants to lead and has fire. I am tired of these nice guys that amount to nothing. I want a QB that will get in a linemans face or a receivers face when they drop the ball. MAriotta is entirely too nice for me, just my opinion. As for the Winston maturity stuff, there won’t be much out there until after the… Read more »

chetthevette
chetthevette
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

The Glazers never lose money. They make a fortune even with a losing team. Also, Jon Gruden compared you to Rush Limbaugh. Those are fighting words.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  chetthevette
6 years ago

You are right about that chett, they do make a ton off of soccer, but all millionaires hate losing money. And I think the bucs have lost money the last couple I would assume with attendance being so bad. As for john I don’t sweat the small stuff.

e
e
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

Manziel is notorious for not practicing hard or doing his work in the film room and Winston is a hard worker in the film room and practice. e

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  e
6 years ago

Manziel was not notorious for that. He was notorious for showing up in photos with beers in his hand and pretty women under his arms and signing gear on camera which many just made excuses for as being a fun loving college student. His work ethic may have in question, but saying he was notorious for it is hindsight. He’s notorious for those things NOW.

e
e
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

Was he ever known as a hard practicing player & diligent film rat??? e

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  e
6 years ago

E, the answer to your question is no, but in the same breath no one ever said that he wasn’t a hard practicing player and diligent film rat. The subject never came up with Manziel. It’s not like his practice and film habits were well documented and people ignored it. Now, what will we be saying about Winston a year from now? If we are saying that he still has a lot of growing up to do (no matter what team he’s on) then it will be the heads of whichever team drafted him because he is notorious for that.

jongruden
jongruden
6 years ago

I would like to ask Scott Reynolds or Mark Cook if they are the least bit concerned about Winston staying out of trouble in Tampa? Just curious

Mark Cook
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

There is always some concern yes.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  Mark Cook
6 years ago

“some” is minimizing it don’t you think Mark? A lot would be more appropriate, its not like the guy did one thing he did several “knuckleheaded” things

Runole
Runole
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Define specifically what “A LOT”? means because other than some crab legs stolen, forgot to pay, or bad hookup, I have nothing.

Winston has no real off field issues that are of concern. Saw a picture of him recently with his girlfriend with some inspirational spiritual guy.

Unlike some, I don’t put a lot of faith in character assassination pieces that leave out critical facts to promote a false narrative.

salish_sea
salish_sea
Reply to  Runole
6 years ago

No real off-field issues of concern? Multiple rape accusations don’t concern you? You’re more inclined to believe poor little Jameis Winston was wrongly accused than believe the powers that be arranged to have things squashed. OK. Sure.

Runole
Runole
Reply to  Runole
6 years ago

salish_sea, What multiple rapes? That is the problem you are stating things that aren’t true. Has nothing to do with whether I believe Jameis or not. I trust the TPD and the criminal justice system after the City of Tallahassee and State of Florida that stated there was no cover up or malfeasance by them. That is good enough for me. That most certainly trumps any accusation that there was a cover up or that the case wasn’t handled appropriately. If that were the case than there would be a Civil lawsuit against the TPD and it would filed long… Read more »

scubog
scubog
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Ever hear of Bret Favre and his drinking prowess?

jongruden
jongruden
6 years ago

If you have concern then why would you risk the future of the franchise on a guy you can’t trust staying out of trouble? Mariota only concern to “some” is that he for some reason can’t take a snap under center or throwing out of a 5-7 step drop, why would you rather gamble on taking the “risky character” guy over a guy who has zero risk character and has to prove to some he can handle a snap?

e
e
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

There’s more to converting a spread system QB to a pro system QB than “handling a snap.” e

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  e
6 years ago

e- Who says we won’t run a spread system, does anyone know this answer?

e
e
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

True… I guess the Bucs are up for running any system, but chances are, the words “spread system” and Lovie Smith will never be said in the same breath.

kram0789
kram0789
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

I think one thing we can say about Mariota and Winston is that neither are “Andrew Luck.” I am not in love with either and would trade down.

jongruden
jongruden
6 years ago

Nate Orchard is more of a OLB in a 3-4 instead of a 4-3 DE, He is slight in build at 255 lbs so he is a fit in TB

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

He is NOT a fit I mean

bollocks
bollocks
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Jon…I agree with your assessment of Orchard and agree totally with what you are saying about Winston. It will come down to what Mariota does at the combine and or his pro-day. If he can show that he can make the throws while working from under center and impresses in his interviews he has to be the 1st pick. If not I’d rather see Lovie either trade down or pick Williams.

