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Bucs general manager Jason Licht and director of college scouting Mike Biehl have been to the East-West Shrine Game, the Senior Bowl and the NFL Scouting Combine and are working on setting up Tampa Bay’s 2016 draft board with fresh information gathered from pro day workouts in March and April. It would come as no surprise to see Licht, Biehl, director of player personnel John Spytek, head coach Dirk Koetter and the Bucs scouts and coaches will focus heavily on defense in the 2016 NFL Draft after using all but one selection on offensive players over the last two years.
There are needs to be addressed along the defensive line, especially at defensive tackle, safety, defensive end and cornerback as well as at linebacker. Tampa Bay has the ninth overall selection – the fourth top 10 pick in the last five years – and Licht will likely use it on a defensive lineman or a top-flight cover cornerback. Koetter may want to add some depth and speed at wide receiver, or possibly a developmental offensive tackle on Day 3.
PewterReport.com offers up the fifth Bucs’ round-by-round draft projection in 2016, focusing mostly on improving Tampa Bay’s defense. PewterReport.com’s 2016 Bucs 7-Round Mock Draft is sponsored by Holliday Karatinos Law Firm. Call attorney Jim Holliday for a free consultation at (813) 868-1887 or visit them on the web at HelpingInjuredPeople.com
ROUND 1 (9) – Louisville DT Sheldon Rankins – 6-1, 299 – Junior
Rankins stays atop PewterReport.com’s 2016 Bucs’ 7-Round Mock Draft for a third straight mock draft. Why draft a defensive tackle with the ninth overall selection when the Bucs already have a Pro Bowler in Gerald McCoy? This pick might comes as a surprise to most Bucs fans, but defensive tackle is the strongest position in this draft and the Bucs are poised to grab the best prospect. It also aligns with the Bucs’ biggest need. Great three-technique defensive tackles like Rankins, who compares favorably to Pro Bowler Geno Atkins, who was coached by new defensive line coach Jay Hayes in Cincinnati, are hard to find, and typically go in the first round.
The selection of Rankins comes after assuming that players like Florida State defensive back Jalen Ramsey, Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa and Notre Dame offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley are all off the board. Before we address the reason why the Bucs would draft Rankins, let’s explore why they wouldn’t draft Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves, Eastern Kentucky defensive end Noah Spence or Clemson defensive end Shaq Lawson.
Hargreaves is a very good cover corner, but at 5-foot-10 with 4.5 speed he lacks ideal size and ability to play outside in the NFL, especially in a division like the NFC South that features monster receivers in Atlanta’s Julio Jones and Carolina’s Kelvin Benjamin and Devon Funchess twice a year. The Bucs aren’t going to spend a top 10 pick on a 5-foot-10 cornerback that is better suited to play in the slot. If they are going to draft a cornerback in the top 10 it might be Ohio State’s Eli Apple or Houston’s Will Jackson instead of Hargreaves.
As for Spence and Lawson, both are very good but not great defensive ends. Neither is a Khalil Mack- or Von Miller-caliber player, and if either of those players were in the draft Spence and Lawson would be late first-rounders. Spence has a checkered past due to drug usage and didn’t interview particularly well at the Combine. He may be too risky to use the ninth overall pick on. As for Lawson, he’s not a quick-twitch athlete. He’s a slightly more athletic version of Adrian Clayborn and benefitted greatly playing opposite defensive end Kevin Dodd last year. Both Spence and Lawson are first-round talents, but not top 10 talents. If the Bucs are going to draft a defensive end in the top 10 it might very well be Dodd.
Rankins is the top-rated 4-3, one-gap defensive tackle in the draft. While the Bucs already have McCoy, drafting Rankins gives them another disruptive interior pass rusher and insurance at the three-technique in case he gets injured. New defensive coordinator Mike Smith had a pair of Pro Bowl defensive tackles in Marcus Stroud and John Henderson in Jacksonville, and St. Louis spent a first-round pick on defensive tackle Aaron Donald in 2014 just two years after drafting defensive tackle Michael Brockers in the first round in 2012. It’s not unheard of for a team to have two talented defensive tackles, and Rankins has the traits to be special.
