and let's mention that there was no issue with Zimmerman shooting the unarmed black teenager. that was perfectly ok ......... hmmmmmmmmmm
^^^^^ look at the posts between the original post below and this one ....lol
This is the point where the usual pro gun guys will really go off with the nonsense . .. . .lmao, have fun
For every "bad" use of a firearm in self defense, I am pretty confident there is more than 1 legitimate use of a gun in self defense. Therefore I ask you the question, are you willing to see an increase of victims by other kinds of violence just to see a reduction in "gun violence'? Even if it results in more victims than you would have "saved" from gun violence?
"The National Rifle Association maintains a blog called The Armed Citizen, which highlights defensive gun use. The latest entry, from April 9, describes three incidents: Two from 2013 and one archival example from 1969. It’s not hard to see what the NRA’s getting at, but just in case, a sidebar on the site states: “Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that the presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances.” In other words, as Wayne LaPierre put it after Newtown, “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”That’s almost as catchy as “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” The problem is: The 2 million figure — often inflated to 2.5 million in N.R.A. literature — is bogus. Defensive gun use is actually quite rare.A new paper from the Violence Policy Center states that “for the five-year period 2007 through 2011, the total number of self-protective behaviors involving a firearm by victims of attempted or completed violent crimes or property crimes totaled only 338,700.” That comes to an annual average of 67,740 — not nothing, but nowhere near the N.R.A.’s 2 million or 2.5 million.Readers can judge for themselves whether the V.P.C. or the N.R.A. is likely to have better numbers. The V.P.C. used data from the National Crime Victimization Survey, conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. The N.R.A.’s estimate is the result of a telephone survey conducted by a Florida State University criminologist.The V.P.C. also found that in 2010 “there were only 230 justifiable homicides involving a private citizen using a firearm” reported to the F.B.I.’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program. Compare that with the number of criminal gun homicides in the same year: 8,275. (That’s not counting gun suicides or unintentional shootings.) Or compare it with the number of Americans killed by guns since Newtown: 3,458.As the V.P.C. paper states, “guns are rarely used to kill criminals or stop crimes.”
the reason it is so easy to make some of you look so foolish with your own words is that your words defy logic . .. they are dishonest words.. and you post the KNOWING they are dishonest . . . . which explains also why the focus always shifts from the message to the messenger.no one forces anyone to respond to the facts/arguments I post, and yet the same group always return . . . . and always go back to the nonsense . . . . if you were in the right, if your argument was based on logic and not fear . . .not only would you not focus on the messenger, you wouldn't even care what the messenger has to say . ... but you do care because it is the TRUTH and you are afraid of it.we have a ridiculous level of gun violence in this country and a ridiculous number of guns . . .. individual fear is played upon and packaged by the NRA for the benefit of its TRUE constituents: gun sellers. many of you guys (not all) are unfortunately pawns in that system.