Horse
Horse
6 years ago

All I know is we need a QB because neither one on the Roster right now are starters. We either get one in the Draft or via a Trade.
After watching Mariota in the Ohio State game I have questions about him like I had with Winston. Based on our new OC , QB Coach, Head Coach, and GM; I see us taking Winston. He will work the best with the Dunkaneers.

KINDERRT
KINDERRT
6 years ago

There is already talk of Mariota falling in the draft. The reports say he could fall as far as ten (hard to believe) they say once the team’s dig into his film. Winston I believe is a solid first pick you just have to overlook his off field problems. Many players have come into the NFL with problems and many become problems. We have had our fair share and so will every other team going forward.To pass on an elite QB talent for some off field concerns is foolish. He has no major crimes, the most serious is the rape… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  KINDERRT
6 years ago

Kinderrt- After watching these two guys after 5 yrs you may look back and laugh at what you just said

KINDERRT
KINDERRT
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

What part is that Jon, only said is what’s out there about your man Mariota falling in the draft or was there something else you don’t agree with?

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  KINDERRT
6 years ago

“I would rather take a chance on a top talent QB maturing then a lower talented QB maybe being able to transition to the NFL in two or more years” Its funny to me because I think Winston will be in the headlines for the wrong reason and Mariota will be the guy we let get away

bollocks
bollocks
Reply to  KINDERRT
6 years ago

Name me a {QB} coming out of college that has the character concerns(red flags), that has succeeded in the NFL, that Winston has. You can name numerous prospects that have had those concerns that have succeeded but you can’t name one QB.Winston to me seems as if he has a disconnect between his ears and is going to self destruct when he gets all his money and the pressure cooker that is the NFL gets to him.

ColoradoBuc
ColoradoBuc
6 years ago

Is this the Red Board? Seems like several different threads are being addressed at the same time…

Bucko40
Bucko40
6 years ago

Still on the Winston bandwagon eh SR. Great way to drum up site traffic. Have you ever done a Mock without a KState player in it? Can’t wait to see the reasoning you guys write when the Bucs take Mariota.

salish_sea
salish_sea
6 years ago

Still a mystery to me how easily people are willing to dismiss the rape accusations. Winston has behaved like a piece of dung, even if he’s cleared of criminal charges. I just can’t forget those problems easily, and won’t be rooting for Winston even if the Bucs draft him.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  salish_sea
6 years ago

Salish_sea- They dismiss it because just like the Michael Jackson Fans out there he wasn;t convicted so therefore he is innocent and will not believe it to be true, loyalty is stronger than the truth just ask Scott Peterson’s mom who believes her son is innocent as well

Runole
Runole
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

He wasn’t even charged or arrested. Using the word convicted is in very poor taste and just not factual.

As stated above the City of Tally and State of Florida found no cover up or malfeasance by the TPD.

That ends it unless you feel guys like Brian Banks and the Duke Lacrosse team deserve to be in jail.

Scott Peterson? Good Lord!

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  salish_sea
6 years ago

It’s not easily dismissed at all. But to the people that have read the reports for themselves and not seen what espn headlines read like have good reason to be skeptical of her allegations.

scubog
scubog
Reply to  salish_sea
6 years ago

Because an “accusation” isn’t a conviction in this country.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  scubog
6 years ago

No, its because people fail to believe the victim instead of their qb. Do you think FSU Fans would think he is innocent if he weren’t the heisman winning and national championship qb and Jameis Winston a regular African American guy in Florida?, HA

Runole
Runole
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Ever hear of Greg Dent? He was a starting Wr for FSU charged and arrested for Rape. I saw no outrage from FSU fans when that happened? Once again your assertion fails miserably.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  Runole
6 years ago

