I hope we don't go that direction; however, I think Lovie's defenses put a premium on a multi-dimensional middle LBer who can also make good reads/decisions. Admittedly, he would be a solid pick and could become our defensive qb for years.My wish list is still 1. Clowney 2. Matthews 3. Watkins. I'm also warning up to Robinson.
If we can trade down a few picks and pick up Mosley, I'd be thrilled, but at 7 we need to get our LT of the future or else a stud DE or QB (not Carr).I do agree though that getting a MLB who can cover well would be a huge upgrade to our defense. We could move Foster to SAM. Hopefully we can pick up a fast MLB in Round 2 or 4 or in Free Agency.
Not sure Mosley has the deep speed needed to plat in Lovie's/Frazier defense both coaches had MIKE's that could turn and run to cover the deep middle not sure Mosely has the ability.
Dear God, I hope the team doesn't use a top ten pick on Mosely.
That wouldn't be my pick, but if he's their best available player at that spot (and they can't move down) I wouldn't slit my wrists. I'd like it a lot more than drafting Carr.
He is going to be a good player but I don't think he is worth the #7 pick to us. There is going to be a really good player there and we don't need to go in that direction with it.As for me, AT THIS POINT, I want, 1. Clowney 2. Watkins 3. Bortles 4. Marquise Lee.
Whatever defense Lovie runs will have elements of the Tampa 2 in it, so it's fair to assume we are going to be looking for a LB. Contrary to what Boid is claiming over on the Red Board, we don't need a stud there. We just need someone with range. Nobody is going to confuse Al Singleton or Shelton Quarles with a HOF backer. Yet we were fine with them. My takeaway from the presser was that he was going to get someone with the athleticism and coach him up rather than try and find an already finished product.I think we are either looking at a QB or Matthews at 7. Don't see Clowney moving past ATL, and it's going to be hard convincing anyone from the 3 to 5 spot to move down IMO.
The only QB's in this draft I would use the #7 pick for are Bridgewater and Bortles. IMO, no other QB is worth that high a pick. As to Mathews, he will be an outstanding OT in the NFL but I think Robinson will be better.But then, what do I know.....
The only QB's in this draft I would use the #7 pick for are Bridgewater and Bortles. IMO, no other QB is worth that high a pick. As to Mathews, he will be an outstanding OT in the NFL but I think Robinson will be better.But then, what do I know.....
The problem with the " no other QB is worth that high a pick" concept is that you go into the draft with the picks you have, not the ones you want. Maybe you can make a trade down, but if you can't, and you want a guy you think is only "worth" a mid first rounder, you spend the pick you have. I'm all about BPA, but QB trumps that. If you think a guy can be the answer, and you think Glennon isn't, then you pull the trigger, whether you "overpay" or not. Because thre really isn't "over drafting" at the QB position like there is at, say, the SS position. A QB is binary. Either he's the answer or he's a bust. If you got the rightplayer, then you never paid too much. If you didn't get the right player, then you always paid too much.
The only QB's in this draft I would use the #7 pick for are Bridgewater and Bortles. IMO, no other QB is worth that high a pick. As to Mathews, he will be an outstanding OT in the NFL but I think Robinson will be better.But then, what do I know.....
The problem with the " no other QB is worth that high a pick" concept is that you go into the draft with the picks you have, not the ones you want. Maybe you can make a trade down, but if you can't, and you want a guy you think is only "worth" a mid first rounder, you spend the pick you have. I'm all about BPA, but QB trumps that. If you think a guy can be the answer, and you think Glennon isn't, then you pull the trigger, whether you "overpay" or not. Because thre really isn't "over drafting" at the QB position like there is at, say, the SS position. A QB is binary. Either he's the answer or he's a bust. If you got the rightplayer, then you never paid too much. If you didn't get the right player, then you always paid too much.
Or one can look it without such insight using the thought one can pick up the same type/quality of quarterback in later rounds.
At 7 if we are not getting a passer, pass blocker or pass rusher then our new GM should be fired. MLB? No, sorry.
I totally agree that we should not be drafting a MLB at 7. If we can trade down to the 12-15 range, then it becomes a possibility, but only if the guy grades out SUBSTANTIALLY higher than any QBs, OTs or DEs on the board.
The only QB's in this draft I would use the #7 pick for are Bridgewater and Bortles. IMO, no other QB is worth that high a pick. As to Mathews, he will be an outstanding OT in the NFL but I think Robinson will be better.But then, what do I know.....
The problem with the " no other QB is worth that high a pick" concept is that you go into the draft with the picks you have, not the ones you want. Maybe you can make a trade down, but if you can't, and you want a guy you think is only "worth" a mid first rounder, you spend the pick you have. I'm all about BPA, but QB trumps that. If you think a guy can be the answer, and you think Glennon isn't, then you pull the trigger, whether you "overpay" or not. Because thre really isn't "over drafting" at the QB position like there is at, say, the SS position. A QB is binary. Either he's the answer or he's a bust. If you got the rightplayer, then you never paid too much. If you didn't get the right player, then you always paid too much.
Or one can look it without such insight using the thought one can pick up the same type/quality of quarterback in later rounds.
I'm not sure whether you're agreeing with me or disagreeing. IMO, If you have a guy you think is a franchise QB --which is what you have to think about a guy if you are drafting him early -- then you don't fuk around, you pull the trigger at 7. This isn't a safety or LB we're talking about. In other positions you can trade back and if the one guy you liked at that spot is gone, you can go with someone with a similar grade or just go to a different position. But not with QB. You either love a particular guy and you draft him or you don't draft one at all in the first round. You don't risk losing a franchise QB if he is on the board when you pick.
For me I would rather draft a player like Christian Jones in the second or third depending on his tape and workouts than to spend a first on Mosley or Mack.
At 7 if we are not getting a passer, pass blocker or pass rusher then our new GM should be fired. MLB? No, sorry.
I'd toss in CB and WR in that group as well, but otherwise I agree. Gotta use premium picks on premium positions.