While he’s not the athletic freak that Donald is, Rankins is nearly 15 pounds bigger and plays with more power. Rankins capped off his Louisville career with some dominant practices at the Senior Bowl where Rankins put on a clinic in one-on-one pass rush drills. Rankins performed well in Indianapolis, running a respectable 5.03 in the 40-yard dash at 299 pounds with a 1.74 10-yard split. The Cardinals star defender showed explosion at the Combine with a great 34.5-vertical leap, a 9-10 broad jump and a 7.44 three-cone drill. Rankins’ strength was also on display in Indianapolis where he benched 225 pounds 28 times, which was one of the highest totals among defensive linemen.
Yet it’s Rankins’ production at Louisville combined with his athleticism that makes him a special talent. Rankins had 133 tackles, 31.5 tackles for loss, 18 sacks, three forced fumbles, two interceptions and two fumble recoveries, including one he returned 46 yards for a touchdown against Boston College last year, in his Cardinals career. Rankins had 13.5 tackles for loss, eight sacks, two interceptions, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery as a junior, and finished his college career with 13 tackles for loss, six sacks and a fumble recovery for a score last year.
Rankins has experience playing in a 3-4 and a 4-3 scheme at Louisville and has played all over the line from a five-technique defensive end – where he was miscast – to a three-technique to a one-technique in a 4-3 and a zero-technique nose tackle in a 3-4. It’s that versatility, his incredibly quick hands and his suddenness that makes Rankins worthy of a top 10 pick. With Clinton McDonald coming off a season-ending pectoral injury, Akeem Spence entering a contract year and Henry Melton and Tony McDaniel likely departing via free agency, defensive tackle could very well be a considered a need in Tampa Bay. (Warning: the following highlight video contains profanity)
Previous Pick: Louisville DT Sheldon Rankins
ROUND 2 (39) – Ohio State S Vonn Bell – 5-11, 199 – Junior
Tampa Bay has the chance to draft the top safety available near the top of the second round, and that’s the playmaking Bell, who won a national championship at Ohio State. While West Virginia’s Karl Joseph and Florida’s Keanu Neal are very good safeties and would look good in red and pewter, Bell is the best safety in this year’s draft class and isn’t afraid to say so.
“I really feel that way,” Bell said at the NFL Scouting Combine. “I really do. I am the best safety in this class. Leader, n-the-field coach, I feel like I have the whole package. Preparation. I just wanted to be that guy to make the play for the team — be that spark. Provide that energy. Get my guys going. And when you have that spark, you’re steamrolling downhill and everybody starts making plays. You’re out there celebrating with your teammates, your brothers. You just want to be that guy who provides that energy. And it’s all off preparation and constant film study. Knowing your opponent. Know what type of routes they run, know what type of ball the quarterback throws.”
At 5-foot-11, 199 pounds, Bell has Earl Thomas size and Earl Thomas-like instincts and production, too. Bell has come up big in some of Ohio State’s biggest games, such as the Orange Bowl where he had seven tackles and a highlight interception as a freshman in a win over Clemson. In 2014, Bell had 92 tackles, six interceptions and six pass breakups. Last year as a junior, Bell had 65 tackles, nine pass breakups and two interceptions and was lauded by his coaches at Ohio State as one of the team’s most sure tacklers.
Bell’s biggest appeal is his versatility. He has experience at both safety positions as well as the nickel cornerback spot. Bell has enough speed and physicality to cover big receivers, small receivers, tight ends and backs out of the backfield. Bell is such a heady player that he is rarely out of position.
Tampa Bay secondary coach Jon Hoke was at the Ohio State pro day to see Bell, fellow safety Tyvis Powell and cornerback Eli Apple. Bell also has a pre-draft visit scheduled with the Buccaneers, so there is a strong interest in him.