Don’t try to talk sense and facts to this guy Runole, I think he’s a little senile and randomly wakes up at his computer, spouts nonsense, and then falls back asleep. He’ll push your facts aside as bias because he has no facts of his own. And then probably just call you a name and not respond anymore.

scubog
scubog
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Because the evidence and multiple hearings didn’t believe her either. Nothing to do with being a fan. It has to do with believing the basic premiss of “innocent until “proven” (not accused) guilty. I know you live out west JonnyG but I think lynchings without fair trial are still frowned upon and the crowd outside who fails to recognize the results of said trial don’t get to take matters into their own hands and hang the guy anyway. What does race have to do with it?

Bucmeister
Bucmeister
6 years ago

Neither QB is deserving of overall #1. Both have to many red flags to be overall #1. Both have been pushed up the draft board because of weak QB class and weak free agent QBs. Both should be mid first round.

georgehicks
georgehicks
6 years ago

i THINK THAT DRAFT REPORT ON WHAT TAMPA WOULD DO. BUT WHAT IF TAMPA GOT ANOTHER PICK IN RD-2 AND ANOTHER DRAFT PICK IN RD-3 WITH TAMPA TRADING TAMPA B’U QB AND RB MARTIN. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT TAMPA COULD DO WITH THOSE EXTRA PICKS. EXAMPLE TAMPA WOULD HAVE RD-1 1 PICK, RD-2 2 PICKS RD-3 2 PICKS RD-4 1 PK, RD-5 2 PICKS; RD-6 1 PK AND RD-7 ONE PICK. IF TAMPA WAS ABLE TO GET TWO EXTRA PICKS IN THOSE EARLY ROUNDS. THEY WOULD BE BACK A LOT QUICKER. TAMPA COULD SELECT A WHOLE BUNCH OF FSU PLAYERS… Read more »

Bucmeister
Bucmeister
6 years ago

How both QBs fare will be determined by where they go. Either one can be successful if placed in the right circumstance, or either may fail if in the wrong circumstance. Both QBs are probably dreading coming to the Bucs, as with the Jets, historically we are where QBs go to die. Our head coach is not known for being a developer of QBs or for that matter offenses.

e
e
6 years ago

Maybe the Bucs hire Derrick Brooks as a “Quality Control” consultant who meets with Winston to mentor him after he is drafted? e

BuccanAy
BuccanAy
6 years ago

yes…I think winston has the potential to be a good QB,but you guys dont even MENTION the reasons he may be a ticking time bomb, and has certainly not demonstrated they type of character you’d like to have in THE 1st overall pick in the draft…it’s seems as those concerns don’t even exist. It’s bizarre, quite honestly, and wouldnt be a Pr mock with a Kstate guy in top 3…..jeez

Garv
Garv
6 years ago

After today’s news on the Sundance film, The Hunting Ground, the name and face of Jameis Winston’s accuser and hearing of the abuse she took for daring to speak out? I think the question is are the Buccaneers going to draft Marcus Mariota or trade down? Fair or unfair, I do not think the Buccaneers can afford the dark cloud that will come with Winston.

e
e
Reply to  Garv
6 years ago

I think The Hunting Ground is a documentary paid for by the owners of the Saints, Falcons and Panthers. e

cremdonado
cremdonado
6 years ago

‘The Hunting Ground’ is a documentary on the issue of rape and sexual assaults on college campuses~NOT JUST THE WINSTON ACCUSATION. Winston’s story is currently the the most publicized and is a perfect way to advertize the documentary makers are hoping to sell at Sundance.Winstons current media profile is filling seats and helping sell the documentary that might have been overlooked had it not been for his accusers presence in the documentary…This isnt solely about him…Are we doing our own thinking or allowing the media to make up our minds for us? Since none of us were present the night… Read more »

Horse
Horse
6 years ago

Once I read some of the court records I got passed the so called rape because it didn’t happen. I was focus on Winston and didn’t like what I saw about his throwing motion versus the season before. I still believe it was the baseball season that screwed him up. If he comes to the combine and shows he has corrected that motion then I am all for drafting him. Mariota has a quick release, but he is not ready to start in the NFL unless he goes to Philly. The Ohio State game exposed his weaknesses. Just my opinion.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  Horse
6 years ago

