Are there actually people here still working under the assumption that the goal is to have meaningful discussion as to how to solve/positively impact the problem? lol
"Put a specific proposal on the table, so the whole forum can finally see exactly what you want on the subject of gun control."You are not quick enough to pin down shifty dancer.
LOL at that nonsense^^^^^, I am probably the only one who has proposed anything in any of these discussions. Breathtaking dishonesty from both of you . . Here's a challenge for you --- find a pro-gun point of view accepting ANY proposal for a restriction on guns without qualification. Can you do it Hell, you (Illuminator) cant even accept that an "assault rifle" has a broader meaning to most in society than your very narrow technical definition..lmao. Even funnier is you could NOT even get yourself to admit that more guns equal more gun violence EVEN WHEN YOU SLIPPED and typed as much. lmao. In this thread, there isn't a single pro-gun point of view courageous enough to acknowledge the obvious - that the gun was the proximate cause of the death. That ^^^^ is the kind of FEAR that makes all you guys hilarious and that make the claim you are repeating here DISHONEST . . a transparent deflection. The strange thing is that you act as if it is not transparent, maybe salve for the conscience . . who knows?This event absolutely obliterates several of the fundamental arguments asserted by many pro-gun perspectives. This event illustrates perfectly that the actual presence of a gun heightens/increases the likelihood of death because guns are DEADLY. No pro gun person here can admit that though, fear prevents it, so no one admits the gun was the proximate cause of the death. This event also illustrates perfectly that the pro-gun argument that gun restriction would leave only the criminals with guns is a dishonest talking point. This shooter became a criminal when he fired the gun, but he walked in the theater as the pro-gun perspective's POSTER CHILD of a citizen alleged reason for having a gun: self-defense. This was no hapless, untrained fool . . this was a former cop well trained in handling a gun, but, as I have said many times, self-defense guns become offensive weapons in crimes of passion. In short, MORE GUNS=MORE GUN VIOLENCE . . . . a simple, undeniable truth . . denied by some out of FEAR
My prediction to Buggsy . . . .looking pretty good so far . . . lol
Escobar, engaging the good counselor is a fool's errand.The appropriate response, I have learned, is to sit back and laugh.
lol ^^^^^^^ #confidencebuilderActually Buggsy if you go find a reasonable adult to help you what he or she will explain to you is that the overwhelming majority of the pro-gun posts in this thread are focused on me and not the issue because there is no response to this:the gun was the proximate cause of the deathIf that ^^^ statement by me was not true, this thread ends pages ago with a simple honest counter, but instead because that statement is the simple undeniable truth ... and the truth hurts ... the only thing a bunch of the pro-gun types have as a response is to deflect the attention from that truth. Any honest and reasonable adult will tell you that is what we are witnessing here Buggsy. The funny thing is your insecurity, in general and on this issue specifically, leads you to post that you are the one sitting back laughing without even realizing the bitter irony. ;)
By the way Buggsy, if you find that adult to help you, he or she will probably tell you that an HONEST response to my post above and the statement that the GUN was the proximate cause of death would be to say:"yes, that is true . . but . . ."However, the same adult would probably tell you that what will likely follow AFTER my comment above will be more of the same . . . more of the previous 16 pages, more comment about me rather than the fact that the GUN was the proximate cause of death . . . . . . .which really only proves my point further
fear is a funny thing
"Put a specific proposal on the table, so the whole forum can finally see exactly what you want on the subject of gun control."And Shifty Dancer pirouettes and spins away...
There's only one person that has peddled fear in any anti-gun thread