By drafting Bell, the Bucs are getting a starting caliber player that can come in and compete for a starting job at the safety position right away with Chris Conte and Bradley McDougald. Both Conte and McDougald are only signed through 2016 and Bell could provide some long-term stability and playmaking at either safety spot.
Previous Pick: Notre Dame WR Will Fuller
ROUND 3 (74) – Ohio State WR Braxton Miller – 6-1, 201 – Senior
In the third round the Buccaneers go back to Ohio State and grab another talented player with big-game experience and a championship on his resume. Miller is a tremendous competitor, who began his Buckeyes career as the team’s starting quarterback before a shoulder injury forced him to miss the entire 2014 and cost him his starting job. Miller switched to wide receiver during his rehab period and was Ohio State’s fourth-leading pass catcher in 2015 with 26 catches for 341 yards and three touchdowns. He also had 260 yards and a touchdown on 42 carries from the backfield.
The Bucs spoke with Miller extensively at the Senior Bowl where he showed tremendous quickness and the ability to separate from defenders. While his technique suffers from a lack of experience and repetition, the fact that he has played the quarterback position and read defenses should ease his transition and make it quicker – even at the NFL level.
Miller could be an intriguing all-purpose weapon for Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter, who has quite an imagination. Miller could be used situationally on end arounds, bubble screens, as a deep threat and as a Wildcat quarterback during his rookie season while learning from the likes of veterans Vincent Jackson and Louis Murphy.
Miller ran a 4.36 in the 40-yard dash and has blazing speed and elusiveness that could not only help him as a receiver, but also a return specialist, which is where he’s also been working out during the offseason. If Tampa Bay is truly hot on the prospect of drafting Miller, general manager Jason Licht might have to trade up into the second round to get him.
Previous Pick: LSU LB Deion Jones
ROUND 4 (108) – Grand Valley State DE Matt Judon – 6-3, 275 – Senior
Judon had an incredibly productive college career, dominating smaller school competition with 20 sacks in 2015 to lead all of college football in addition to 23.5 tackles for loss and 81 tackles and three forced fumbles. He had 34 career sacks at Grand Valley State, including 8.5 as a junior with four forced fumbles.
He was invited to the East-West Shrine Game, but was unable to participate due to a tweaked knee. Yet Judon, who overcame a torn ACL injury in 2013, was healthy enough to run a blazing 4.73 in the 40-yard dash, in addition to a 35-inch vertical. Judon showed off his strength with 30 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press.
Buccaneers defensive line coach Jay Hayes was at Grand Valley State for Judon’s pro day. While Judon needs to refine his technique, but he has a high motor, great size and speed, and tremendous body lean in getting around offensive tackles as an edge rusher. Tampa Bay had success drafting a small school prospect last year in Hobart College’s Ali Marpet, and they’ll find another small school success story in Judon, who can be groomed behind Robert Ayers and Jacquies Smith.
Previous Pick: BYU DE Bronson Kaufusi
ROUND 5 (148) – Samford CB James Bradberry – 6-1, 211 – Senior
Aside from Rankins, Bradberry is the only remaining player from PewterReport.com’s last mock draft. Bradberry is a big, fast cornerback with a nice vertical jump (36 inches) and long arms (33 3/8 inches). He ran a 4.50 at the NFL Scouting Combine, with a blazing fast 1.53 in the 10-yard split. Bradberry earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl where he showed he could hang with FBS receivers, but needs some time to develop and transition his game to face better competition.
Bradberry has four interceptions and 15 pass breakups over the past two years, including 11 in 2015. As a four-year starter, Bradberry totaled eight picks and 27 pass breakups. He’s a very aggressive defender with his hands, especially in press-man coverage, although he needs to improve his foowork. Bradberry can also function very well in zone coverage.