Horse better watch about those comments. You’ll be crucified for actually thinking for yourself by John. I’ve read the repeat as well and it’s clear as day what didn’t happen.
As for winstons motion I think it was a sorry on here a day or so back I posted a link of his work in sandiego. He’s quickened his release and he doesn’t drop it down to his waiste like a baseball.
Here’s the link again for you too look at. http://www.thebaycave.com/video-of-winston-working-on-his-mechanics/

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Just so everyone is aware, now that Mariota’s AC joint has healed in his throwing shoulder he is also out in San Diego training with Kevin O’Connell and Ryan Flaherty of Prolific Athletes. Again, he hurt his throwing shoulder in the 4th quarter and returned in the same series in the national championship. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24993415/nfl-draft-injury-could-keep-mariota-from-throwing-at-combine

matador
matador
6 years ago

If we aren’t going to address the OL problem through the draft, we might as well start McCown next year and then play Glennon once McCown goes down. RB? WR? We did that already. A better OL makes our B/C level RBs into B+/C+ and the reason you pay VJax is to avoid spending a pick on the position this year. A better OL keeps our QB upright. A better OL keeps our D off the field. A better OL helps special teams win the field position game. It would be nice if PR was helping to direct the debate,… Read more »

Bucnut2
Bucnut2
6 years ago

I am convinced we will draft neither QB. I think the Bucs have leaked interest in Winston through various channels, ie this site, Charlie Campbell etc…In the coming weeks i suspect we will hear, likely through other sources, that they favor Mariota. All of this to drive up the value of the pick. We’ll trade down and have Koetter coach up Glennon for a few years. Probably wishful thinking on my part but I dont liek either of these QB’s. And PR guys, sorry but if Winston played at Ohio State you all would be much enthusiastic about him. It’s… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  Bucnut2
6 years ago

I do think it’s funny that because someone is a better prospect, and Winston is , it’s bias to some people. Maybe perhaps some of us just like the better qb. Maybe you all can’t see through the fact that you just don’t kike Winston. Which is fine you are entitled to that. But because others like him, it doesn’t make it automatically biased.

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Keep in mind there are those of use who believe Mariota is the better prospect, even if the off field stuff is excluded. I said before and I want to be clear that I bring up the off field stuff with Winston and then in the same breath I always reference the Glazers. Given their track history with actions levied bad press players and the attention the QB garners they are the ones that will pass on Winston due to this off field issues. I want us to pass on Winston because Mariota is the better player and even the… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

That should read, “..actions levied AGAINST bad press players…”.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

See pink my friend, the better leader part is where I significantly disagree with you. DId you see him on the sidelines when theyr were getting routed in the champioinship game? Helmet on, standing by himself. That’s not a leader to me. Same thing when winston’s noles were getting blown out , what was he doing? He had all of his offensive players in a huddle talking to them to finish strong and no matter what he loved playing with them. Huge difference there. Mariotta has never shown leadership that I’ve seen and I’ve watched a couple of games from… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

No problem Cgmaster27. It’s just a difference in how we view leadership. Both with what Mariota did in the national championship and what Winston did in the game against Oregon in terms of leadership…neither course of action had a noticeable effect on the offense or the outcome of the game. Peyton Manning leads by example, sits by himself after a drive and is a nice guy. Most NFL QB’s are nice guys. ALL Super Bowl winning QB’s are mature guys. The last immature QB to win the Super Bowl was Joe Namath. The type of mean streak leadership you are… Read more »

Bucnut2
Bucnut2
6 years ago

Much less

cremdonado
cremdonado
6 years ago

Horse~ Im with you on the throwing motion~too much baseball windup in it~but,it can be worked on and hopefully will be worked…Since his focus is now just football,maybe he will work the kinks out… Mariota has my brain pickled…He has an awesome skill set BUT came from the spread…His numbers are thru the roof,but its also due to the system he played…He has zip on the ball but accuracy isnt all that great(it can be worked on).If drafted by Tampa,he will be forced into service too soon which will likely hamper his development~especially if we continue our losing ways.With a… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  cremdonado
6 years ago

Here you go creme, same video I posted above to horse. He’s definitely working on his release. Looks like he’s lost a few pounds as well.
http://www.thebaycave.com/video-of-winston-working-on-his-mechanics/

cremdonado
cremdonado
6 years ago

and if the wolves tear him(winston) apart~all those folks who got off chanting ‘no means no’ will have more trash to talk and Tampa just continues what they always do~botch drafts,change coaches like underwear and solidly underwelm!!!

