we do that primarily so a small industry can profitthink about how stupid that is
It's true! A recent survey indicates that the majority of people who buy firearms do so primarily so the company can profit:"Why did you purchase a firearm?"0.2% As an investment0.3% Support my Second Amendment rights0.5% Hunting and gaming0.7% To protect my home and family1.1% Combination of the above factors97.2% My primary concern is for firearm manufacturers to profit.Every word of it absolutely true.
We have a violence problem, not a tool problem.
we have a violence problem and the way we choose to deal with it is by offering essentially unfettered access to the most effective "tool" for death . . . and we do that primarily so a small industry can profitthink about how stupid that is
Stupid is taking some reasonable arguments you are making and turning it into some dumb level of quasi-conspiracy to make money. The USA has a long, long tradition of gun ownership. Hell with things like the minutemen and people like Davy Crocket and Audie Murphy to is part of our national myth. It is something that is, piddle with technical details,enshrined in the founding document of the USA. This isn't about money and I've never heard anyone make the argument that, "gosh guns should be legal so Colt Arms can make a buck" -- and here you can insert your conspiratorial thinking about how people just think it isn't about money.
Dal, so I guess you are acknowledging that you agree its stupid to have a culture of violence and almost unfettered access to guns, so that's good. But, I never said there was any conspiracy. I just said -- and have said many times (and, my goodness, there is plenty of proof )- that the NRA is a lobbying organization that represents MANUFACTURERS not the 2nd Amendment and not gun owners. If you want to disagree on that, fair enough but . ."Joining calls for Congress to require background checks before all gun purchases, Austin Mayor Lee Leffingwell says Americans widely back the prospect. Ninety percent of Americans and 74 percent of National Rifle Association members support universal background checks, Leffingwell said, the Austin American-Statesman reported in a news article posted online the day he spoke, March 28, 2013."Many of those NRA members are part of that "national myth" and yet they agree . . . . their "leader" does not. This is Wayne (i.e., the NRA): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/wayne-lapierre-background-checks_n_2582148.html I will cut to the chase for you, Wayne does not agree and its not because of the "national myth" . . . it is because he does not represent those 74% of members, he represents the gun industry . . he is a LOBBYIST for the gun industrythat's not a conspiracy . . its just a fact
we do that primarily so a small industry can profitthink about how stupid that is
It's true! A recent survey indicates that the majority of people who buy firearms do so primarily so the company can profit:"Why did you purchase a firearm?"0.2% As an investment0.3% Support my Second Amendment rights0.5% Hunting and gaming0.7% To protect my home and family1.1% Combination of the above factors97.2% My primary concern is for firearm manufacturers to profit.Every word of it absolutely true.
its alos true that strawmans are a sign of intellectual surrender
Your premise of manufacturer's profit margins being the primary concern of anyone other than the manufacturers themselves warranted no more than ridicule. People don't purchase firearms because they want the manufacturer to make a buck. Control freaks can't seem to grasp that demand drives the equation, not supply. Address the issues that drive demand or you're just spinning your tires while going nowhere.
Your premise of manufacturer's profit margins being the primary concern of anyone other than the manufacturers themselves warranted no more than ridicule.
link?my point is and was that the legislation is driven by a lobby that protects manufacturer's profits, how did that become people buy guns so manufacturers profit? EDIT: I see now, you selectuvely edited the comment so you could make your strawman . .lol .. . here's the full comment:
We have a violence problem, not a tool problem.
we have a violence problem and the way we choose to deal with it is by offering essentially unfettered access to the most effective "tool" for death . . . and we do that primarily so a small industry can profitthink about how stupid that is
With the full context (i.e., without your selctive editing) . . . .who is "we" and who used "we"? Let me help you along by chnaging Da'ls referenceDal: The United States has a violence problem, not a tool problemVin: The United Stes has a violence problem and the way the United States (government) choose to deal with it is by offering essentially unfettered access to the most effective "tool" for death . . . and the United States (government) does that primarily so a small industry can profitIf you looked, you would see that Dal took issue with the notion that the NRA's misison is profits.By the way, is this kind of nonsense the reason you got banned again?
