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The "pro gun" guys have used and abused the psycho anti-gun "crowd" on the facts for over a year now.  Of course this is referred to as "nonsense" Biggs' above post sums the anti-gun position nicely.  It would only better if it included delusional as well

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The problem is: The 2 million figure — often inflated to 2.5 million in N.R.A. literature — is bogus. Defensive gun use is actually quite rare.A new paper from the Violence Policy Center states that “for the five-year period 2007 through 2011, the total number of self-protective behaviors involving a firearm by victims of attempted or completed violent crimes or property crimes totaled only 338,700.” That comes to an annual average of 67,740 — not nothing, but nowhere near the N.R.A.’s 2 million or 2.5 million.

Let's say you are right, that's still 6 x the number of people killed with a firearm. So for every victim you "save" by getting rid of firearms, you create 6.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POXZ_tJkiyw

Poor Buggsy doesnt even try to defend a position anymore. I think it might have been the "you dont need a license to buy beer" mistake that has him scared

the reason it is so easy to make some of you look so foolish with your own words is that your words defy logic . .. they are dishonest words..  and you post the KNOWING they are dishonest . . . . which explains also why the focus always shifts from the message to the messenger.no one forces anyone to respond to the facts/arguments I post, and yet the same group always return . . . . and always go back to the nonsense . . . . if you were in the right, if your argument was based on logic and not fear . . .not only would you not focus on the messenger, you wouldn't even care what the messenger has to say . ...  but you do care because it is the TRUTH and you are afraid of it.we have a ridiculous level of gun violence in this country and a ridiculous number of guns . . ..  individual fear is played upon and packaged by the NRA for the benefit of its TRUE constituents: gun sellers.  many of you guys (not all) are unfortunately pawns in that system.

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The problem is: The 2 million figure — often inflated to 2.5 million in N.R.A. literature — is bogus. Defensive gun use is actually quite rare.A new paper from the Violence Policy Center states that “for the five-year period 2007 through 2011, the total number of self-protective behaviors involving a firearm by victims of attempted or completed violent crimes or property crimes totaled only 338,700.” That comes to an annual average of 67,740 — not nothing, but nowhere near the N.R.A.’s 2 million or 2.5 million.

Let's say you are right, that's still 6 x the number of people killed with a firearm. So for every victim you "save" by getting rid of firearms, you create 6.

note that it say property crime too, read further down, but here's the larger point:a 71 year old former cop has a CWP presumably for "self defense."  There should be no REASONABLE reason to think you need a gun for defense in a suburban movie theater at an afternoon movie. 

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/history-of-violence-in-movie-theaters-dark-knight-rises-353769 a man complained about a woman in the theater who was talking on her cell phone. The woman left with two men, one of whom returned minutes later and stabbed the complainer in the neck with a meat thermometer

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