Bucmeister
Bucmeister
6 years ago

Winston standing in the pocket is just as vulnerable as Mariota. Online Online Online.

Bucmeister
Bucmeister
6 years ago

Auto correct. O-line

deeznuts
deeznuts
6 years ago

It is too early to be projecting mock drafts to be taken this seriously. We need to see pro days, combine, interviews, and assess a free agency plan. Lets be honest, even if Winston did live up to his potential-it would never be worth the #1 pick in the draft. With that said, I’m not sure Mariota would either (even though I would agree he has superior athleticism, mechanics, and scheme awareness vs. winston). ive said it previously- I think LT B. Scherff is our best option if we cannot trade down. The fact of the matter is any QB… Read more »

sunshineben
sunshineben
6 years ago

NOOO Winston !!..NOT the best qb in the draft and NOT a great person to be the face of the bucs.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  sunshineben
6 years ago

WARNING, WARNING!!!! Sunshineben is a non Winston supporter we “CGMASTER” to come to his defense this is not a drill I repeat this is not a drill, lmao

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

You know when you put lol and lmao on your comments, it makes you look like a 12 year old girl on Facebook? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, yours just has no facts to back it up so you resort to the grade school name calling. I am merely putting facts against your opinions and making you look more foolish by the post.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

Facts like 24 td’s and 18 int’s to Mariota’s 40 td’s and 3 int’s those kind of facts?, lol and lmao

scubog
scubog
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

A lot of QB’s had glowing college statistics but weren’t NFL material. Many resided in Gainesville.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

You compared Winston stats to Peyton stats, well here is another FACT Winston played in 5 less regular season games on schedule than NFL Players and the FACT Manning threw 39 td’s and 15 int’s isn’t even in the same ball park as pedestrian stats that Winston had 24 td’s and 18 int’s so if your going to use examples of fellow NFL Players use Colin Kapernick at least the stats are more comparable

chefboho
chefboho
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Comparing a quarterback which as denarius Thomas (one of the top WR’S IN THE LEAGUE) Julius Thomas ( most Td’s the last two years by any The) and emmanual sanders to jamises war’s is just silly. Winston could have those stats with that group of studs

chefboho
chefboho
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Comparing a quarterback which has demarius Thomas (one of the top WR’S IN THE LEAGUE) Julius Thomas ( most Td’s the last two years by any Te) and emmanual sanders to jamises wr’s is just silly. Winston could have those stats with that group of studs

Runole
Runole
Reply to  sunshineben
6 years ago

Brian Banks doesn’t care for you and your opinion because it is people’s opinions like yours that put him in jail.

sunshineben
sunshineben
6 years ago

bucs don’t need Winston as he is not the best qb or the best man for the face of our favorite nfl team

fredster
fredster
6 years ago

Taking a WR before fixing the biggest em weakness the O line? Stupid. Still have needs on defense too that I don’t see being addressed. Fix the o line our RB and WR situation is fine! Don’t know if I feel better about Winston or Mariotta. Leaning towards Winston. Neither is a slam dunk IMO. So many arguments and passion about this cracks me up. Everyone has it all figured out and knows more than the professionals and scouts. Lol. Hope they make right decisions they are due…..