Some NFL teams believe he could transition to play safety at the next level and he should be a solid special teams contributor early in his rookie career given his measurables. Bradberry is good in run support and could be drafted as a developmental corner, learning from the likes of Brent Grimes, Johnthan Banks and Alterraun Verner for a year or two.
Previous Pick: Samford CB James Bradberry
ROUND 6 (183) – Georgia Southern LB Antwione Williams – 6-3, 245 – Senior
Williams has been worked out privately by Buccaneers linebackers coach Mark Duffner and Tampa Bay will likely have a keen interest in his pro day workout, which takes place on Monday, April 6. If he runs a 4.6 or better Williams will certainly be considered as a Day 3 option for Tampa Bay.
Williams is a big, fast linebacker with hard-hitting ability. He played the Buck linebacker position for the Eagles, which is the strongside linebacker position. He tallied 205 tackles in three years on the field at Georgia Southern, including 107 as a senior. Williams also had 19.5 career tackles for loss, including 10.5 in 2015, in addition to 10 pass breakups, six forced fumbles in his career, including four last year.
Williams, who missed the 2013 season with a medical redshirt, is has a fiery leadership style and he’s a very intelligent linebacker. He already graduated from Georgia Southern with a Psychology degree. With the Bucs signing Daryl Smith to a one-year deal, Williams, who is similarly built, would be a great understudy.
Previous Pick: Stony Brook DE Victor Ochi
ROUND 6 (197 from Washington) – Purdue CB Anthony Brown – 5-11, 192 – Senior
Tampa Bay finishes the draft with Brown, another fast cornerback, who was timed at 4.33 in the 40-yard dash with a 1.55 10-yard split at the NFL Scouting Combine, and also impressed with 19 reps of 225 pounds in the bench press. Brown is an ultra-aggressive defender with 19 pass breakups and four interceptions in his career with all four picks coming as a senior. Brown, who hails from Tampa, Fla., was a one-man-gang against Nebraska with a career-high three interceptions in a 55-45 win.
The hard-hitting Brown was a sure tackler with 189 career tackles, including 114 over the past two years. He was also a special teams demon at Purdue as a gunner on punt coverage, and he blocked a kick against Wisconsin, which boosts his value as a Day 3 pick.
Brown has great hand-eye coordination and an above-average sense of timing, but he does have some things he has to work on at the next level. He was charged with giving up 17 touchdowns over the last three years and was flagged with six pass interference penalties last year, according to NFL.com. But with a great size-speed ratio and physical toughness, Brown has the skill set that Hoke and defensive backs coach Brett Maxie could develop. (Warning: the following highlight video contains profanity)
Previous Pick: Ohio State FS Tyvis Powell
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I like the top 3 picks. Braxton is something serious when that ball is in his hand. If he continues to work on his craft as a WR, I think he could be a steal. Imagine Miller as our Kick and/or Punt Returner….And Vonn Bell, I personally have only heard minor chirps of him and what round he’ll go in, but that can work well for us.
An ideal draft in the case we make the trades projected in the article
First round – No. 15 -Rankins
Second round – No. 39 =V.Bell/W.Jackson
Second round – No. 45 (from Rams) -Ogbah/Spence/Correa
Third round – No. 74 -Miller
Fifth round – No. 148
Sixth round – No. 197
I’d feel like Christmas came early.
Well scox17-I look at the location are and how many points are.Lets say those topplayers are not available at #9 and rams trade up to bucs #9 slots Tampa gets La Rams #15 and gets Rams Rd#3 pick at 210 pts. and La would have to get like their #4( 74 pts) then Tampa gets LA future 6rd. Then Tampa trades Qb Mike Glennon for Jets 2nd Rd pick. Then here is what tampa would have#15,#39,51(nyj)#74,#76(LA0#108,#110(la,Rd-148,#183 Å).Thats’s means We get a top ranked CB/DL with #15, We get our safety and the WR plus 7 other picks.Can we get good in a hurray-Go Bucs
I like it! Now from now until draft day I’m going to sit, waiting with my fingers crossed that something like this happens.