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
6 years ago

This entire thread, and about 50% of the threads published on the Bucs in the last few months, are precisely why I now really don’t want us to draft Winston…I want to come to PR to talk football, Bucs, Superbowls, etc….not to constantly (and it will be constantly) talk about Winston’s off-field issues, whether he did or did not rape someone, whether he does or does not deserve a fifth(teenth) chance, whether his appearance in the bar last night is more noteworthy than his play in the uniform, and so on and so on…give me Mariota and let me talk… Read more »

Horse
Horse
6 years ago

EastEndBoy; If I had a say with this team I would first try to find a QB via a trade for a 4th round pick and below. I would focus on Rounds 1,2,3, with other positions of need. I don’t think either one of these QB’s will make much difference this year. We still have a lot of needs to fill.

e
e
6 years ago

EastEndBoy, love the ducked feathered glasses that you see this debate through. Winston’s fifteenth chance? Really? Can’t spell BiaS without BS. Here’s how I see Mariota’s rookie season going (if not drafted by the Eagles)… All of that talk about how he’ll need to sit never pans out with a team that doesn’t already have a Pro-Bowl QB… So, he’s thrown into the fire. “This pocket is small!”… RUN!!! “Oh, so… most guys on the defense run 4.4? Doink. OK, TIME TO PASS… “Where are the windows? All of these guys are covered?” … RUN!!! Doink. “Fans in Tampa boo?”…… Read more »

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  e
6 years ago

“duck-feathered glasses”…good one. And yes, I think my whole post was about bias – I don’t think I hid that, I think it was precisely what I wrote…I am biased to having a QB that allows all of these posts about whether Winston is on his fifth or fifteenth chance to stop…and that QB by definition is not Winston…if the world unfolds so brutally for the Bucs as you project, I would still rather be discussing the “windows” and the “running” and the “booing fans” and the “matador cartoons” (ala Cam Newton), than reading about Winston and his off-field past… Read more »

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  EastEndBoy
6 years ago

and you won’t get “shoulda, coulda, woulda from” me for passing on Winston, no matter how good or bad MM winds-up performing….but I guarantee you will get “shoudla, coulda, woulda” from me the first time PR lights-up with reports about Winston doing something off the field and post after post is all about his (fill in the blank) moment instead of about football…

Buctebow
Buctebow
6 years ago

I think a) the Bucs will win more games this year if they trade down and don’t draft a QB, but get a FA like Hoyer. b) trading down will get them at least one 1st round pick next year that they could use to trade up and get a QB then, or the following year potentially. I don’t see a run at the playoffs for a few years, so it makes sense to me to actually fiel a team that wins some games and develops.

georgehicks
georgehicks
6 years ago

Well guys I have agree with picks But here is my picks according to the top 400 players. Right now 1.QB Jameis Winston,2(34)Oc/Lot Cam Erving,Fsu;3(65)CB Pj Williams Fsu;4(106)Dt Gabe Wright,Auburn;5(154)TE Jean Sifrin(UMass;5(160)OLB34 Deion Barnes Psu;6(168)OT Austin Shepherd Bama and 7(194)RB Josh Robinson-Miss St. I’d say this can you Imagine if tampa gets draft choices for Martin and Glenn that is a WIN WIN sistutation go bucs.GLH HB PLANT 64,

georgehicks
georgehicks
6 years ago

Here is George Hicks Again -Iam so sick about not getting Winston to Bucs.I’d say get him. Some of these fans are says don’t get winston they may be watching another NFL team. I’d say fans do this. Right now go with your gut feelings and stick with it, Remember fans, Teams make big mistakes and choose the wrong player. Get Hoyer along with winston to be teach the correct with a regular QB coach.If We have Hoyer He can step in early and bring in Winston a little at a time. Hoyer will be only a temp fix. But… Read more »

georgehicks
georgehicks
6 years ago

I’d decided to look at the moch 2 draft picks I’d say get every one of them. But Trade RB Martin and QB Glen and another 2016 draft choice to get cameron erving to play for the bucs.Why not Tampa has the salary cap espically if they getting rid of certain players from last year.Tampa would be building for the future.Again I say Trade back into the 2nd Round for RB Martin,QB Glenn and Tampa bay 3rd Rounder in 2016. Look at the $$ figures.They get rid of two players with salary cap money. Plus they get another starter. Draft… Read more »

georgehicks
georgehicks
6 years ago

AGAIN AFTER jAMEIS WINSTON I’D WOULD SELECT OC FROM FSU.GO BUCS