Scox I agree with your scenario.
Rankins has comparisons and similar numbers to atkins but didn’t atkins get drafted in the 4th round? That’s a loooong ways from number 9! Also, i liked the Bronson kid out of byu, any reason why you changed it up? Don’t get me wrong, i love the idea of us getting another DT, just in comparison to Atkins it would just seem like not just a reach, but an inspector gadget go go gadget arm reach at number 9! I have faith in our drafting abilities, which feels good to finally say that! Go bucs! So excited for next year!
Somewhere in here we need to pick up a OL tackle or even a center. I agree with scox…..first 3 work for me.
I’m fine with all these picks except the 3rd round pick. I’m not a fan of any of the WR’s in this draft class, but spending a high 3rd round pick on a guy that is still learning the position given our many needs is a bad idea.
Pink-with all due respect you and horse are nuts on Miller. He can do so many things. Think of this, he can run the wildcat, he is a great running back, he adds elite speed, he can play the slot, he can throw the ball, he has GREAT moves, can make people miss and is an ELITE weapon. He is easily worth a high 2nd round pick. I’ll be surprised if he lasts past the middle of round 2. IF we can pick him up in third or even second we are not to do so. no disrespect intended but you guys are jus wrong on this one.
Mock Draft Strategy (my last mock, painful, fruitless effort with no redeeming value. Lol)
The Rams are QB needy and have 2 2nd round picks. They are not going to take the chance of losing Paxton Lynch, the last QB left on the board, with Denver in the wings. Attempt to trade down and pick up another 2nd round pick. If the Bucs trade with the Rams, they would pick 15. QB Mike Glennon will be traded for a 3rd round pick. I admit that this is all pure conjecture. This draft is most difficult to mock because we have so many needs mitigated by the players signed in free agency. But I gave it my best shot driven primarily by players visiting or worked out by the Bucs. I have no sources! For what it’s worth my dog Phred says he likes it! Lol.
RD1 DT Robert Nkemdiche/Ole Miss 6-3, 295, 4.86
RD2 DE Noah Spence/Eastern Kentucky 6-2, 251, 4.79
RD2 FS Karl Joseph/WVU 5-10, 205, 4.57
RD3 CB Xavien Howard/Baylor 6-0, 201, 4.58
RD3 OLB/SS Su’a Cravens/USC 6-1, 225, 4.56
RD4 OT Joe Haeg/North Dakota State 6-6, 304, 5.15
RD5 WR Cody Core/Ole Miss 6-3, 205, 4.37
RD6 CB Ryan Smith/North Carolina Central 5-11, 189, 4.47
RD6 FB Will Ratelle/North Dakota 5-10, 251, 4.57
Don’t write Noah Spence off just yet! And given all the talk of his off field problems and his less than anticipated combine and pro day 40 times, the Bucs are still interested enough to have him come to OBP this week for an extensive private visit. Like Winston, they have spent a considerable amount of time doing due diligence! Spence’s skill set as a pass rusher is clear, as he’s one of the best edge players in a weak class at that spot. The question is whether teams will trust him enough to pick him in the first round, or if he’ll have to wait until Day 2 (Rounds 2-3) before hearing his name called.
We missed out on the Honey Badger, Tyrann Mathieu, but we have a shot at another small package of dynamite in Karl “Hitman” Joseph. This little guy is all guts all the time. Excellent cover skills and can bang with the best of them. Football is entertainment and I would love to see Joseph’s tenacity in pewter and red!
Carson Wentz is not the only Bison on NFL scouts’ radar this year. Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State’s lean, athletic frame (6-6, 304) helped him become a four-year starter for NDSU, the first two years on the right side and his final two as an All-American left tackle. Teams will want him to get a little stronger as a rookie, but the agility he showed blocking on the move on film was confirmed in Indianapolis as he put up a great showing in the jumps and short shuttles. Backing up Donovan Smith will allow Pamphile to swing inside to back up OG J.R. Sweezy. For the record – I’m not at all comfortable with the Sweezy signing!
Every year, at least one or two corners from a non-FBS team make it into the top four or five rounds of the draft like Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina in the 5th round. This year that player could be Ryan Smith, CB, North Carolina Central. Smith’s athleticism, closing speed and ball skills (seven interceptions, 24 pass breakups as a four-year starter) caught the eye of scouts. The ability Smith displayed as a kickoff returner in his senior year only increases his value to the Bucs.
I like this one better than most. I don’t think Xavien Howard will make it to the 3rd round though.
How’s mine sound?
RD1 Kevin Dodd DE Clemson
RD2 Xavien Howard CB Baylor
RD3 Sean Davis FS/CB Maryland
RD4 Keyarris Garrett WR Tulsa
RD5 Robert Aguayo K FSU (If available Alex Lewis OT Nebraska if not)
RD6 Victor Ochi DE Stony Brook
RD6 Tyvis Powell FS Ohio State or Ryan Smith CB NCC
RD 1 is assuming Bosa, Ramsey, and Buckner are all off the board. I think Hargreaves is too short in our division, Spence and Lawson are 3rd Round talent at best
I like yours too! Of course I haven’t seen many I didn’t like we have so many needs. You’re right about CB Howard. He is a 2nd round pick, but it was him or Karl Joseph who I really like. Really just having fun, no real expectations! If we use a dart board we are going to get some good players IMO!lol.
Still like Hargreaves with in the first. I love the Vonn Bell & Brax picks… I wonder if Aguayo would be considered if he was there in the middle of the third? If the Bucs didn’t get Bell in the 2nd, I wonder if Deon Bush would be a consideration. I thought he was pretty effective in a terrible UM defensive scheme. Maybe a Scooby Wright in the later rounds?
So its a deep draft for DT’s and we feel the need to grab one at #9? I wish I could make a wager with PR about the Bucs Draft, so when the Bucs don’t draft Rankins which they won’t don’t go bumping your chests cause you mentioned one of the other 20 other possibilities they could draft at #9. I don’t know who they will draft but I can tell you its either one of these 3 positions that follow 1. corner 2. DE 3. safety. Hate on Hargreaves all you want and all this short stature player you talk about didn’t we just sign Grimes? have the likes of Donnie Abraham and Ronde Barber on this team and how tall are corners Matheiu, Jason Verrete, Joe Hayden, Asante Samuel, Darrel Green, I can go on and on with corners under 6’0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx6_oAAqGYI this is why Hargreaves at #9 wouldn’t be wise. Why does nobody talk about how deep the draft is with DBs? We should probably focus on pass rush early because it’s not as deep and grab starting CBs and Safeties later. With enough time Jones/Benjamin/Funchess will burn any CB we throw at them
It would be fun to see PR hold a draft contest for their fans? Whoever picks the most players that end up on the team as Bucs picks… Tiebreaker could be predicting the most correct picks in the top 10? Winner gets free PR & Bucs swag…
What’s funny to me is how all of the “experts” echo each others’ top ten predictions, yet at the end of the first few hours of the Draft they will have gotten no more than half (5) to the correct team….. and it gets worse after that. Most I ever guessed to the correct team in the first round was nine. Mel Kiper, Mike Mayock and the other media GM’s will probably forecast no more than ten.
I used to waste my time trying to decide who the Bucs should draft in each round even back when there were 12 rounds. What I learned was that I was better off just waiting until it was over. Getting into a woulda, coulda, shoulda debate with myself was pointless. After we chose Hugh Green over Ronnie Lott, as I screamed at the TV, I realized my opinion wouldn’t affect the choice. Fun, but I now just let the others make the Mock Drafts adnauseam.
I’ve never got more than 2 right and they weren’t in the right round. lol. If the Bucs were to release a mock the day before the draft they would get some wrong because they have no control over who picks in front of them. So I hope everybody that does it is just having fun!
Damn… 9? Impressive… My wheels usually fall off pretty quick at the top of the draft. I had my Hugh Green- Lott moment with Barron-Kuechly. I literally whipped off my Bucs t-shirt and threw it against the wall. Yeah, probably good advice to just let it happen…
SR Get write up on Bell….but your facts are wrong. Clemson beat Ohio State in that game Tajh Boyd threw for 378 yards and Sammy Watkins had 16 catches for 227 yards. So it may not be an example of one of his best games.
I’m thinking more and more that Rankins might be the pic, but I’m still for trading down. I like the first two picks in this mock, definitely not a fan of the 3rd round pick of Braxton Miller. Projects shouldn’t be taken in the third. You get starters and good depth in the 3rd.
I do see Licht making a couple of moves this draft. I like that a lot about him. It’s keeps us guessing.
Don’t let PR brain wash you, next you will be saying Stocker is a good TE, ha
With Spence and Melton you really think Shelton is a need much less Shelton a #9 player in draft? I mean is there really a difference between he and Sheldon Day of Notre Dame?
Well you can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it from a prospective of, if and WHEN Mccoy gets hurt, Melton and Spence are your starting tackles. DO you really like that? I don’t.
I’m for trading back personally , but I can see the justification for Rankins.
DT Henry Melton was not re-signed. Still a free agent.
Good point Mac which only strengthens the need for one.
Hargreaves should be the pick.
I’d rather pick up 1 starter than 4 fillers…and the stats are very clear on how you improve your chance of getting a starter…the probability goes down with every pick made in the draft. Trade up and get a starting Safety or starting DE, or stay put and take VHIII…trading down so that we can an extra 2 or 3 round pick is not what we need…we need a difference maker…go get Bosa or Ramsey and we’re instantly better – Licht can still play the lottery in the later rounds and maybe he’ll win again (e.g, Alexander), but I wouldn’t count on finding more 4th round starters as plan A.
I think that @no.9 we will see but comes Tampa way.What Happen Fans if that OT is available at no#9.I say take it, and then see what happens in Rd-2.I see Mike Glennon be gone by 2 or 3rd rd.Lets see what happen. I will be watching those three days.
Like PR did I would like either a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a wide receiver. Other than that all defense
1. Winston may have a high Football IQ but he does not have a GM IQ. It does not matter how much salary he wants to give up that does not help the Bucs move up the draft board.
2. We cannot move up to get Ramsey. He will go in the top 3. You have to look at pick value. The #1 pick is worth 3000 points, #2 2600, #3 2200. If you gave up ALL the BUCs picks they total 2221.
3. The best thing for the Bucs to do is trade down if they want a defensive player. After Ramsey, Jack, Bosa (they will be gone), there is very little difference in a pretty large group of defensive players (especially linemen).
4. Based on the 2015 draft, either Licht is a good drafter or the Bucs staff did a great job of coaching or both to get 4 starters. So I have to trust they can do it again in 2016.
5. Lastly, if the Bucs picked Stanley with the #9, I would understand completely. Because keeping Winston healthy should be priority 1. Also if Dirk wants to stretch the field he better upgrade the OL and get faster WRs.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m perfectly happy to stay put and take VHIII because I think he is a difference maker too – but after him I think the slope drops off quickly (the stats start going down very fast on average too). I think trading down is the mistake, and I would rather we traded up and stayed in that higher probability of success range – and yes it would cost a lot to get in the top 3 but we probably are looking more like top 5…still would cost of course but we have more than just this year’s draft to trade with (e.g., next year’s draft, Mike Glennon)…and teams trade up all the time….why not us…but again I’m more than happy with VHIII at 9.
And for what it’s worth, here’s how I see it unfolding:
1) Tenn takes Tunsil
2) Clev or a trade and the pick is Wentz
3) Chargers trade out and the pick is Jack (a team trading up is looking for a play maker in the front 7 and having watched this kid he has a huge ceiling)
Then I think we’re looking at Ramsey, Bosa and Buckner in some order with another trade by a team trying to get in front of Phily (or by Phily moving up to block said other team) and picking Goff..so I see those 4 players going in really any order, and hence I’m not convinced Ramsey (as a safety) is a top 3 pick, despite his obvious talent….
I think one of Ramsey or Bosa could be available at say 7 and hence the Bucs may only need to move up two spots….maybe 🙂
At 9, if we stay, It has to be VH3 or Stanley. That is it. And if both of them are gone, that probably means a Ramsey or a Bosa improbably fell.
I would take Bosa or Ramsey over Hargraves anytime. I just saw too many Florida games and the guy would get beat short, middle, long. He’s a 3rd or 4th rounder; just my opinion. He’s not Revis or Barber. Why take someone so short at spot 9?
Braxton Miller really, oft injured experiment in the 3rd. Don’t think Licht is going to dice roll with a high pick. Your original 3rd of LSU LB was spot on, stick to your guns PR
CB James Bradberry is alright; like Anthony Brown better.
Why does Vonn Bell not excite me that much? He seems kind of average to me; his stats seem to bare that out. Killebrow brings more to the table than Bell. Vonn Bell is my least favorite safety in the draft! . . . the most interesting thing I’ve heard about Vonn Bell is he doesn’t get out of position; maybe that’s why he doesn’t get that much stats; no, that doesn’t make any sense!
Well, I guess Vonn’s stats are comparable; except that Sean Davis has the best stats of the top guys; i’m finding it hard to find career stats on these players; so, i’m stopping. I also like Davis’s highlights better than Vonn Bell’s.
Davis is the pick for sure. Not to mention he’s a late 2nd early 3rd pick
1. Elliott RB
2. Fuller WR
3. Cravins SS
4. Judon DE
1. LB Myles Jack or DE Joey Bosa
2. DL Robert Nkemdiche
3. CB Artie Burns
4. S Vonn Bell
4. K Robert Aguayo
I think Bosa or Jack could slept 9. I also think Ole Miss DT Nkemdiche will slip to the second round. How can they pass him there? Maybe they take Shawn Oakman instead. Lastly, I think the Bucs find a way to get back in the 4th round to take the FSU kicker.
*slip to and not slept – spellcheck!!
Looks like another great mock from PR. I hate this time of year, sitting and impatiently waiting for the draft! Can we speed this up? lol. Licht and company have 2 good drafts under their belts and I’m looking forward to the third.
This would be my 3 Round Mock Draft for the Bucs. Round 1 – Noah Spence, Round 2 – Vonn Bell, Round 3 – Braxton Miller. And more DE help later in the draft, like Ochi. This is only my opinion and I think these would be the best possible choices. A player like Spence does not come along very often. Sure there is a chance that he could be a Jadaveon Clowney who was supposed to be one of the greatest players available, which has not come to fruition because of injuries but he could also be a JJ Watt. It is purely a crapshoot. But I have seen the Bucs Pass on other great Defensive players. An example would be the 2011 draft when they passed on Muhammad Wilkerson, Cameron Jordan and Cam Heyward to take Adrian Clayborn or 2012 when they passed on Luke Kuechly, Dontari Poe, Bruce Irvin, Quinton Coples and Fletcher Cox to take Mark Barron. They always seem to have a knack of making the wrong decisions. Hopefully with Licht as GM, a new Head Coach and a really good DC in Smith they will make the right decision and take Noah Spence. There is enough good influence and guidance on this team to keep him straight in regard to off field issues, His talent is just too good to pass up. Do not let this one be another Kuechly, PLEASE. One reason I find Licht refreshing is that he is not afraid to take a chance or make trades and changes in the draft.
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